Larry Brown - the $60 Million Dollar Man?

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Larry Brown - the $60 Million Dollar Man?

Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:08 pm

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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:17 pm

This is too big of a risk for that kind of money IMO... what happens if half way through next season he gets sick and retires altogether... I know the Knicks would get compensated or something, but finding another coach mid-season isn't exactly ideal.
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Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:28 pm

I don't see Brown co-existing with Marbury. And I'm sure Larry wants a say in personnel moves - how will that sit with Isiah?

Look at the Knicks roster, it's a mess. Red Auerbach would struggle with this group.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:41 pm

Look at the Knicks roster, it's a mess. Red Auerbach would struggle with this group.


To add to your problems, Channing Frye has been playing Power Forward in summer league... so yet another one to add to the roster. The Knicks success begins and ends with the administration, the guys in charge have to do something with the playing group otherwise the whole concept of hiring a great coach becomes obsolete. Phil Jackson could coach the Hawks, it doesn't mean they'd become a good team.
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Postby Jeffx on Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:50 pm

Jae wrote:
The Knicks success begins and ends with the administration.......


Jae, how long have I been crying about the Knicks' upper management? Other GMs shake their heads when talking about our front office.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:16 am

I say they get larry brown and get rid of marbury...i was all for him at first...but really..does he make his teams good? Nets got rid of him and got kid...then they hit the finals...suns got rid of him..then became one of the best teams in the league.
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Postby Indy on Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:19 am

Jeffx wrote:I don't see Brown co-existing with Marbury. And I'm sure Larry wants a say in personnel moves - how will that sit with Isiah?


I think Marbury is easier to co-exsist with then Iverson...
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:57 am

Iverson still manages to win though.
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Postby BOSS on Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:26 am

If Larry Brown goes to Knicks do you think he'll give Nate and Derek Lee playing time ?
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Postby J@3 on Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:18 am

CB4 wrote:If Larry Brown goes to Knicks do you think he'll give Nate and Derek Lee playing time ?


That's a good question actually... it's David Lee btw. I think there'd be some huge public pressure to play Nate alot given his performances in summer league, and the fact that people love to watch him play. Whether Brown would give in to that remains to be seen, I'd find it doubtful.
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Postby T-Comm55 on Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:30 am

Larry Brown!
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Postby J@3 on Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:56 am

T-Comm55 wrote:Larry Brown!


Thank you for that amazingly insightful contribution to an otherwise good thread.
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:08 am

Just Stupid. No Coach should make that kind of money.
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Postby BOSS on Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:43 am

Ye my bad i get Derek Lee cause he plays Baseball. Ye that's what i was wodnering the whole time. With the ordeal in detroit of not playin Darko Milicic. What happens if he comes to NYC ? He might not give the young gunz like David, Nate and Trevor ne minutes. That's jus a waste of talent if he doesnt.
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Postby Jeffx on Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:34 am

The difference is, the Pistons were a contender. Knicks aren't contending for a while, so Brown has nothing to lose playing the young guys.
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Postby Stevesanity on Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:31 pm

So much of $'s for mr.shaky hips, even if the Knicks had a coaching staff with Phil J, Brown, Auerbach and Doug Moe they wouldnt make it past the first round.

I say keep Marbury, get rid of Crawford and Sweetney and release Houston and Penny. Marbury has never gotten a great team, I mean Amare was still developing and so was JJ and he only had Marion. In NJ he had the all mighty Keith Van Horn and Kerry Kittles, oh yeah and some guy named Jamie Feick I believe.

Hes never had a proper supporting cast, ok he may not be a winner but you cant blame it all on him for the Knicks losses. Theirs some bright spots for the team in Ariza(sleeper star) and of course their three draft picks who have all been doing pretty well, of course theirs a lot more to do.

Knicks should get rid of Crawford and Sweetney and try and acquire Jamaal Magloire or something along the lines of that. All Isiah has been doing is making his cap bigger and bigger, its ridiculous to see how a team can have such a massive cap.

Maybe its time they bring back Patrick Ewing, some true Knickerbockers. (y)
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Postby Strike Freedom on Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:46 pm

nah.. New Yorks dun have to pay $60m to win so i don't think they need Brown.
By the way i thought David Lee is an asian, but then found out he's not :mrgreen:
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:54 pm

so Brown has nothing to lose playing the young guys.


except his habits really point to the contrary. And he does have a rep to uphold, having the Knicks sink even deeper is not my idea of a happy retirement. LB needs to win, especially if he is coaching the Knicks. So, if a 7 man rotation does it for him, that's probably what he'll do.
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Postby Jeffx on Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:20 pm

D-Weaver 99027 wrote:except his habits really point to the contrary. And he does have a rep to uphold, having the Knicks sink even deeper is not my idea of a happy retirement. LB needs to win, especially if he is coaching the Knicks. So, if a 7 man rotation does it for him, that's probably what he'll do.


But D, the Knicks aren't going to win anytime soon. This is a team with big problems, which will take years to fix. Brown has to know this going in. Besides, I don't think Isiah will be quiet about Larry benching the young players.

If I was Brown, I wouldn't this job with a ten-foot pole.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:25 pm

What's with the NY management? Do they have to go overboard with money regarding anyone they want? I'm sure the towelboys even earn like a shitload of money.
Seriously, why do they keep splurging?

Regarding Brown, I'd still like to see him go to Cleveland, where he has a word in the going ons and what not.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:22 am

But D, the Knicks aren't going to win anytime soon. This is a team with big problems, which will take years to fix. Brown has to know this going in. Besides, I don't think Isiah will be quiet about Larry benching the young players.

If I was Brown, I wouldn't this job with a ten-foot pole.



yes, but he wil lbe at least expected to reach the playoffs. If Larry thinks that th ebest way of accomplishing this is by employing a strick 7-8 man rotation that gets even tighter in th eplayoffs, then that is what he will do. From following his carreer, I believe he is the type of nose-to-the-grindstone professional who will do whatever HE thinks is best to accomplish the goals he sets in the beginning of the season. If it means burying rookies and/or getting on Thomas's nerves, so be it. And then, after 2 years in the bench, he'll get bored and move to new pastures. Or a retirement home. A VERY expensive retirement home, to boot. :wink:
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Postby J@3 on Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:02 am

Larry's a bit of a volatile character... the Australian sports media were constantly taking the piss out of him during the Olympics on Sports Tonight and such. I think he needs a successful team, or a group of players who will bow to his every command. New York doesn't seem like one of those teams on either count.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:13 am

Yohance (BIGGREEN) Bailey wrote:I say they get larry brown and get rid of marbury...i was all for him at first...but really..does he make his teams good? Nets got rid of him and got kid...then they hit the finals...suns got rid of him..then became one of the best teams in the league.

yeh, the suns replaced him with nash...

but who's willing to trade for marbury now?
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Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:19 am

As we all know, Brown likes his PGs to think pass first, then shoot - that's not Stephon's game. One columnist suggested their marriage might go smoother if Brown does what he did with Iverson. Put Marbury at the two spot, and get a real PG. Makes sense to me.
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Postby j.23 on Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:35 am

larry browns a bitch
if he goes to new york you can pretty much expect channing frye to sit on the bench for the next couple years
i respect what he's done in the league, but he's a bitch.
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