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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:03 am

Let's see you use your hand with constant injury in your index finger in your dominant hand that's the equivalent of Brandon Roy's current non existent knees which can't be surgically repaired because it's so messed up that there's nothing to repair on.
I doubt you could even brush your teeth much less play basketball.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby stereoxide on Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:56 pm

Kobe becoming a pass-jacker is worse than him being a shot jacker. 8 turnovers? Well at least they got the win. That's what matters right now right?
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:19 pm

At least the team has seen some success when he's sharing the ball. And I think it's a positive sign that he's trying. If he learns to protect the possession better, that'll be a bonus, though I have doubts as it's never been his strength.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:11 am

I'm quite certain I don't like Dwight Howard. Just seeing the game between the Clips & Lakers and you see how much of a leader Chris Paul is and you see Dwight just sitting there with a distant stare on his face & smiling and giggling and as a fan I wonder does he even care? They aren't even in the playoff race and he's got no emotions about it seemingly. Shaq would be fuming at this time, his drive to be better than every big man in the league was amazing.

This guy...he was pretty athletic and a physical specimen but his drive? He's a baby. :|
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:10 am

Seems like it's not only you but nearly entire Dwight's welcome has worn out in LA. Yet I'm surprised that there aren't trade rumours on him yet. There's great chance he might just walk this offseason.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:16 am

The possibility of him being traded has been brought up a few times recently. It would seem that any discussions involving him haven't been particularly serious though, at least from the Lakers' end. Presumably they're confident that they can keep him and everything will work itself when he gets healthy and the more time the team spends playing together...possibly a little too optimistic on both counts.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Bruce on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:55 pm

If the Lakers would ever trade Howard, I hope the Lakers get quality player, high first round picks and dump salary in the process. Simply put, milk the trade for everything it's worth.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:55 pm

Easier said than done, even considering the player Howard is capable of being when he's healthy. Banged up, not having his best season and being a free agent who can walk at the end of the season, most teams aren't going to be lining up to give the Lakers everything they've got.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Bruce on Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:46 pm

Among those rumored to have the option to sign Dwight outright, none of them can give Dwight the full max money he can command this off-season. If Dwight considers to take a paycut and walks and the Lakers get 0 return for Dwight, there is always the $19M+ expiring contract of Gasol. The current situation of the NBA as it is where many teams cut and trade all-star caliber players to save on tax means the Lakers won't be left without options. I believe more teams will find Pau's bloated contract appealing to make a big splash in the free agent market in 2014. If the 2013 off season and trade deadline are unkind to the Lakers, then with only Nash with a guaranteed contract in 2014, the Lakers can rebuild from scratch. Whether Jim Buss can follow through with this remains to be seen, we can only hope that Jim can carry on Jerry's legacy.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:40 pm

The good: The Lakers are back at .500 after defeating the Hornets, thanks to an impressive clutch performance by Kobe Bryant that saw a successful fourth quarter rally. Following losses by both teams today, the Rockets and Jazz are now only one and a half and two games ahead of the Lakers respectively. Their schedule for the rest of March has a lot of road games, but not a lot of quality opponents.

The bad: It took a huge fourth quarter performance by Kobe Bryant and a complete collapse by the Hornets for the Lakers to overcome a double digit deficit and defeat the team with the fourth worst record in the league. As Jon Barry noted on commentary during the Bulls/Spurs game, it's not a particularly encouraging sign when wins over Dallas and New Orleans are cause for celebration. While their schedule for the rest of March isn't the toughest, the amount of road games has potential for disaster as they've lost quite a few winnable games on the road and came very close in New Orleans today.

The ugly: The loss to the Thunder in Oklahoma City is a reminder that outside of a couple of good wins here and there, the Lakers have not done well against the West's top teams this year. Since those are the teams they're likely to be facing in the first round should they make the Playoffs and they won't have homecourt advantage as a low seed, they may not end up making much more than a token postseason appearance which is well below expectations and franchise standards.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Bruce on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:23 pm

a good summation of what has transpired in the last month in the Lakers trip back to relevance.

Kudos though to Kobe for using the passing of Jerry Buss as fuel to get back to old form and the bench for starting to increase their contribution.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:23 pm

That was the biggest collapse by any team I've seen this season LIVE. 0-20 run in the last 6:22 of the fourth quarter by the Hornets. Not to mention them being up 20+ points in 3rd or something. It was as if they wanted to lose. How many airballs were put up? Even their own fans were chanting for the Lakers. The fuck seriously.

The Lakers didn't really impress me tonight really. Nearly everything about them looked ugly tonight. It's just that the Hornets were the ugliest ever.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:04 pm

Another great performance by Kobe for yet another great comeback victory, but similar to the win over the Hornets, the fact they needed that kind of performance to beat the Toronto Raptors in Los Angeles is itself not so great.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:33 pm

He's been great lately. Is shooting over 50% and getting to the lane like crazy, 16, 14, 12 times in last three games. His turnovers are still problem but has nice assists as well.

Let's not forget Dwight's been huge in recent run as well. He's rebounding and blocking the shots very very well. And he's protecting the paint alone, actually only one that plays any kind of defense.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Bruce on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:44 pm

I don't know if there is any truth about Kobe telling the press that he'd have a talk with Howard prior to his first game back, but Howard's old team did help by sending him to the line 39 times en route to a 39pt 16rb performance. But if it was really true, imagine what Dwight could be if he had Kobe's mindset towards basketball. Kobe had his "amnesty that" game against Dallas and now Dwight can have his "nobody wants" game against his old team.



NovU wrote:He's been great lately. Is shooting over 50% and getting to the lane like crazy, 16, 14, 12 times in last three games. His turnovers are still problem but has nice assists as well.


Even if it was against a couple of bottom feeders, I have never seen Kobe perform this well in clutch. Even in the years where Kobe was playing with Shaq, I could not remeber a time he stringed this many clutch shots.

Besides Dwight, I think Meeks has also been great as of late. So much so that he has been played more in the 4th qtr over Clark.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:35 am

LoL. Nice. I always enjoy this speculative theories on how Kobe's mindset is greater than other players'. Please more.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:57 am

His competitive mindset is surely better than any of the Heat players.

You're just annoyed that no one sucks the Heat mindlessly as you do and want the passion Laker fans show to be adored on the Heat.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:22 am

LoLololl, maybe. You guys are right then. Kobe's talk with Howard was the reason for Dwight having a great game against his former team!
Bruce wrote:I don't know if there is any truth about Kobe telling the press that he'd have a talk with Howard prior to his first game back, but Howard's old team did help by sending him to the line 39 times en route to a 39pt 16rb performance. But if it was really true, imagine what Dwight could be if he had Kobe's mindset towards basketball.


And you and I both know I am more annoyed how everything good has to do with Kobe and never is the case with anything bad.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:15 am

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby JBoom_LALALAND on Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:26 pm

Damn, they lost to the Hawks. The game-tying shot was off this time.
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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby stereoxide on Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:31 pm

Time for Dwight to really step up. Gasol is like weeks from returning and the their 8th seed can be lost anytime.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:51 pm

Half a game behind the Rockets for 7th seed. 2 games behind for 6th. 2-0 w/o Kobe. LoL. Why aren't the Lakers fans excited.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby stereoxide on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:52 pm

They are expected to win this one with or without Kobe. They are expected to beat sub-par teams even with this lineup. They have an all-star in Dwight, but Jamison showed brilliance in this games.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:18 pm

Sounds quite confident for a guy who was worried about losing 8th seed just two games ago.
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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby stereoxide on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:35 pm

NovU wrote:Sounds quite confident for a guy who was worried about losing 8th seed just two games ago.

Well Dwight is playing some good basketball right now. And I was afraid that they will lose the 8th seed if he doesn't step up his game.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:37 am

What step up. He didn't. He's been like this for awhile, 'playing some good basketball'.

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:25 pm

D'Antoni isn't mincing words.

In a season in which the Los Angeles Lakers have pushed the reset button seemingly a half-dozen times already, Friday's 103-100 loss to the Washington Wizards left coach Mike D'Antoni sounding like he'd prefer to reach for the off switch at this point.

"This is a good team that just for whatever reason can't collectively mentally get stimulated to [play hard] every time," D'Antoni said after the Lakers wasted an 18-point first-half lead. "I told them today, we put our hands in [the huddle], and you guys have probably seen it, we say, 'Championship,' and go out [on the floor]. That's laughable. Championship? You got to be kidding me. Nobody understands the importance of every possession offensively and defensively. Every time they got to come out with some kind of determination to be a good basketball team, and [until] then, we're just, we're fooling ourselves. Right now, that's what we're doing. We're just making a 'sham-mockery' out of it."


"There's no explanation for it," D'Antoni said. "I can't explain it, but every time we get up 16 [points], it's like, 'Well, we're really good and we don't have to play hard,' and we start messing with the game. You start messing with not moving the ball. You start messing with, 'I'm just going to go one-on-one every time.' You start messing with the basketball gods, and they get you.

"That ball will roll around and go in for [the opponent] and it will roll around and go out for us because we're messing with the game. If we don't change that, obviously we won't make the playoffs, but if we do, we'll get blown out in the playoffs. You can't be a fairly good team or even a good team without passing the basketball, without understanding what we're doing defensively and honing in and doing it. You can't do it. You can't do it. It's impossible."


"You would think sooner or later they'd get the message, but no," D'Antoni said. "As soon as we get a little bit, like a 16-point lead or, 'Oh, we're ahead one game of Utah; now it's a breeze. Everybody says we're in the playoffs, we're one game ahead!'

"You can't mess with a game as you can't mess with a season as you can't mess with a schedule. You got to go out, you got to beat Phoenix, you got to beat Atlanta, you got to beat these teams. You got to come ready to play. We don't all the time, and we might come ready, but by halftime it might be gone. Or we might come out at halftime and be OK, and then the fourth quarter it's gone. Somewhere somebody is going to have to say, 'Enough is enough and let's play.' Every possession. But no. We don't. We don't."
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:44 pm

So a new coach during will be arriving in the offseason then.
It's the easy way out for D'Antoni to spit on his team.

This is a good team that just for whatever reason can't collectively mentally get stimulated to [play hard] every time," D'Antoni said after the Lakers wasted an 18-point first-half lead

lol, so much for a coach's job of motivating his players.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:19 am

Sounds like he's fed up with the way his players are playing and there's nothing he could do to fix it. Sounds about right. But at least problem has improved from making a playoffs to talking about championship now. LoL
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:01 am

It's sad the head coach of the Lakers can't find a way to coach the Lakers. He's putting all the blame on Kobe for stagnating the offense but can't see he's the one who has to reign him in? This is Kobe without an offensive system; here, take the ball & go do what you want. D'Antoni is too much of a pussy to actually say or do anything about it because he's got fuck all of a clue how to use bigs in his offense.

They have no offensive system, zilch. They just pick & roll and hope their three's fall.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby NovU on Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:39 pm

First and foremost I thought D'antoni was right about not showing up though. Majorly because of perimeter defense. It's funny how commentators were saying the other day that Dwight often is late on help defense. LoL. If you actually pay attention to Lakers defense, it's not hard to see that nearly all perimeter defenders gives up his man and hope for Dwight to save their ass(or gives up uncontested jumpshot). How many unguarded penetration Dwight has to deal with, how many times he has to leave his man so he can cover for teammates, it's not even funny. Nash, Meeks are terrible. Kobe of course doesn't care on D. MWP has been average and is step slower now. Dwight's the only one that's actually trying.

And offense? It's a whole new issue but secondary.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:09 pm

NovU wrote:How many unguarded penetration Dwight has to deal with

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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:04 am

Congrats to Kobe. At his current pace, he'll be passing MJ for third early next season.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby rise on Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:40 pm

You want to know how Metta World Peace came back from his knee surgery so quickly? It's because he's too sexy for his cat.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:14 pm

Unusual, even for him.

You have to admire his heart, coming back so soon after surgery, but I wonder how wise a decision it was. Further injury could put him out for a long time and if he's not at 100%, his presence out on the floor may end up hindering the Lakers more than it helps them.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Pdub on Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:51 pm

I think he was on pain killers.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby rise on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:47 am

Andrew wrote:Unusual, even for him.

You have to admire his heart, coming back so soon after surgery, but I wonder how wise a decision it was. Further injury could put him out for a long time and if he's not at 100%, his presence out on the floor may end up hindering the Lakers more than it helps them.

This was the same injury Brandon Roy had before the 2010 playoffs, from which he came back like a week later. Take a look at where he is and tell me that coming back that soon from meniscus surgery is a good idea.


Then again, I trust Metta's judgment 100%. He always knows exactly what he's doing. /sarcasm
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:36 am

Roy also had other issues with his knees, but it definitely seems risky.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:51 am

Adding to what Andrew said, Roy already had issues with his knees even before he got to the NBA. He had like 2-3 surgeries when he was still in college.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:18 am

Come tell me Gasol can't play with Howard or is a has been.

People wanted to give this guy up for Bargnani.

In april he's had lines of:

14, 10, 6
19, 9, 3
12, 13, 8
22, 11, 4
23, 7, 9

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby _Steve_ on Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:56 pm

A fu**cked up season reaches it's climax as Kobe probalby suffers a torn Achilles tendon...
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Pdub on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:25 pm

I don't know he was standing on a torn Achilles.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:11 pm

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DAMMIT.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby The X on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:51 pm

Andrew wrote:Congrats to Kobe. At his current pace, he'll be passing MJ for third early next season.

Looks like your jinx worked again :|
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