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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:59 pm

NovU wrote:Question is where do you place the Nets? And what is your measurement when it comes to considering one a serious contender?


i put miami and the pacers above them right now. whoever comes out of the east will be the nba champions this year
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:18 pm

Why would you put Nets over Knicks?

If Melo has another monster season or just near monster season, Nets have no chance. And Pierce is no game changer. It mostly depends on KG and DWil.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:42 am

The Knicks lack size, defense and health plus they got Bargnani...
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:54 am

And also because we respect the Nets around here.

Sauru wrote:i put miami and the pacers above them right now. whoever comes out of the east will be the nba champions this year

How about the Bulls? Corpse of the Bulls led by Nate Robinson were better than fully healthy Nets in the playoffs. Will addition of KG/PP/AK/JET outclass the healthy Bulls with former MVP back in the line up?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:03 am

http://nets.com

No edits or anything. That url is as is.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Pdub on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:08 am

shadowgrin wrote:http://nets.com

No edits or anything. That url is as is.


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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:40 am

Source: LBJ

LeBron James in an interview with ESPN's Brian Windhorst says he's impressed with the moves the Nets made this off-season bringing in Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Jason Terry and new coach Jason Kidd.

"They brought three champions to their team and they brought in a championship coach. They're going to be good," James said. "Chemistry is always the issue when you bring new guys to a new team but those guys have sacrificed before so I don't think it'll be a problem for them. I think it's great for the league."


.. when you're playing Evans+Crash(3v5 on offense) for more than 50 mins! that will eventually backfire on you. PJC was clearly out-smarted by Coach Thibs(they were zoning on dwill/JJ/brook letting crash/evans open and that was very very effective. PJC countered by playing them 300 million min together, smh), even Steve Kerr was saying that the floor spacing was awful. Boozer was just shooting lay-ups from mid range against a 6'7 Evans in front of his nose, not to mention those bone headed plays where he mimic magic johnson on a fast break and those 3 sec violations in w/c he led the league last season. Tho I love Reg's effort on the glass, he's clearly not a starter.

And.. that was the idea about the "deepening the bench". KG and PP's stats last season is almost the same the year before, but they were clearly exposed and gassed during the PO vs the Knicks. They were the main options on defense and offense!. So by adding AK/Anderson w/ Blatche/JET/Livingston/Plumber they can have fresher legs for the PO w/c is more important. People also tend to forget that were also "big" in all of the positions, and versatile. PP is not a game changer?ask LBJ. Tho I agree that anything but the Finals is a failure, I can still see that the mngmt wont stop in bringing this franchise up.

About that url, that was never a nets site(even the NJ years). Proko wanted to buy that url years ago from a networking company but both sides couldn't reach an agreement, so the owner directed that to other NBA team.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:13 pm

graybakflip wrote:About that url, that was never a nets site(even the NJ years). Proko wanted to buy that url years ago from a networking company but both sides couldn't reach an agreement, so the owner directed that to other NBA team.

Seems like throwing money around doesn't solve everything.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:51 pm

SoF'nAwesome wrote:Why would you put Nets over Knicks?

If Melo has another monster season or just near monster season, Nets have no chance. And Pierce is no game changer. It mostly depends on KG and DWil.


i would say the knicks have no chance. they need much more than melo to even consider doing anything. pierce does not have to be a game changer in NJ, he is no longer going to be the go to option but he is a player you are forced to stay home on. this line up makes it very hard for teams to double off


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Sauru wrote:i put miami and the pacers above them right now. whoever comes out of the east will be the nba champions this year

How about the Bulls? Corpse of the Bulls led by Nate Robinson were better than fully healthy Nets in the playoffs. Will addition of KG/PP/AK/JET outclass the healthy Bulls with former MVP back in the line up?



i am holding off all judgement on the bulls until i see rose play again. not sure where his head is at after such a long break from the game. if rose plays like his old self then the bulls have to be considered. we will see
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:25 pm

Omg Sauru still riding Pierce wheelchair. I'm done.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:04 am

Size, Rose or Pierce-- not big issues. Melo, Tyson Chandler & J.R. Smith. And if Stoudamire is playing teeny bit well along all that, Knicks are certainly making some noise.

Also, they have Bargnani & World Piece of Shit.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:15 pm

Stoudamire's best years lay behind him. I doubt that he'll ever have a productive year again...
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:28 am

Watching the Nets training camp on NBA TV, looks like the coaching of Kidd and Frank will be similar to how Mike Brown and John Kuester share coaching duties.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:42 pm

Congratulations captain Kidd!, glad to have you back. The reason why I became a Net Fan, happy the team retired your jersey.. (Y)


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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:23 pm

He's too old and washed up, but the truth hurts!
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:53 pm

I was expecting a larger narrative than that on today's victory from you. :lol: BTW final score shouldn't fool anybody, the Nets won this game in a convincing manner otherwise for ridiculous desperate 3s in the end.

Anyways, tonight's game pretty much confirmed why I like Nets' chance at beating the Heat in 7 game series. Size, Size, Size, and depth to bully Heat's small ball. Kirilenko wasn't fully healthy nor Deron was 100% but still the Nets won convincingly against nearly full strength Heat with Wade playing well. I really hate having to rely on fake bigs like Bosh and Haslem against 7 footer-duo like KG and Lopez. And Pierce, JJ, Kirilenko all have pretty good length to bother Wade and Bron. Mismatch all over the place.

I wish now the Heat didn't pick up Oden or Beasley during offseason though I was somewhat excited for Oden. Instead, we should have gone for Faverani. :oops:
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:10 pm

People were calling Paul Pierce washed up?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Jackal on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:25 pm

Duh. Get with the "world against Brooklyn" mentality. Even if it's created in their own fans minds just so they can say "see? Ya'll said we washed up but the truth hurts."

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Stress Fracture on Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:52 am

Just a bad pun, maybe.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:17 am

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:39 am

it kinda stings to see pierce wearing black but it is nice to see him in good shape and playing well.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:00 pm

Grats to the best point guard ever for his coaching debut! Loss by 21 isn't too bad! I mean it could have been worse like loss by 22!
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:14 pm

Andrew wrote:People were calling Paul Pierce washed up?


yep and I don't know why, even Bron said(last year interview I think) that if he could give a rival player it's PP.

NovU wrote:Grats to the best point guard ever for his coaching debut! Loss by 21 isn't too bad! I mean it could have been worse like loss by 22!


agreed not to disagree, very luck-luster performance from the whole team, and Blatche is now retracting to be the player that was amnestied by the Wiz, he's a big part of the rotation he needs to get himself back on track. DWill should blossom but still no show from him. Instead the young guns and the bench should do the lifting for PP and KG, it's still the seasoned guys are doing it. Still an early season but it shouldn't be a 20+ blow out win against a rookie-led team, no effort hate that..

Sauru wrote:it kinda stings to see pierce wearing black but it is nice to see him in good shape and playing well.

he's really in great shape and loving his leadership and efficiency..
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:18 pm

Was it an extremely vocal minority saying that? I would've thought that the common opinion would be that he's past his prime - which he is - but still a very good player and capable of contributing, albeit not in the starring role he once had. I'd suggest that anyone who was saying that he's washed up didn't need to be disproved, as their take wasn't worth validating in the first place.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:28 pm

i heard many people say that both pierce and garnett needed to just retire. every time i heard a person say that i knew that they were clueless about the game. its like people think the second your game degrades a bit from old age you need to just retire. both of these players are very capable starters
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:17 pm

:oops: I don't know why I feel so guilty.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:54 pm

Sauru wrote:i heard many people say that both pierce and garnett needed to just retire. every time i heard a person say that i knew that they were clueless about the game. its like people think the second your game degrades a bit from old age you need to just retire. both of these players are very capable starters

It's not like Pierce's 'old man at the gym' game is dependent on athleticism like Wade or LeBron.
Wade sucks now, just waiting for LeBron to get old.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Keep waiting.

"Capable starters" is as far I would label them. Nothing more, maybe less at times.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:40 pm

shadowgrin wrote:Wade sucks now,

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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:11 am

SoF'nAwesome wrote:Keep waiting.

"Capable starters" is as far I would label them. Nothing more, maybe less at times.



which is why i think its stupid when people talk like they should just retire. if you are good enough to start in the league why should you retire? cause you used to be better? its such a stupid argument. drives me crazy
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:25 pm

It's the false dichotomy that fanatics love, especially on the Internet. Something is either great, or it's terrible and needs to go away/just give up/has no value/shouldn't be made.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:45 pm

NO! There must always be a winner in a trade.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:00 pm

Wow, just wow. So Prok spent billions and still can't beat the team that's well under the cap. Way to go Prok, way to go.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Stress Fracture on Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:26 pm

What is the Greatest PG Ever doing?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby _Steve_ on Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:28 pm

Trying to get fired.
How long untill George Karl takes over?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:08 pm

Watched the last quarter of that game and the Nets execution of their offense looked confusing and terrible. It's like they're doing stuff for the sake that something might happen instead of making it happen.
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Postby _Steve_ on Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:17 pm

There's either no game plan, no chemistry or both...
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Postby NovU on Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:05 pm

First 3 quarters were actually not any prettier. Starters were just utter mess. I don't even know where to start. It was actually the bench that kept the game close. No, Pierce and Garnett looked their age. Paul George had his ways with Pierce. Garnett was nowhere to be seen, kept getting outplayed by Hibbert and West. Brook Lopez is just... you know you've seen him against Noah. He wasn't that better tonight. Deron is Deron, he comes and goes. Joe Johnson was effective but not a game changer. Boring typical criticizing narrative that people have been saying applied to tonight's game.

On a positive note, I saw potential how Kirilenko could have affected the game if was healthy. He probably could have kept Paul George in check better. Paul Pierce kept losing him, allowing him easy shots after another.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:45 pm

to be fair the season just started
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby benji on Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:17 pm

SteveHTOWN wrote:Trying to get fired.
How long untill George Karl takes over?

No Karl or Stan Van Gundy.

$60 million over two years for Phil Jackson. (Who will never waste his time on the Knicks.)

Then they bring in Kobe next year. (GASP, maybe even this year? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=osuw297, http://i.imgur.com/POsoZUQ.png)
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Postby Menopauss on Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:08 am

Would Brooklyn become the oldest team ever if that trade happened ?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:01 pm

6/7 games so far it's been disappointing. DWill and AK(didn't travell w/ the team for the WC trip) are still not that fully healthy, KG's still adjusting playing(PF) alongside w/ BLo and his minutes restriction. But we all know KG's shot will eventually drop(he's been missing his shots that he usually makes). About Coach Kidd's rotations, it's not that good, he needs to develop consistent minutes for his starters and his bench guys. He's still a rookie coach but I know he'll do a better job than Avery's "Iso Raggie/Iso Daren/Iso Stackhouse" or PJC's "Bromance w/ Reggie Evans' 100 mins per game". Might be chemistry still not that fully developed yet, or it's just KG and PP are waay too old and should retire now ASAP!, or DWill will request Proky to hire Sloan+Pjax on the coaching staff or Brook Lopez will now retire and just collect all of the DC/Marvel Comics for the rest of his life, still it's not time to panic yet.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:24 pm

Pierce is still effective.
That's what happens when your 'star' PG sucks.
Made me appreciate Rondo more. Sure he's surrounded by HOFs when KG and Pierce were in Boston like his critics say but Rondo knows how to direct an offense unlike the coach killer who has Lopez, KG, Pierce, and Johnson.
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Postby Stress Fracture on Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:48 am

graybakflip wrote:DWill will request Proky to hire Sloan+Pjax on the coaching staff


Have you already forgotten what Deron did to Sloan back in Salt Lake City?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby graybakflip on Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:13 am

shadowgrin wrote:Pierce is still effective.
That's what happens when your 'star' PG sucks.
Made me appreciate Rondo more. Sure he's surrounded by HOFs when KG and Pierce were in Boston like his critics say but Rondo knows how to direct an offense unlike the coach killer who has Lopez, KG, Pierce, and Johnson.


Agreed, Shaun Livingston has actually played better than him in most of the games so far. Tho that team was built on defense, Rondo was really spot on on creating shots for his teammates esp. w/ the Celtics BIG 3. It sucks that of all the players I've expect to excel the most, it's DWill that's been disappointing so far. He's been preparing during the off season, from changing his diet to getting trimmed down and also host a "mini" camp before the training camp started.

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Have you already forgotten what Deron did to Sloan back in Salt Lake City?


Yep, just like what the "killer-eye" did to Mike Brown last year. Actually Sloan was considered as one of the top candidates for HC during the offseason(hes open in coaching deron again, Dwill's feeling mutual too), along w/ Shaw, Pjax, J.VanGudy, Hollins but BK "hand-picked" JKidd.
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:48 am

graybakflip wrote:Yep, just like what the "killer-eye" did to Mike Brown last year.

Kobe has more championships than Mike Brown and even Deron Williams combined.
Now how many championships do Deron Williams have compared to Kobe or even Finals appearances compared to Sloan?
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Sauru on Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:21 pm

if the nets want to win then williams is going to need to start playing. show some heart. be the fucking man you are paid to be. as far as i am concerned the only thing he has ever accomplished is running one of the best coaches ever out of the league
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:41 pm

Kinda like driving Ray out of town, then drives Doc so crazy that he don't want no coach Boston. BoOm!
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby Menopauss on Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:07 pm

It's just funny that people think Rondo drove Ray out. Rondo's role was (and still is) to dominate the ball which he is best at, and Ray reportedly didn't like it because it did make his role smaller in the offense, trying to limit him to being a spot up shooter.

Allen laso wanted a much larger contract (3 years/$27 mill) from Danny Ainge in comparison to the Celtics original offer (2 years/$12 mill with the possibility of a no-trade clause thrown in, becasue there was talk they tried to trade him that season) and when his demands fell through, Ray decided to sign with Miami (3 years/$9 mill). Now that's a big money difference.

Did Ray Allen, at this late stage of his career ACTUALLY think that he'd be able to be ball dominant with a elite level point guard like Rondo on his team? Ray just wanted to hop on the Heat bandwagon like all the players nearing retirement.

Just to say I have absolutely nothing against him joining Miami. He did for himself, not because of Rondo.

The thing with Rondo is that he doesn't care who you are: If you mess up, he's going to call you out. Some player aren't opet with critics, since most of them came to the NBA being at the top their whole career. And just throw Ray Allen, KG and Paul Pierce there, all greats. Rondo did call them out, but Allen's ego was probably to big to handle a still-nobody calling him out, and when the "nobody" began to blossom, well everyones knows where Ray is playing now.

I know fans don't like disharmony in their teams locekr room, but when you've got Miami and some other good teams in conference, you can't get complacent. Fans confuse locker room harmony with good team chemistry. The 90's Bulls teams and pretty much all the great Celtic teams were not lovefests. They were edgy, chippy, and very successful.

So if he's complaining about his role in the Celtic's offense, he's wise to join the Heat then because now he has 2 guys dominating the ball and a go-to-guy inside plus more 3 point shooters like him.

Let's face it, the only reason why Ray left for Miami is because he has a much better chance of winning another championship. The rift between Rondo is just a cover up
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Re: The Brooklyn Nets Thread (RESPECT)..

Postby NovU on Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:25 pm

Here we go once again. I've read much better stories than that on Ray/Rondo issue before, And that's still a half assed speculation/analogy that's entirely ignoring players relationship as a factor in where they want to play at. Rest of your points have been discussed to extent in depth previously, it's just a moot point now.
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