J-Kidd on Lakers

[mateo_mateo001]

wut do u guys think about jason kidd being on the lakers(which is probably not gonna happen) i think that would make a killer backcourt with him nd kobe.

[cyanide]

It's still in the works, but if it does happen, having Odom, Kobe, and Kidd in the same lineup is insane. If they all play unselfish, I can see them being contenders.

[YoG!]

I don't think this is a good trade for the lakers. First of all they give up some talent in Jordan Farmar. The give up a player who's starting to find it's way in this lakers team in Brown. and they lose a expiring contract and a draft pick.

Nice to have kidd but I really think kobe wants the ball to much to make this work. Secondly we would'nt be to stacked at the 4 and 5 position after this trade.

[Buckley]

I am not sure how this would possibly work. First off Radmanovic is out for 8 weeks and i am not sure the nets want to have him thrown into a deal. On this link it claims that J-Kidd would be dealt for Mihm, Brown, Farmar, and a draft pick. However, this doesn't work on trade checker.

My guess is that the Lakers would throw in an expring contract like Aaron McKie to the deal to balance out salaries. (link) And with the Radmanovic injury, sources are saying Pippen might join the Lakers (which I question).

Assuming that Pippen and J-Kidd join the lakers, there lineup would be....

bynum/turiaf
cook/walton
odom/pippen
bryant/evans/vujacic
kidd/parker/williams

A total of 12 players, with Radmanovic on the injured list.

However, I am not sure this will work, due to a weak center position for the Lakers. The Nets might throw Mikki Moore in who would be there backup center, but the Nets are weak at center as well.

[Gundy]

I really want this to happen. I love big trades and nowadays it seems like there are rarely any trades at all. I think the NBA needs some changing up. I'm tired of seeing the same players on the same teams day after day.

[Gedas]

I am not sure how this would possibly work. First off Radmanovic is out for 8 weeks and i am not sure the nets want to have him thrown into a deal. On this link it claims that J-Kidd would be dealt for Mihm, Brown, Farmar, and a draft pick. However, this doesn't work on trade checker.

My guess is that the Lakers would throw in an expring contract like Aaron McKie to the deal to balance out salaries. (link) And with the Radmanovic injury, sources are saying Pippen might join the Lakers (which I question).

Assuming that Pippen and J-Kidd join the lakers, there lineup would be....

bynum/turiaf
cook/walton
odom/pippen
bryant/evans/vujacic
kidd/parker/williams

A total of 12 players, with Radmanovic on the injured list.

However, I am not sure this will work, due to a weak center position for the Lakers. The Nets might throw Mikki Moore in who would be there backup center, but the Nets are weak at center as well.

My guess is that this is why Lakers want to involve a third team into the trade. They need a center out of this deal.

[maes]

It will be interesting with JKidd since Kobe is best with the ball in his hands. One reason VC & Kidd have been working out is that VC doesn't need to dribble for 20 sec of the shot clock, he'll generally make a move as soon as he gets the ball.

Financially, i'm not sure how this is possible without trading Odom. They would have to trade Kwame, Radmanovic, and Mihm to match salaries close enough. And why would the Nets want any of those guys if they're going to move into rebuilding mode (or make a playoff run)?

Salaries regardless, i'm not sure what the Lakers can offer to NJ?

[Indy]

This thread gives me a headache. Kobe wants the ball too much to play with Jason Kidd? How the hell does that make any sense whatsoever?

The Lakers will have to trade Odom to get Kidd, and I think they will give in and the trade will get done. I think the Nets are willing to part with Kidd quite cheaply because they are not a contender this year, not by a long shot, and they are unwilling to deal with the controversy the highly publicized diviorced proceedings.

Right now I think the Lakers are offering packages like Kwame and Farmar, but that's obviously not going to net you Kidd and it shouldn't.

However, I don't think the Lakers should be pursuing Kidd hard. I am a firm believer in the idea that when you have an elite perimiter scorer who takes a lot of shots you don't need an elite point guard. You just need a point guard that plays solid defense and can manage the game. The Bulls had guys who did this with Jordan and never went after the Kevin Johnson's of the world and whatnot because Jerry Krause was a smart GM. The Cavs are wasting their time going after guys like Mike Bibby, because that's the worst type of player you can put next to Lebron.

Kobe needs a Nazr Mohammed or a Jason Collins.

LeBron needs a Carlos Boozer or a Greg Oden.

[3P]

The Nets will have to trade Odom

Did some trade happen and they are trading back?

LeBron needs a Carlos Boozer or a Greg Oden

Greg Oden is a Admeral type player, Lebron can't co-exist with that.

[Indy]

Did some trade happen and they are trading back?

You know what I meant.

Greg Oden is a Admeral type player, Lebron can't co-exist with that.

No Greg would be the perfect player for LeBron. Somebody to help him defensively by bailing him out time and time again, and somebody who can be a big time lowpost scorer, demand a lot of attention when he gets the ball, but won't need the ball much. Greg will never be the number 1 option offensively on any team, that's not his style.

Oh, and by the way, it's spelled admiral.

Since you were being a word nazi, I will be too.

[Bruce]

I don't think this is going to happen, and don't want it to happen. because j-Kidd's contract is huge, and any team that will trade for him will have to throw in a lot. And this will seriously cripple the lakers' chances of picking up good free agents during the off season. And kidd is at the twilight of his career. Unless the lakers think they can win the championship with this team during the '07-'08 and '08-'09 season. This trade would be a major no-no.

[cheater1034]

I would rather see kidd on a cavaliers uniform

We'd have to give up way too much to get him though, probably wouldnt be worth it especially in the long run.

[Gundy]

I would rather see kidd on a cavaliers uniform

We'd have to give up way too much to get him though, probably wouldnt be worth it especially in the long run.

Dude, you're not going to give up LeBron so it shouldn't really matter who else you give up. J-Kidd and LeBron could mean playoff contender.

[Indy]

Dude, you're not going to give up LeBron so it shouldn't really matter who else you give up. J-Kidd and LeBron could mean playoff contender.

The Cavs are most definitley already playoff contenders. If you mean championship contenders, you're incorrect. Kidd and LeBron would be a miniscule improvement from where they are now.

Jason Kidd is not almost finished though. He's only 33. I think he still has 4 more years of putting up his near triple double averages.

[Nick]

Kidd is exactly the kind of point guard the Lakers could ever hope for. But at what cost?

[Andrew]

According to this article, the current offer is rumoured to be Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar and a draft pick for Jason Kidd with the Nets supposedly inching closer and closer to making a deal. I'm surprised Rod Thorn would be interested in that deal; it's not as though those players are awful but if you're going to trade away Kidd you'd at least want Andrew Bynum coming the other way and even then, you're dealing away one of the top point guards in the league who isn't in rapid decline for what is still mostly potential at this point. The draft pick isn't going to be a high one either.

I guess the Nets are looking to start over with Kidd approaching his mid 30s and Carter rumoured to opt out but that kind of deal just lacks the shrewdness you'd expect from Rod Thorn.

[Indy]

If I were the Nets I would trade Jason Kidd for Bynum so fast. The Lakers would never do that deal though, and rightfully so. The Lakers have a really good thing going there with Bynum and Kareem. Andrew is a special player, and I don't even think the Lakers could give him up with Odom for Garnett.

[cyanide]

I think they already maintained that Bynum was untouchable regardless. That's probably how the Lakers were able to position themselves into that package.

[scrub]

I think adding Kidd to any team who need a point guard would be a great trade. With Kobe having playmaking and scoring roles in LA this season would it not be a good move to give the playmaking role to Kidd and let Kobe do his thing. People saying "Kobe wants the ball" obviously haven't yet realised Kobe has matured since then and is now a better leader to the team. Bringing in Kidd will help the Lakers in the backcourt because Smush is the type of guy you want as a 6th man because he can come off the bench like Flip Murray did last year for the Cavs and provide enthusiasm and scoring for the team. The only thing I can see bad happening for the Lakers is if Bynum gets an injury. As much as I like Ronny Turiaf he is just not ready to play good minutes coming into this season. They wil almost definitely need a 3rd team to get a center out of the deal.

This is not a good trade for the Nets in the slightest. They lose Jason Kidd and get Kwame Brown (not exactly going to bringing much to the Nets), Chris Mihm (is injured for the remainder of the season), Jordan Farmar (decent young point guard but the Nets have Marcus Williams) and a couple of draft picks (not great help for the Nets because the Lakers aren't looking like a lottery team).

[Sauru]

i gotta go with indy on this one, i dont think that kidd is the perfect match for the lakers. just like he said they need a role playing pg not a star quality one. they should try to get a pg with solid (not great but great helps) defense and can knock down the open shot from anywhere on the court.

[scrub]

Would you rather have a better shot at the NBA championship getting Kidd or just keep Smush Parker?

I don't think the deal will come off but if Mitch Kupchak gets the opportunity to make this deal happen he should.

[Indy]

Would you rather have a better shot at the NBA championship getting Kidd or just keep Smush Parker?

I don't think the deal will come off but if Mitch Kupchak gets the opportunity to make this deal happen he should.

If it's at the cost of Odom, the Lakers would be far from championship contenders, and that's what it will take.

If it's at the cost of Bynum the Lakers will be making a collosal mistake for their future.

The Nets aren't going to let Kidd go cheap, and the Lakers will take a major hit by dealing either of those guys.

[maes]

I agree with Indy all counts, Kidd is an amazing player but it would probably be wasted.

I'm not sure how different Tex's triangle is in LA vs Chicago, but in the old triangle the PG was the guy who brought the ball up the floor & then stood in the corner waiting for a kickout.

They'd be paying $20M for basically Chris Duhon.

[scubilete]

Kidd is not the better fit for the Lakers cause they need a PG who can hit shots often, Kidd can't do that.

Kidd gets consistent minutes and you still don't know what to expect from him, sure every superstar has a bad night, but never as often as Kidd does.

[Bruce]

Kidd is not the better fit for the Lakers cause they need a PG who can hit shots often, Kidd can't do that.

Kidd gets consistent minutes and you still don't know what to expect from him, sure every superstar has a bad night, but never as often as Kidd does.

this makes it sound better to me if the lakers just yanked penny hardaway or pippen out of retirement rather than making this trade. Both on a ron harper/brian shaw type of role. Also, if the lakers were to take haradaway. penny and kobe can trade "why we hate shaq" stories. But I think the best the lakers can do for their team is beef up on perimeter D.