Poll on REALGM

[joejam999]

http://www.realgm.com/src_beyondthearc/ ... _vs_deron/

Who will you vote for?

[Matthew]

Why would you goto such a pathetic site?

"paul peirce traded to the nuggets!!!"

[joejam999]

I found it by looking at another site that said stupid realgm poll. Who votes for an older player over a young PG anyway?

[Matthew]

People who go on realgm?

[Laxation]

Matthew your dick did you even read the article? Why on earth would build your FRANCHISE around someone who has done sweet fuck all? You cant build a team around potential. Who cares if Williams is a young pg, hes done nothing so far. Allen on the other hand, has actually done something, and will continue to do it.

[Gundy]

Why does it say "Jesus Vs. Deron"

[Laxation]

He was in a movie and played a guy called Jesus in 'He Got Game' back in the day

[Matthew]

Matthew your dick

lol what the fuck.

As for your the rest of your post, of course I didn't read it, I don't read garbage articles. I never said I agree with either side. But seeing as you feel so strongly about the subject...

There are two lines of thinking as to why someone would want williams. Team success is what GM's want to build their team around, it isnt NBA Live. Whilst there is no comparison skill wise between Ray Allen and Williams, Ray Allen is on max money and Williams is still on a rookie contract.

Lets look at the impact of shaq. Once again, to avoid confusion (which happens regularly with you), I'm not comparing Shaq to Williams. But gm's look for team success before anything else these days. Thats why Steve Nash was wanted in Pheonix, and not Marbury. If Orlando can trade Tmac for essentially Darko and improve, it's not too far fetched to think that if likewise happened to Ray Allen the Sonics could actually be a better ballclub.

You may say that "Well i dont own the sonics, its my own team", and thats all well and good. In that scenario, a Ray Allen will only be more benficial if you have talent around him. Allen (or even any legends bar the very top echelon) wont make a difference, they'll still be losing.

Now if you say that you're adding Ray Allen to the Pistons or San Antonio, then its not really building it around Ray Allen is it?

[Laxation]

The whole point of these polls is to choose a franchise player to build around.

Im not saying Ray Allen is a prime candidate for that... but I dont see the point in building around potential, because thats all Williams is at the moment.

Ray Allen is also good to build around because everyone loves a scorer, and he would make more money for the team with merch sales and shit

[Matthew]

Ray Allen sells? Maybe you should look at the sonics financial situation?

[Laxation]

Its a comparrison between two players, not the entire NBA

Allen sells more than Williams

[Matthew]

Proof of this?

[Laxation]

For Seattle's ticket packages they have a picture of Ray Allen
Utah uses Boozer
Seattle uses Allen for their jerseys on their merch page
Utah uses Boozer
The teams would use the player they think will sell the most

of course its not definative proof, but its a good indicator


And seriously... do you really think Williams would sell more than Allen I know youre going to argue with whatever I say, no matter if you completely agree, but cmon... use your logic

[Matthew]

lol your proof is who they use as pictures?

I'm not in disgareement with you, I'm just playing devils advocate, and even then you're not convincing at all.

[Laxation]

lol your proof is who they use as pictures?

Who they use to sell their merchendise... its a little different

[Matthew]

If its different, why did you use it?

[---]

i can see this becoming the size of the fantasy FB debate

[Laxation]

If its different, why did you use it?

wtf r u talking about?

Who they use in pictures is different to who they use to sell merch...

youre the one saying they were JUST in pictures, but they were in pictures to sell merch

[Matthew]

wtf r u talking about?

You're the one who said "its a little different", so i responded with "why use it then if its different"

Fuck me dead you're stupid.

Who they use in pictures is different to who they use to sell merch...

So the meat and potatoes of your arguement for ray allen as a better player to build around is they use him in pictures? Wow, really convincing.

youre the one saying they were JUST in pictures, but they were in pictures to sell merch

That means nada. If you cant win this arguement, you're "dumer" then I thought.

[Laxation]

i said thwy used allen in the merchendise photos. its different JUST phots from merchendise pgotos cos phots arent doing shuit but merchensdise pgotds are actually rtring yo sell something

abd no that ist my meat and potatiores... thats just my garnish - parsley styl3z heh

hopfully thats legible enough to dort og make senser... haha

[Matthew]

You're not funny, and you can't even prove that Ray Allen is a better player to build around then Deron Williams? lame ass.