How Much better will Chris Paul get?

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How Much better will Chris Paul get?

Postby ShAuN on Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:06 am

CP3 is running away with ROTY. Hes 3rd in the league in Steals per game, 19th in the League in Effincey which is all your stats combined and whatnot. Hes first among Rookie Leaders in Points Per Game(16.2), Assists Per Game (7.7 7th in the NBA) Steals Per Game (2.2 3rd in the NBA) Double Doubles (14)

Hes only 20 years old and in his rookie season. Hes leading the Hornets to the playoffs. Hes in the Rookie VS Sophmore Challenge, the Skills Competition, and maybe an All-Star Reserve.

So basically, do you guys think he'll be better than Nash? Billups? Arenas? Wade?

I just wanted to see what you guys think.
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Postby Gator on Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:19 am

Now you are going to do a dynasty with NOH..right? :roll: ..
On topic, i think he's amazing..ROTY for sure..
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Postby maes on Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:26 am

Also pulls down an amazing # of boards for a PG.

This guy will be next Triple Double threat now that Kidd is declining.
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Postby air2k5 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:47 am

ToXiC wrote:Now you are going to do a dynasty with NOH..right? :roll: ..
On topic, i think he's amazing..ROTY for sure..

He has already probably done one, but it was too short so we did not ge t achance to hear it :lol: .
Anyway, he is just as good as Hinrich was his rookie year as a PG, I think that by his 8th year in the league he will be the best PG in NBA.
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Postby Blasphemy on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:21 am

This is my opinion on his next five years.

Year two- 19.4 ppg, 6.9 apg, 5.1 rpg, 1.98 spg
Year three- 24.9 ppg, 5.8 apg, 6.3 rpg, 2.01 spg
Year four- 27.3, 4.7 asp, 6.1 rpg, 1.76 spg
Year Five- 26.9 ppg, 8.7 apg, 6.0 rpg, 2.33 spg
Year Six- 30.1 ppg, 4.1 apg, 5.8 rpg, 2.67 spg

Thats what I think. I think he will turn into a Kobe type later in his career and his assists wil ldrop.
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Postby dada on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:30 am

From years 4-6 it starts to sound ridiculous. I see no indication of Paul turning into that big a scorer. The highest I see him averaging is around 24 and I think his assists will gradually rise, not decrease (except yr 5), as the years pass. Did you simulate that in dynasty?
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Postby ShAuN on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:37 am

ToXiC wrote:Now you are going to do a dynasty with NOH..right? :roll: ..
On topic, i think he's amazing..ROTY for sure..


Man whty you gotta be like that?

Well I might anyways :lol:
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Postby air2k5 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:42 am

ShAuN wrote:
ToXiC wrote:Now you are going to do a dynasty with NOH..right? :roll: ..
On topic, i think he's amazing..ROTY for sure..


Man whty you gotta be like that?

Well I might anyways :lol:

Shaun I might order you a trophy for starting the most dynasties. and having the shortest dynasties ever :)
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Postby Sauru on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:13 am

dadamafia wrote:From years 4-6 it starts to sound ridiculous. I see no indication of Paul turning into that big a scorer. The highest I see him averaging is around 24 and I think his assists will gradually rise, not decrease (except yr 5), as the years pass. Did you simulate that in dynasty?



i gotta agree here, he will never be a 30 point a game scorer.
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Postby J@3 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:34 am

I don't think his numbers will dramatically get better then they are now. I think he'll probably just become smarter over time, his scoring might drop a little and his assists could raise/turnovers drop.

He doesn't seem like he's the type that's just ready to explode into this 25/7/9 monster, but he will lead a team to many playoff appearances. I don't think the biggest improvements to his game will be seen statistically.
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Postby ShAuN on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:53 am

air2k5 wrote:
ShAuN wrote:
ToXiC wrote:Now you are going to do a dynasty with NOH..right? :roll: ..
On topic, i think he's amazing..ROTY for sure..


Man whty you gotta be like that?

Well I might anyways :lol:

Shaun I might order you a trophy for starting the most dynasties. and having the shortest dynasties ever :)


Seriously? THANK YOU!!

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Why would his scoring drop? Hes in his Rookie Year averaging 16ppg.....why would it go down to say 15ppg? I think he'll be at like 19ppg and 8-8.5apg then the next year like 20ppg and 8apg.
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Postby Doobie on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:58 am

Maybe your right , but if you actually do see Chris Paul play you see that he really doesn't look for scoring. He's a smart player and will only get smarter.
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Postby J@3 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:58 am

I said as he gets smarter, his scoring might drop and his assists will rise. This is after the initial scoring rise next year of course, but I don't think he'll go any higher than 18ppg. He's not an especially prolific scorer, so he's not going to be an Iverson or anything.
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Postby AirMJ23 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:04 am

He seems to put his team 1st he isnt gonna score 25+ ever maybe not even 20+, but he will probally will be sort of a Jason Kidd but he might turn out to go after stocktons 14 apg in a season record and his all-time assist record, or he might just keep up with stats like 15-20 ppg and 5-8 rpg and 6-9 apg.
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Postby Doobie on Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:12 am

No offense AirMJ23 , but its sort of hard to understand what you say when you don't use punctuation. And I don't think he'll put up 14 apg and I think he may average 20 ppg one year , not 25-30 though.
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Postby AirMJ23 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:22 am

I fixed my punctuation, and if he turns out to play like Kidd he will only avrage around 14ppg, and even if he turns out to be like Stockton he won't put up much more than 16ppg.
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Postby kinokong on Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:01 pm

lol you make turning out to be those two point guards sound like a bad thing.... only 14 and 16ppg...
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Postby Amphatoast on Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:24 pm

i think he might end up getting Marbury kind of numbers but don't get Marbury results. Which is good
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Postby Axel on Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:01 pm

I agree with Jae, he's a point guard, not a scorer. Steve Nash could be a scorer, but he's too busy to setting people up... probably will be the same for Paul.
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Postby mark_30_112 on Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:37 pm

AirMJ23 wrote:He seems to put his team 1st he isnt gonna score 25+ ever maybe not even 20+, but he will probally will be sort of a Jason Kidd but he might turn out to go after stocktons 14 apg in a season record and his all-time assist record, or he might just keep up with stats like 15-20 ppg and 5-8 rpg and 6-9 apg.


Not being some sort of fanboy but he won't be anything like Stockton, he's playing real good now but won't get past 25 on average he's definatly a passer more then a scorer.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:39 pm

Wasn't stockton more of a passer than a scorer too?
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Postby Matthew on Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:59 pm

wAnKsTeR wrote:This is my opinion on his next five years.

Year two- 19.4 ppg, 6.9 apg, 5.1 rpg, 1.98 spg
Year three- 24.9 ppg, 5.8 apg, 6.3 rpg, 2.01 spg
Year four- 27.3, 4.7 asp, 6.1 rpg, 1.76 spg
Year Five- 26.9 ppg, 8.7 apg, 6.0 rpg, 2.33 spg
Year Six- 30.1 ppg, 4.1 apg, 5.8 rpg, 2.67 spg

Thats what I think. I think he will turn into a Kobe type later in his career and his assists wil ldrop.

Lol, so you think he'll be better than Iverson? I spose if he becomes a "kobe type" he will be, but by that you mean a 3 time nba champion and the best player in the world.
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Postby Malfa on Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:02 pm

yeah scoring 3 more points a game and dropping 5 assist a game happens to kobe type players in a year wankster
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Postby magius on Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:18 pm

Matthew wrote:
wAnKsTeR wrote:This is my opinion on his next five years.

Year two- 19.4 ppg, 6.9 apg, 5.1 rpg, 1.98 spg
Year three- 24.9 ppg, 5.8 apg, 6.3 rpg, 2.01 spg
Year four- 27.3, 4.7 asp, 6.1 rpg, 1.76 spg
Year Five- 26.9 ppg, 8.7 apg, 6.0 rpg, 2.33 spg
Year Six- 30.1 ppg, 4.1 apg, 5.8 rpg, 2.67 spg

Thats what I think. I think he will turn into a Kobe type later in his career and his assists wil ldrop.

Lol, so you think he'll be better than Iverson? I spose if he becomes a "kobe type" he will be, but by that you mean a 3 time nba champion and the best player in the world.


no.... by 3 time nba champion and best player in the world he'd mean tim duncan.

i get the feeling, statistically, he'll be a cross breed of jason kidd and steve francis. as a player he is much more efficient than francis, but not as great a passer as kidd. i don't how much he'll improve, his numbers will probably go up next year and the next by a bit, but not to a lebron or iverson like stature. like jae said he will get more efficient, and how much better he gets probably won't be entirely seen through any number except the win column. theres a bright future for paul because i dont feel a baron davis or starbury like nature to his game.
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Postby Matt on Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:21 pm

Paul ranks #5 on my list of best PG's in the L. He'll only get better. He's smart, plays hard, reads the game well and has a nice shot selection. Over time his defense will improve, his shot will get better too (not that it's bad now).
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