best duo in nba

by **LeBron James** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:50 am

it is talked that kobe and shaq are the "dynamic"dou.but i dont think that.best duo in nba is martin/kidd because these two are supporting eachother a lot-kidd gives many assists to kenyon and...
shaq-dominance with kobe?maybe there was a dominance but now it is gone.those two was top on 00/01 and 01/02 but not in 02/03 season!am i right?
if you say other duo then name those two!

by **TRUball** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:07 am

you do do dumb post just like the other guys, you can't think of a good topic to write about so you just kinda think about polls and think about an answer, oh and kobe and shaq are hte best duo in 2002/2003, kenyon and kidd only did alleyoops to each other, that doesn't make a duo, listin to this, in a 2 on 2 match who would you choose to win kobe and shaq or kenyon and kidd thought so, even pierce and walker are a better combo than kenyon and kidd.

by **Swoosh** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:08 am

Stockton malone

!!! Ow yeah, that's history

, well what about stoudemire marbury

, or even ming francis(mobley), or what about gasol williams, all those duos aint bad, but i dont think they can beat shaq and kobe, who are imo better than martin kidd

by **Bill Russell** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:20 am

The best duo? Brand and Odom...

by **Swoosh** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:22 am

i didn't say them cuz they didnt play that much together this season cuz odom was injured most of the time, but im a odom fan, he is such a good all round player and brand, no need to explain

by **LeBron James** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:25 am

Tales wrote:The best duo? Brand and Odom...

both are good players.but good duo maybe yeah!

by **GloveGuy** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 8:25 am

Shaq and Kobe are definitely the best. They're both top 5 players in the league no doubt. Then I'd have to say Walker and Pierce.

J-Kidd and Martin are just like a little bit of what Payton and Kemp used to be because of the alley-oops. But I don't really see that bond between them two that you see in most duos. Yeah Kidd's great and Martin's good but they just don't match Shaq and Kobe or Walker and Pierce.

by **Bill Russell** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 8:57 am

With the possible excecption (spl) of Kobe and Shaq, Brand and Odom are the best NBA duo. Both can dominate a game, both can average more than 20 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal and 2 blocks per game.

The reason I see for Kobe and Shaq being named as the best duo is their supporting cast... Without them, the Lakers wouldn't threepeat...

by **MAKAVELI THE DON** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:14 am

It doesn't make any sense for Jason Kidd to post any topic, because everything is Jason Kidd this and Jason Kidd that!

He's the best point guard in the NBA, and best ever Jason Kidd is saying. He'd probably say Kidd is the best player in the world...

All his topics, the real jason kidd has to be in it! So stop posting your senseless topics man!

by **Poollit** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:04 pm

The reason I see for Kobe and Shaq being named as the best duo is their supporting cast... Without them, the Lakers wouldn't threepeat...

and how is their supporting cast any better than any other ?
I think I would choose any other supporting cast over the Lakers'

Kobe and Shaq basically carried that team. threepeat, BIG shots by horry, but any other player could have gotten lucky and made those too.
Fisher the slowest point gaurd in the world just has a shot, but he also allows like 28ppg.
Samaki and Madsen...
Shaw...
Devean George, didn't do anything until this year.
Rick Fox, yeah I'll give you this one, he's got good D--wasn't a bad player last year. Realistically the cast wasn't all that great, but rather Shaq and kobe made them so so sooo much better than they are. And still they weren't all that great.

But how does the supporting cast make them the best duo? They still would average 30 and 27 w/ anyone basically. Shaq would probably still get his 10 rebounds, kobe his 5 or 6 or 7 whatever. Kobe still his 6 or seven assists, shaq his 3 or 4. Shaq his 2 or 3 blocks, kobe his 2 or 3 steals.

by **Bill Russell** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 3:36 pm

Poollit wrote:
The reason I see for Kobe and Shaq being named as the best duo is their supporting cast... Without them, the Lakers wouldn't threepeat...

and how is their supporting cast any better than any other ?
I think I would choose any other supporting cast over the Lakers'

Kobe and Shaq basically carried that team. threepeat, BIG shots by horry, but any other player could have gotten lucky and made those too.
Fisher the slowest point gaurd in the world just has a shot, but he also allows like 28ppg.
Samaki and Madsen...
Shaw...
Devean George, didn't do anything until this year.
Rick Fox, yeah I'll give you this one, he's got good D--wasn't a bad player last year. Realistically the cast wasn't all that great, but rather Shaq and kobe made them so so sooo much better than they are. And still they weren't all that great.

But how does the supporting cast make them the best duo? They still would average 30 and 27 w/ anyone basically. Shaq would probably still get his 10 rebounds, kobe his 5 or 6 or 7 whatever. Kobe still his 6 or seven assists, shaq his 3 or 4. Shaq his 2 or 3 blocks, kobe his 2 or 3 steals.

Well, like Jack the Stripper said, let's go by parts...

Derek Fisher: he's quite good... just checked that other thread goin' on... He's voted as like the 2nd best point guard in the NBA besides Jason Kidd... He scores like 25 ppg on me everytime I play against the Lakers, so I guess he's quite good. Also, he shoots 3's like no one else.

Rick Fox: vastly underrated. Better defender on the team; unselfish passer, could get like 6 apg if were more selfish. Scores so little cos has to defer to Shaq & Kobe, could average 15 ppg easily.

DeVean GeOrge: the Gerald Wallace of this team. Could play like Michael Jordan one night, then like Reggie Jordan the other. But still good for 12 ppg and 5 rpg. Underrated defender.

Robert Horry: more versatile than Garnett and Duncan combined. Just doesn't do it cos have to defer to Shaq & Kobe. Also, hits those invaluable buzzer-beaters.

I won't comment about the others, (Y)

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Kobe and Shaq, their problem is, they are too much egotistical. That makes their teammates defer too much for them. Their teammates could be getting better numbers... they CAN play.

Shaq, he kinda eats space inside, so rebounds and blocks just pass through his fat hand. Kobe, he thinks everything's his, so Fox, per example, just lets him get that rebound off a missed free throw so he can boost his board average. You get the point.

That's all.

by **Nel** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 4:22 pm

charles smith and chris dudley! :lol:

by **Brave Sir Rubin** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:38 pm

rough Karl and little Johnny!

ohh...you mean ON the court...

well...it has to be Shaq and Kobe....for obious reasons....

i agree with tales about brand.odom...but you can't truly call em a dou....since they never play together.....just score indevidualy...

by **Dan's Brain** on Wed Jul 16, 2003 10:51 pm

Big Ben and Rip Hamilton

Not that I think they are the best duo, it was just another pair of names to put out there.

by **scubilete** on Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:12 am

Lucious Harris & Dikembe Mutombo

by **Poollit** on Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:13 am

Derek Fisher: he's quite good... just checked that other thread goin' on... He's voted as like the 2nd best point guard in the NBA besides Jason Kidd... He scores like 25 ppg on me everytime I play against the Lakers, so I guess he's quite good. Also, he shoots 3's like no one else.

lol, he torches u too? Damn u just dropped 30 on me today, LOL.

Ya, he's got a good shot, but it doesn't look like he can create his own J if he was to be on a team w/ only one superstar on it. He isn't as good a Defender as poeple think, he's too slow to hang w/ bibby, or Parker.

Rick Fox: vastly underrated. Better defender on the team; unselfish passer, could get like 6 apg if were more selfish. Scores so little cos has to defer to Shaq & Kobe, could average 15 ppg easily.

I don't know, he's been on a landslide ever since he came over to Lakers, his D is good, but apg 6? I don't know, and 15ppg, ya, maybe.

Robert Horry: more versatile than Garnett and Duncan combined. Just doesn't do it cos have to defer to Shaq & Kobe. Also, hits those invaluable buzzer-beaters.

no no, he's not a good scorer, if he defers to Kobe and shaq, that would mean he takes only easy open shots, and still he shoots a bad %. So he made two clutch OPEN shots thanks to KOBE for the assist. And more versatile than Duncan and KG? LOL maybe in 95. Not anymore. Not last year.

Shaq, he kinda eats space inside, so rebounds and blocks just pass through his fat hand. Kobe, he thinks everything's his, so Fox, per example, just lets him get that rebound off a missed free throw so he can boost his board average. You get the point.

Last time I checked Kobe could get over Fox, and thats why fox can't get reb. when Kobe goes after them. and also I watch games and see Fox grab alot of boards. yes Fox was alittle better last year, but no matter how good he was, he would not have stopped Peja like he did last year if Peja wasn't hurt.
About George maybe he could put 12 and 5 rpg, but isn't that what an average sf should do? The cast isn't good, but I guess not sorry either, but I think their just the average support you can get.
And I think the 3rd title was sort of lucky. I gues the 2cd title was...irregular.

by **LeBron James** on Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:40 am

yeah i admit that derek fisher is very good 3-point shooter.and rick fox is good in defense thats a fact.he also shoots treys -nothin but net! :wink:

by **air gordon** on Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:53 am

crawford/curry will be a good one next year. not the best but worth watching

by **Bill Russell** on Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:17 am

jason kidd wrote:yeah i admit that derek fisher is very good 3-point shooter.and rick fox is good in defense thats a fact.he also shoots treys -nothin but net!

There are many players who can shot threes - nothing but net - in the NBA nowadays... Even Shaq hit one - nothing but net - trey... (N)

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