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Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:21 pm
New York Knicks Sign Head Coach Don Chaney To A Multi-Year Contract
Good idea? Bad idea? Neither here nor there?
I'd say it's good. The Knicks played much better than expected (37-45) this season, and for a moment looked like candidates to slip into the playoffs as the 8th seed. With a healthy McDyess and some improvements here or there, they could be back among the top 8 in the East next season.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:51 pm
He's done ok this year, but not as well as i hoped. He did a nice job getting Howard Eisley in the lineup but thats about it. Il make my vote on it been a good move in giving him a Multi-Year Contract next year, when McDyess is back. I think if the knicks are going to make any real progress next year then Scott Layden has to pull his finger out and get a more aggressive centre and a point guard.
Back to Chaney , i think he should be judged on next year.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:57 pm
Do you think they should have given him an extension through next season with the option of a further extension if the Knicks do well in 2003/2004 though? Obviously, they can fire him if it doesn't work out, but giving him a multi-year extension is a bold move, and more dollars they are shelling out.
As I said I think he's done a pretty good job with what he had this year. Still, when it comes to coaches, we usually either give them too much or too little credit with a team's success. But Chaney seemed to get the most out of his depleted roster this year.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:16 pm
get a more aggressive centre
1. its center
2. why would u be complaining when you already have the 4th best center in the NBA in Kurt Thomas
Last edited by John Mullins on Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:18 pm
Andrew wrote:Do you think they should have given him an extension through next season with the option of a further extension if the Knicks do well in 2003/2004 though? Obviously, they can fire him if it doesn't work out, but giving him a multi-year extension is a bold move, and more dollars they are shelling out.
As I said I think he's done a pretty good job with what he had this year. Still, when it comes to coaches, we usually either give them too much or too little credit with a team's success. But Chaney seemed to get the most out of his depleted roster this year.
true, also i would of given him extension through next season. I think he has done a good job in a round about way but for me the knicks have lacked consistency and often looked lost. One game they beat the spurs and the next they lose to the nuggets.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:28 pm
1. its center
The British and Australian spelling is "centre". Just as we write "neighbour" and "colour". Sure, we could all decide on one form of spelling, but that would be too easy.
Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:38 pm
John Mullins wrote:get a more aggressive centre
2. why would u be complaining when you already have the 4th best center in the NBA in Kurt Thomas
Kurt's a 15 foot jump shooter and has a problem with fouls so the knicks bring in Michael Doleac who is also a jump shooter. the knicks need a centre ( sorry...center ) who plays with his back to the basket and is more of a threat on the offensive glass
Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:00 pm
who plays with his back to the basket and is more of a threat on the offensive glass
anybody in mind? there isn't a center with those qualities except shaq, and ilgauskas, hence me saying be happy with what u've got
Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:18 pm
Olowokandi - Nesterovic - jerome james if he's free this year
john, i do get what you are saying here. this is a league where good centre's are far and few.
i do like kurt, but he's not really a centre he's a power forward. dont get me wrong he has been better than anyone could have predicted but, for me i would choose one of the above to play centre for the knicks.
I wouldnt be surprised if kurt was traded this off season.
Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:52 am
hey if the knicks are lucky in the lottery(like rockets last year) then they could always draft Darko Milicic.
and if there GM wasnt so stupid and gave players ridiclous contracts, then maybe they could make a run at Olowakandi in the FA list.
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Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:16 am
How are Kaman's post moves? Or is he more of a shooter as well? He might be available for the Knicks' pick. Otherwise, this PG heavy draft should solve at least one of their problems.
Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:58 am
Olowokandi - Nesterovic - jerome james if he's free this year
Olowokandi thinks he's worth all this money that he's not, and u'll be lucky if you get half a season out of him
Nesterovic ......well i'd rather keep K.Thomas than have him
I actually think James is a decent player, so that maybe the best option here (only if you are going to trade Thomas)
Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:01 am
John Mullins wrote:Olowokandi - Nesterovic - jerome james if he's free this year
Olowokandi thinks he's worth all this money that he's not, and u'll be lucky if you get half a season out of him
Nesterovic ......well i'd rather keep K.Thomas than have him
I actually think James is a good player, so that maybe the best option here (only if you are going to trade Thomas)
i do want to keep kurt, i just think that we really could do with one of these guys
Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:32 am
Kurt Thomas is by no means a terrible player, but it wouldn't hurt to have another solid centre with a little more size. Nesterovic or Olowokandi would be good choices - both are true centres with good numbers (good compared to others at their position), and most importantly, with the size to match up against Western centres.
Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:25 am
but it wouldn't hurt to have another solid centre with a little more size
yes it would, it would hurt Thomas because he would be coming off the bench and a player of his calibre should be starting
Thu Apr 17, 2003 12:30 pm
I never said they would have to start. If the Knicks sign Nesterovic, they could have him coming off the bench while still playing productive minutes. I think that's what they were hoping for with Doleac, but it hasn't worked out that way.
And even if Thomas' minutes and numbers were slightly down, would it matter if the team was winning? Sometimes players have to sacrifice for the good of their team.
Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:58 pm
sorry John, as Andrew pointed out that kurt wouldnt have to come off the bench. Thats what i meant to say.
just having the option to switch to a bigger player in the post for such reasons as to guard bigger players , i.e Shaq....Duncan.
Kurt Thomas and Michael Doleac both have the same type of game, jump shooters.. and dont often mix it up inside. This past summer the knicks tried hard to get james from the sonics but lost out, then needing a big man fast signed Doleac who hasnt really played the way the knicks had hoped. As a knicks fan i would like to see one of these centre's i named above come to new york next season or draft a centre, with McDyess back next year hopefully they wont get pushed around inside as much.
Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:22 pm
Knicks need a Center not a PF playing the position. I would start Doleac over Thomas and make Thomas play his position. We do understand Thomas is good at it, but they won't get anywhere when they have to face big guys. The combination of Thomas & McDyess starting would be great but the bench would not have intensity (Harrington, Weatherspoon, Doleac).
If Thomas comes from the bench, that's a good quality player coming from the bench, meaning the team will keep the rhythm of the game, even when they sit down McDyess. You don't have to use every good player in the starting 5, that's why there's a bench and a 6th man is taken in consideration. Knicks need someone who can produce coming from the bench, and that would have to be Thomas if they really want to win, cause they need a Center. Plus, sometimes during the game, they can switch Thomas with Doleac to let Thomas play with McDyess.
The bad thing still is that the Knicks will try to get rid of Spree during the Summer and we didn't get a chance to see him playing with McDyess.
Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:31 pm
Spree is shit, get rid of him and start Lee Nailon at the SF and get a PG in return for Spree.
Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:43 pm
Nailon gave his best starting the season and I consider this Don had to let him play more even when Spree came back, but Nailon is not more consistent than Spree to call Spree a shit. I consider Spree is one hard working player, just that he's not SF to guard those big SF we have in the league. The combination of Houston & Spree was only cause knicks can't pay someone like Spree 8 mil and having him coming from the bench, or not letting him play. Layden is stupid, but I don't think he's that stupid to let that happen.
Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:59 pm
Nailon gave his best starting the season and I consider this Don had to let him play more even when Spree came back
what are you goin on about
but Nailon is not more consistent than Spree to call Spree a shit
well considering sprewell is the most inconsistant player in the league.....and how can you judge whether nailon is a consistant player or not when that loser of a coach chaney gives him no court time
i called sprewell 'shit', i didn't call him 'a shit'
Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:30 pm
Nah Jerry Stackhouse is the most inconsistant. Spree does little things on the court such as play good defense so he has that to fall back onto if he has a shonky offensive game. And Nailon is too much much of shooter, if the Knicks traded Spree(they wouldnt be able to) and Nailon started there wouldnt be enough shots to go around Houston McDyess and the shot a minute man Nailon
Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:07 pm
i want to keep Sprewell. Even with him been inconsistant, scoring that is he always plays good defence and late in game can make big shots. As for trading him i cant see the knicks getting anything like sprewell's value in return. I'd like to see him play with McDyess, give him that chance and if it's still not working out then trade him.
Spree is shit, get rid of him and start Lee Nailon at the SF and get a PG in return for Spree.
I think saying he's shit is going a bit far, he's not a right fit at sf but he's not shit.
On another note i would like to see more of Lee Nailon but not in the starting line up. I think he would play better off the bench.
Sat Apr 19, 2003 10:14 am
what are you goin on about
Obviously I said I would agree with giving more time to Nailon but without getting rid of Spree.
and how can you judge whether nailon is a consistant player or not when that loser of a coach chaney gives him no court time
Again, that's all I meant, Don didn't let him play enough after Spree came back, but still like I told you, you can't waste a 12 mil $$$ player in the bench or giving him away getting nothing in return.
In your opinion Spree might not be a great player but still he is one of the NYK leaders and he plays with the heart of a winner "meaning that he wants to win", sometimes you don't need a bunch of superstars (Portland) to win but guys who are dedicated and determined to win, players who give all they got in order to win a game. If all the Knicks were hardworking players like Spree, maybe they would be a better team, however, this is not the case.
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