About Block/Steal:

[J J]

In the NBA I saw people who blocks from behind and then strips the ball from the opponent but what exactly the defending player gets? Does he get +1 block for the block and +1 steal for the strip? Or just a steal? A block?

[1CenT]

I think anytime the offensive player is shooting and the ball is above their chest is probally good enough to count as a block. It is a tough call if the ball is below neck area and is stripped.

I think block is supposingly comes from a ball out of the offensive player's hand in an attempt of a shot.

[Bruce]

actually, i think i would count as a block and a rebound. because the offensive player would be charged with a missed shot attempt. at the moment it was lost from the offensive player's hand there is no possesion. so the next player, either offensive or defensive, should be awarded with a rebound... anyway, i am not sure...

[BigKaboom2]

I've never heard of any of the people who have posted in this thread, but you all need avatars/sigs or something.

I don't understand the question, as I don't see how you could "strip" the ball if you blocked it out of their hands. If you block it and then go pick it up, that's a block and a steal.

[maes]

Yep, can't block AND steal, it's one or the other.

If the offensive player is in the act of shooting, any contact that alters the ball (even if you strip it while it's still in his hands) is a block.

If the offensive player is not in the act of shooting, if you strip them it's a steal.

So the difference for the same act is just whether the guy is "shooting" the ball or not.

[Abctest123]

I dont know what the original poster is exactly asking, but I'll ask something along this topic: If you guys have played Live, you know the animation that happens when an offensive player hits the shoot button at the same time as a defensive player (thats right beside the offensive player) hits the steal button? Its sorta hard to describe, but if you know what I'm talking about, would that count as a steal or block?

[Patr1ck]

Mofo, thats a steal for the defender that picks it up.

[j.23]

it's really subjective; depends on what the statistician sees. but going by what you're describing, it sounds like a clean steal.

[RapsPlayoffs]

yeah its when the commentator says lebron james got stripped he was looking for a foul but couldnt get it

[J J]

I got two scenarios:

1) I saw a play where Yao Ming tries to lay in a ball at point blank range and then Duncan blocks it in a way that its still in Yao's hands but can not get it up since Duncan is preventing him and then took it away from Yao Ming, the commentator says "Blocked by Duncan and taken away by Duncan" so that's a BLOCK and a STEAL? or a BLOCK and a REBOUND? or maybe just a BLOCK?

2) A play by Michael Jordan where he runs full speed and then jumps and blocks the ball before it touched the board using two hands and its called like a Catch-Block, so it's a BLOCK and REBOUND?

[hammertime23]

I think They are both blocks and steals.

[pHLo]

I got two scenarios:

1) I saw a play where Yao Ming tries to lay in a ball at point blank range and then Duncan blocks it in a way that its still in Yao's hands but can not get it up since Duncan is preventing him and then took it away from Yao Ming, the commentator says "Blocked by Duncan and taken away by Duncan" so that's a BLOCK and a STEAL? or a BLOCK and a REBOUND? or maybe just a BLOCK?

2) A play by Michael Jordan where he runs full speed and then jumps and blocks the ball before it touched the board using two hands and its called like a Catch-Block, so it's a BLOCK and REBOUND?

1: Block by Duncan > Rebound by Yao > Steal by Duncan

2: Block by Jordan > Rebound by Jordan

i'm pretty sure bout #1 but i don't know if it's only a block in #2

[Patr1ck]

I think if a player is in the act of shooting and a defender makes contact with the ball causing it to not touch the rim it is counted as a block and becomes a loose ball, therefore the player who recovers is not credited with a rebound.

I think if a player is on their way up for a shot but not in an actual shooting motion and the ball is stripped it becomes a loose ball and if a defender recovers it, they are credited with a steal.

Take the Live 07 freethrow system for example. Pressing down on the right analog brings the ball up, if this were during normal play and the ball were stripped and recovered, I think it is credited as a steal. However, if you were in the motion of the follow through, which would be the "right analog up" part of the Live 07 freethrow, then it would be credited as a block. I don't think the recovering player is credited with a rebound.

I am not sure about blocked shots that hit the backboard and get recovered, though.

[benji]

Every missed shot SHOULD have a corresponding rebound, however, as mentioned in the Jordan example, I believe most scorekeepers are just counting the block, and not the rebound that follows. Duncan tips most of his blocks to teammates, I'm sure they aren't getting the rebound credit for it.

However, when a block goes out of bounds, (or perhaps when the scorer does not wish to credit an individual rebound) it's a team rebound which is not credited to any player.

It's up to the scorer's judgement, which is also why an assist in some arenas is easier to get than in others. (And why an assist now is far easier to pick up than back in the 1960s.)

[Nick]

I think this is the situation the original poster was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kcCFEVx55A

It's also a very valid question. I would've always classed that as a block and a steal, but now that i think about it and see the replies in this thread, i guess block and rebound makes more sense.