"insider" dishes out grades for the draft

[air gordon]

jae's best friend gives his expert analysis. insider subscription required but i'd figure i'd share it. if anyone asks, didn't get it from me...

ATLANTA HAWKS
Round 1: Marvin Williams, SF, UNC (No. 2)

Round 2: Salim Stoudamire, SG, Arizona (No. 31)

Round 2: Cenk Akyol, G, Turkey (No. 59, from San Antonio)

Analysis: Can't slam the team that ended up with the best player in the draft, but something just doesn't seem right. Passing on Chris Paul and Deron Williams may come back to haunt the Hawks if they can't land a decent point guard in free agency or via trade. Marvin was a want. Paul and Williams were needs.

They blew their second chance at a lead guard in the second round. They had a shot to land Croatian point guard Roko Ukic at 31 and instead took an undersized shooter in Stoudamire who duplicates what Tony Delk already does for them.

Grade: B

BOSTON CELTICS
Round 1: Gerald Green, SG, Gulf Shores Academy (No. 18)

Round 2: Ryan Gomes, SF, Providence (No. 50)

Round 2: Orien Greene, PG, Lafayette (No. 53, from Sacramento)

Analysis: Danny Ainge pulled off one of the best drafts of 2004, but he topped himself this year -- and he got two guys named Green/Greene to boot.

Gerald Green should have been a top six pick in the draft based on his talent and potential. Al Jefferson from last year's draft and Green from this year's draft could be superstars down the road.

Gomes was a guy the team seriously considered with the 18th pick and should become a big part of their young core, along with Delonte West and Tony Allen.

Grade: A+

CHARLOTTE BOBCATS
Round 1: Raymond Felton, PG, North Carolina (No. 5)

Round 1: Sean May, PF, North Carolina (No. 13)

Round 2: None

Analysis: Bernie Bickerstaff played it safe and went with two local college stars who will contribute right away and generate ticket sales.

But did Bickerstaff play it too safe? He passed on players with more upside at No. 5 and it's unclear how May will fit alongside Emeka Okafor, Primoz Brezec and Melvin Ely on the front line.

As with last year's bold move to No. 2, they could have traded the No. 5 and No. 13 picks to the Blazers to get their hands on local favorite Chris Paul, who brings more to the floor than Felton and May combined. Instead, the Bobcats are merely filling the team with solid players with good backgrounds.

After drafting in the top five its first two years, Charlotte is still a franchise that needs a true superstar to build the team around.

Grade: B

CHICAGO BULLS
Round 1: None

Round 2: None

Analysis: No picks this year.

Grade: Incomplete

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
Round 1: None

Round 2: Martynas Andriuskevicius (No. 44, from the Magic)

Analysis: Owner Dan Gilbert couldn't stand to sit this one out.

He started by shipping Jiri Welsch to the Bucks for a 2006 second-rounder (remember when they gave up a first-rounder for him four months ago?), then they purchased the draft rights to Martynas Andriuskevicius from the Magic. Andriuskevicius was once pegged as a top five pick. Getting him for some cash could turn out to be a big steal down the road.

Grade: B

DALLAS MAVERICKS
Round 1: None

Round 2: None

Analysis: No picks this year.

Grade: Incomplete

DENVER NUGGETS
Round 1: Julius Hodge, SG, NC State (No. 20, from Washington via Orlando)

Round 1: Linas Kleiza, SF, Missouri (No. 27, from Dallas via Utah and Portland)

Round 2: Ricky Sanchez, SF, IMG Academy (No. 35, from Portland)

Round 2: Axel Hervelle, PF, Spain (No. 52)

Analysis: The Nuggets landed two quality players in Hodge and Kleiza and two prospects for the future in Sanchez and Hervelle. All have a lot of talent. Hodge and Kleiza have that toughness that George Karl loves.

But I wonder if the Nuggets missed the target here. The Nuggets needed a big-time shooter to play the three and a center to help spell Marcus Camby. They landed neither even though there were intriguing prospects on the board.

For instance, Francisco Garcia and Johan Petro might have been a better combo for them.

It wasn't a disastrous draft by any stretch of the imagination, but it wasn't all that it could have been either.

Grade: B-

DETROIT PISTONS
Round 1: Jason Maxiell, PF, Cincinnati (No. 26)

Round 2: Amir Johnson, PF, Westchester HS (No. 56)

Round 2: Alex Acker, G, Pepperdine (No. 60, from Utah via Philadelphia)

Analysis: Joe Dumars knows what he likes. He identified Maxiell early and knew he'd be a great fit on Detroit's squad. He's a mini-Ben Wallace who plays with an intensity and aggression that's rarely seen in the league.

The Pistons went for upside in the late second round and will probably send Johnson and Acker to the NBDL next year.

Grade: B

GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
Round 1: Ike Diogu, PF, Arizona State (No. 9)

Round 2: Monta Ellis, PG, Lainier HS (No. 40)

Round 2: Chris Taft, PF, Pittsburgh (No. 42 from LA Clippers via New Jersey)

Analysis: I must be getting a warm place in my heart for the Warriors.

First it was Andris Biedrins. Then the Baron Davis trade.

And now they've put together a very solid draft that gets them some serious help on the boards from Diogu and Taft and a young prospect who could eventually back up Davis and Jason Richardson in the backcourt.

Some will say the Warriors took Diogu too high. I don't think so. I think the Elton Brand comparisons could be dead on. He'll add much needed toughness and rebounding up front and he's more skilled than teams give him credit for.

We've been tough on Taft most of the year, but in the second round he's a steal. If he plays with a chip on his shoulder, he could end up being the best pick the Warriors made on Tuesday.

Grade: A-

HOUSTON ROCKETS
Round 1: Luther Head, PG, Illinois (No. 24)

Round 2: None

Analysis: The Rockets needed a point guard and got, in my estimation, one of the two or three most underrated prospects in the draft at No. 24. Head has the athleticism, jump shot and experience to be a long-term solution for the Rockets at the point. He should have a long career ahead of him.

Grade: A

INDIANA PACERS
Round 1: Danny Granger, SF, New Mexico (No. 17)

Round 2: Erazem Lorbek, PF, Slovenia (No. 46)

Analysis: To put this into perspective, had Utah not moved up to No. 3, the Jazz had planned to select Granger with the No. 6 pick in the draft. As it stands, the Pacers, who were trying to move up all night, did nothing ... and watched Granger fall into their lap at No. 17.

Granger is the perfect fit for what the Pacers like to do. He is versatile, can shoot and handle the ball, and most importantly can defend three positions. He may be one of the five best prospects in the draft and one of the few who is ready to come in and contribute immediately. Adding Granger gives the Pacers' title hopes a pretty big shot in the arm.

In the second round, the Pacers landed a guy many believe is the top young player in Europe. He's not flashy, but Larry Bird loves him. In a few years, after an extended stay in Europe, he could become a fixture in Indiana.

Grade: A+

LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
Round 1: Yaroslav Korolev, SF, Russia (No. 12)

Round 2: Daniel Ewing, PG, Duke (No. 32, from Charlotte)

Analysis: Yaroslav Korolev may turn into a Toni Kukoc type of player in three or four years, but it's hard to understand why the Clippers, on the verge of being a serious contender for the playoffs, would pass on the immediate help (and upside) that Danny Granger or Antoine Wright would have brought to the team. The problem appears to be that the Clippers made a promise to a player who didn't quite deserve one.

Ewing was a solid second-round pick who'll be able to play both guard positions backing up Shaun Livingston and Bobby Simmons.

Grade: C

LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Round 1: Andrew Bynum, C, St. Joseph HS (No. 10)

Round 2: Ronny Turiaf, PF, Gonzaga (No. 37, from Charlotte)

Round 2: Von Wafer, SG, Florida State (No. 39)

Analysis: If Andrew Bynum turns into the dominant big man that the Lakers believe he could be, the Lakers deserve an A+ for the draft. If he turns into the next DeSagana Diop, they get an F.

Given that Phil Jackson wants to win now, it's a little surprising they passed on guys like Granger or May.

Turiaf was a solid second-round pick and Wafer has enough talent to make it worth the Lakers' gamble.

Grade: B

MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES
Round 1: Hakim Warrick, PF, Syracuse (No. 19)

Round 2: Lawrence Roberts, PF, Mississippi St. (No. 55, from Seattle)

Analysis: The team debated whether to take Warrick or Julius Hodge. Both are typical Jerry West players: They went to school for four years, play hard and like to win. I didn't see Warrick as a lottery pick, but he makes more sense here. The issue now is that there's a pretty big logjam at the forward position in Memphis, with Pau Gasol, James Posey, Shane Battier and Brian Cardinal all in front of Warrick. But he should make a nice long-term replacement for Stromile Swift.

Drafting Roberts in the second round will give them a solid, albeit undersized rebounder.

Grade: B

MIAMI HEAT
Round 1: Wayne Simien, PF, Kansas (No. 29)

Round 2: None

Analysis: When you're drafting at No. 29, you expect to get a role player. The Heat exceeded their own expectations, we're sure. Simien is an upgrade over last season's starting power forward, restrictred free agent Udonis Haslem. If he can stay healthy, Simien could be a productive scorer and rebounder in Miami and serves as a great insurance policy should Haslem bolt in free agency. The Heat couldn't have done any better with their pick.

Grade: A

MILWAUKEE BUCKS
Round 1: Andrew Bogut, C, Utah (No. 1)

Round 2: Ersan Ilyasova, SF, Turkey (No. 36)

Analysis: Thanks to this draft, the Bucks could be looking at their starting frontcourt of the future.

Bogut will come in immediately and take over the starting center position. He might not be destined to be a superstar, but he should be a top 10 center in the league his rookie year and work his way into the top five eventually.

Ilyasova is a longer-term project, but he has lottery talent that was obscured by an ankle injury last year. He plans on staying in the U.S. and learning his trade with the Bucks, perhaps in the NBDL. If he lives up to his potential, he could be a Andrei Kirilenko type of forward for the Bucks and the perfect complement on the front line to the less athletic Bogut.

While I still think they should have taken Marvin Williams with the first pick, it's awfully tough to take issue with what they did.

Grade: A

MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
Round 1: Rashad McCants, SG, North Carolina (No. 14)

Round 2: Bracey Wright, G, Indiana (No. 47)

Analysis: The Wolves made their first lottery pick since 1998 and swung for the fences. McCants is a high risk, high reward player, a top five talent who had a number of issues that hurt his stock. He could step in and immediately replace Latrell Sprewell at the two if he stays healthy (he has stomach issues) and gets on new coach Dwane Casey's good side. Or he could be a bust.

The Wright pick in the second round is shakier. He's undersized, like McCants, but he can't create his own shot.

Grade: B-

NEW JERSEY NETS
Round 1: Antoine Wright, SG, Texas A&M (No. 15)

Round 2: Mile Ilic, C, Yugoslavia (No. 43)

Analysis: The Nets made an interesting choice. They clearly needed another big man and Hakim Warrick, one of their favorites, was on the board. They also needed some shooting and both Antoine Wright and Danny Granger had slid to them. What I don't understand is why they didn't split the difference and grab Granger. He could have been a three or a four in the Nets' system and would have added great defense, toughness and sharp-shooting to the team. Nothing against Wright, but I think Granger was a better prospect.

Ilic is a solid prospect in the second round. In a few years, he could be part of the answer in the middle for New Jersey.

Grade: B

NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
Round 1: Chris Paul, PG, Wake Forest (No. 4)

Round 2: Brandon Bass, PF, LSU (No. 33)

Analysis: Landing the best point guard in the draft and a sleeper power forward in the second? Nice. Things couldn't have gone much better for New Orleans. Well, the Raptors could've taken their offer of Jamaal Magloire for the No. 7 and the No. 16 and the Hornets could've really started rebuilding. Still, it's not horrible that the Raptors turned them down.

With Paul, Magloire and J.R. Smith, the Hornets have a great core and plenty of cap room to fill in the blanks at the three and four.

Grade: A

NEW YORK KNICKS
Round 1: Channing Frye, C, Arizona (No. 8)

Round 1: Nate Robinson, PG, Washington (No. 21, from Chicago via Phoenix)

Round 1: David Lee, PF, Florida (No. 30, from Phoenix via San Antonio)

Analysis: The Knicks have been the worst drafting team in the NBA over the last decade, according to our John Hollinger.

Isiah Thomas did a good job of reversing course on Tuesday. He may have taken Frye a bit high, but you can't blame him. The Knicks needed size and Frye was clearly the best center on the board at No. 8.

I really like the Robinson pick. He's an electric player who will, if nothing else, keep Knicks fans interested next year.

Lee was a safe pick at the end of the first round, though I think Isiah could have afforded to take a risk at No. 30 with a high school player like Andray Blatche.

Overall, it was a solid performance for the Knicks.

Grade: B+

ORLANDO MAGIC
Round 1: Fran Vazquez, PF, Spain (No. 11)

Round 2: Travis Diener, PG, Marquette (No. 38, from Toronto)

Round 2: Marcin Gortat, C, Poland (No. 57, from New Orleans via Phoenix)

Analysis: Orlando pulled one of the surprises of the draft when it drafted Vazquez at No. 11, because no one knew the team was even interested. But it's a good pick for the Magic. They needed size and toughness in the paint and Vazquez can provide that right away. I'm a little surprised they didn't take a swingman who can shoot the ball, but obviously they felt like they couldn't afford to pass on a big.

Diener is an interesting pick in the second round to play behind Jameer Nelson, another small point guard. I wonder if this means that Steve Francis is done playing the point (or just done in Orlando).

The Magic also acquired Gortat, an athletic center from Poland who should be a great fit in the Magic's up-tempo offense.

Grade: B

PHILADELPHIA 76ERS
Round 1: None

Round 2: Louis Williams, SG, South Gwinnett HS (No. 45)

Analysis: I don't understand this pick by Philly. Williams is an Iverson knockoff. But wasn't Willie Green the same thing? And isn't Iverson the real thing?

Williams is so far away from being an NBA player you have to wonder whether he's really worth the Sixers' time. He'll always be an athletic two guard who's undersized.

Grade: C-

PHOENIX SUNS

Round 2: Dijon Thompson, SF, UCLA (No. 54, from Houston via New York)

Analysis: The team traded away the draft rights to both Nate Robinson and Marcin Gortat and picked up the rights to Dijon Thompson.

Thompson is a good fit for the Suns, but Robinson and Gortat were better. I know that the Suns made this trade to get the Knicks to pull the trigger on the Quentin Richardson-for-Kurt Thomas swap and to give themselves a better chance to bring back Joe Johnson, but it's still unfortunate for basketball fans that we didn't get to see what Robinson could do in the Suns' run-and-gun system.

For the second straight year, it's a wash on draft night for Phoenix.

Grade: C

[b]PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS
Round 1: Martell Webster, SG, Seattle Prep (No. 6, from Utah)

Round 1: Jarrett Jack, PG, Georgia Tech (No. 22, from Denver)

Analysis: The Blazers didn't need a point guard and did the right thing by moving out. But did they take the right guys? I love Webster, but am not sure he's really as good a prospect as fellow high school star Gerald Green. He's more ready, but his ceiling is a little lower. That said, I think Webster is a pretty good pick here. He could be a Glen Rice-type player and give the Blazers some much-needed shooting.

Adding Jack via trade with another first-round pick was a nice move. He should help relieve a lot of the pressure on Sebastian Telfair.

Grade: B+

SACRAMENTO KINGS
Round 1: Francisco Garcia, SG, Louisville (No. 23)

Round 2: None

Analysis: Didn't the Kings make this same pick last year when they selected Kevin Martin in the late first round? Martin is a long swingman who can shoot and score. Garcia is a long swingman who can shoot and score. Garcia is an upgrade over Martin, but not by that much. I have to wonder if the Kings weren't better off trying to add some size. Johan Petro, Wayne Simien, David Lee and Chris Taft were all available when the Kings picked.

Grade: C+
spurs
Round 1: Ian Mahinmi, PF, France (No. 28)

Round 2: None

Analysis: I wish I could say that I knew everything there is to know about Mahinmi, but the truth is that the information on him is sketchy. Normally that would raise eyebrows in a first-round pick, but given the Spurs' fantastic track record in recent drafts, it's hard to second guess them. He's a long, athletic big man who plays defense already. He's a long-term project, but given the success of their other projects, Manu Ginobili and Luis Scola (who should be arriving in San Antonio soon), the Spurs have shown what upside is all about.

Grade: Incomplete

SEATTLE SUPERSONICS
Round 1: Johan Petro, C, France (No. 25)

Round 2: Mickael Gelabale, SF, France (No. 48, from Memphis)

Analysis: I think the Sonics did a great job getting maximum value late in the first round. Both Petro and Gelabale have great potential and the Sonics have the option of bringing them to the U.S. or continuing to develop their game in Europe. Look for Petro to come now and Gelabale to come later.

In three or four years, we may look back at what the Sonics did as some of the best moves of the draft.

Grade: B+

TORONTO RAPTORS
Round 1: Charlie Villanueva, PF, Connecticut (No. 7)

Round 1: Joey Graham, SF, Oklahoma State (No. 16, from Philadelphia via Denver and New Jersey)

Round 2: Roko Ukic, PG, Croatia (No. 41, from Orlando)

Round 2: Uros Slokar, PF, Slovenia (No. 58, from Miami)

Analysis: What are Rob Babcock and Co. thinking?

Last year they really reached for big man Rafael Araujo at No. 8 and paid a huge price. So what did they do this year at No. 7? They really reached for a talented but troubled big man who happens to play the same position as their best player, Chris Bosh. Villanueva has the skills to be worthy of a top-seven pick, but it's questionable whether he'll ever have the attitude or drive. Even if he does get it together, why not take a more sensible route and address their problems at center, point guard or small forward? I just don't get it.

They compounded the mistake by taking Graham over Danny Granger, given that I haven't talked to one scout who had Graham rated over Granger. Babcock talked about improving the team's defense, but Granger is actually a superior defender and a much better offensive player. Passing on Granger at No. 16 was inexcusable.

They saved themselves from a grade of F by landing Ukic, a guy they flirted with at 16, with the 41st pick. Ukic has the ability to come in and dethrone Rafer Alston at the point immediately. He's a great second-round pick.

Grade: D+

UTAH JAZZ
Round 1: Deron Williams, PG, Illinois (No. 3, from Portland)

Round 2: C.J. Miles, SG, Skyline HS (No. 34)

Round 2: Robert Whaley, C, Walsh (No. 51, from Chicago via Houston)

Analysis: GM Kevin O'Connor did the right thing by swapping the No. 6 and No. 27 pick (along with a future first-rounder from Detroit) to the Blazers for the No. 3. I think they should've gone with Chris Paul, but it's hard to criticize the selection of Deron Williams, who may be a little bit better fit in their system.

I'm not a huge fan of either of their second-round picks. Miles is a project and Whaley is interesting, but he's got enough background issues to scare Dennis Rodman. How's that going to fly in Utah?

Grade: A-

WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Round 1: None

Round 2: Andray Blatche, PF, South Kent Prep (No. 49)

Analysis: Armed with just one second-round pick, the Wizards made the most of it. Blatche has the talent to have warranted a mid first-round selection. He's long, athletic and skilled, and he has heart. I have no idea how he slipped this far, but it turned out to be a great second-round pick for the Wizards.

Grade: B+

[IronMan]

Hurray for Toronto getting the worst grade...

[Drex]

Bad grade for the Sixers... but the Raptors were worse...

[J@3]

I was all well and ready to post a "Wow Chad Ford took his dick out of his mouth to make a decent analysis of what went down at the draft, when he's not making up trade rumours on the spot he seems ok" when I saw what he gave Toronto. Seriously, what is he smoking. If the picks were Graham, Villanueva and Roko only with Graham and Villanueva reversed in where they were picked he would've given them an A+ easily. For some reason he's in love with Granger, but I wouldn't write off Graham just yet. Ford did ok, still wouldn't pay to read this though.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

hey air g, nice job with that post... Freaking Insider special privileges, my butt...

hey, coud you sharpen up the initial post by using soem more bold, italics and font sizes? Would make it easier on th eyes...

[maes]

Graham isn't a #7 pick, not by any stretch of the imagination...even for Toronto. He's in the 1st round by virtue of muscle and hustle, not by talent. Perhaps his athleticism could get him that high if he was a high schooler but by college, you should be showing SOME big game ability. He'll be a great defender and i believe his shot will improve, but he'll never be a playmaker.

Charlie V is a bizarre pick. You want to gamble on a kid with upside? Go with Green or Bynum. You want someone to contribute now? Get Vasquez, Sean Mays, or Ike Diogu. You want to fill position needs, get Frye. Charlie V is a project that will not yield as much upside as Greene or Bynum or Webster, and if he pays off they have a problem since both Bosh & He play PF and can't play SF.

As the live draft show analyst said, "makes no sense whatsoever."

[SkipToMy_Lou]

Thanks for the article, but Ford is clearly in love with Granger in every analysis he says why didn't they draft Granger

[T-Comm55]

Knicks should have been a little higher.

[J@3]

He'll be a great defender and i believe his shot will improve, but he'll never be a playmaker.

Right, so the 7th pick isn't worthy of a "great defender". Lets just fill the league up with Steve Nash clones and have hundreds of playmakers who'll never even attempt to play D.

[Username123]

It was funny because in Sports-Center Babycock said "I got phone calls saying that we had the best draft". As if... Anyway Babycock just came to Canada just to ruin the last Canadian Basketball team.. just another American scheme to ruin Canadian basketball.

[Its_asdf]

I don't think the Raptors did as terribly as their grade makes out to be. Oh well, it doesn't really bother me, ESPN is filled with idiots anyway.

If the picks were Graham, Villanueva and Roko only with Graham and Villanueva reversed in where they were picked he would've given them an A+ easily.

My thoughts exactly.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

So you think that if you had picked Graham at 7 that wouldn't be considered a reach.

IMO, the perfect Raptors draft would be:

7 - Danny Granger
16 - Gerald Green
41 - Roko Ukic
58 - John Gilchrist

[[L3]1101]

why is everybody so in love with Gerald Green? How many games have you guys seen him play? The MacDonald's all american high school game was like a show, it wasn't even a competition. Players were just trying to dunk over everybody. It was like street ball. Serisouly, 18 teams passed on him, and the raptors was one. You guys really need to start thinking why these teams passed on him. I don't see you guys getting pissed at other teams passing on him, only the raps. I really don't see Gerals Green doing a lot of contribution to the raps. He's weak, can't defend cause he's from high school. One of the reasons raps draft CV at 7th, is because if they didn't, some other team would've drafted him. He was the only tall and atheletic guy at 7th. The raps knew they would still have a good SF available at 16th, but not big guys. But i do regret to see the raps not drafting Granger at 16th.
And remember, those people who do the mock drafts are not real scouts. They've never seen any of the players in person, or in training camps. The scouts on each teams have actually met these players and seen them do drills.

IMO

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

He's weak, can't defend cause he's from high school.

So did T-Mac some years back.

[[L3]1101]

i know whaty you mean, but Green wasn't even considered NBA material int the begining of the year. Only halfway through the season, people started noticing him. Besides, Derious Miles was skinny as well. In the example of LBJ, he was famous since he was grade 10 or something. So scouts were on him for years. Similar story for T-mac. In year of the draft has is very deep in talents, teams were not going to take a risk on Green. There were other players that can contribute a lot more. Green is a project for many years, and maybe he could be the next T-mac. But raptors don't have that kind of time or patients. I won't be surprised if i'm wrong

[J@3]

So you think that if you had picked Graham at 7 that wouldn't be considered a reach.

Not really, I think with Granger and Graham it was a matter of who the teams prefered. Granger might be the more solid pick at the moment but it's simply impossible to ignore Graham's physical potential, add to the fact that he's pretty damn good as it is anyways. Most people had Graham going from 7-15 so it's not as if he was a late 1st rounder or anything.

[[L3]1101]

yea we can just think that Graham got drafted at 7th, and CV at 16th...... The more i think, the more i believe this was a good draft for the raps

[fgrep15]

Meh....I think Granger is a guy we passed up on because they said he had both offense and defense as opposed to some other guys who were good defenders and decent offensive players, or good offensive players and just decent defenders.

We'll see how everything works out...

[J@3]

The Roko pick I reckon made this draft for Toronto. They got a guy they were thinking about in the first round, right in the middle of the second round. Also addressed 2 positional problems they had by getting a PG/SF combo... Villanueva will be ok, he's not that bad of a player but for his personality type Toronto is probably the worst place he could possibly go. He needs someone there to basically get him motivated and playing hard every single game. Now all he'll have is whinging and in-fighting.

[Indy]

Thanks for the article, but Ford is clearly in love with Granger in every analysis he says why didn't they draft Granger

Every single thing I've read about Granger has been riding his cock.

And I've been riding his cock since I saw him play for the first time as a sophomore.

The fact that he is a Pacer has had me giddy non-stop. Ive just been breaking out in to random laughter and cheering for no reason. My friends think I'm on crack or something.

I've never been so thrilled after a draft, and my mouth is stuck like this Except even bigger

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

yea we can just think that Graham got drafted at 7th, and CV at 16th......

There were serious leads pointing to the fact that Charlotte's first choice at 13 was CV, with May being the second. Maybe Babcock tried to prevent that and snapped Charlie at 7, Or maybe Bickerstaff had everybody's niumber from the start, which is the possibility I'm mostly leaning towards...

[Username123]

If we had got Green he could bring all the fans back with his amazing dunks, but Villeuenva is also a good dunker.

[maes]

Right, so the 7th pick isn't worthy of a "great defender". Lets just fill the league up with Steve Nash clones and have hundreds of playmakers who'll never even attempt to play D.

Considering Nash is the MVP, picking up a Nash would help Toronto. Even if they fall in the playoffs to the eventual champions, i think Toronto fans could use a 60 win season. Obviously quite a few GMs are of this thought since 3 PGs got drafted in a row in the top 5.

Great defenders are nice role players to round out your team, you don't base your team around them. That's like spending all your money on custom rims when you dont' even own a car.

If this was a fantasy draft, would you draft Bruce Bowen before Duncan?

Charlie was obviously a gamble pick...but he won't pay much dividends because he's not that big to begin with. He'll be listed at 6'10", and he can't start at PF without TOR trading Bosh. If they're gonna gamble for a center (after already gambling on Araujo), at least take Bynum or trade for Indiana's developing David Harrison. Both are legit 7 footers closing in on 300 lbs.


Anyway, here's a RealGM story focused on nothing but Babcock's picks:
http://www.realgm.com/src_twoplusthefou ... t_blunder/

"Here’s a player who, despite talented, displayed a poor work ethic in college (Certainly not a pre-requisite of hard-nosed head coach Sam Mitchell, who has no problem laying down the law with his players), plays soft at times and who quite frankly should have stayed in school at least another year to refine his game and attitude, yet he winds up being taken in the top 10 by arguably the only team foolish enough to waste a lottery pick on him."

"With Bosh likely to see the majority of the minutes at the ‘4’ spot, Villanueva figures to see minutes at center, although at this point he clearly has some filling out to do if he intends to be a fixture at the ‘5’ (Villanueva, though listed at 6-11, is more like 6-9, and is 235 pounds)."

[Indy]

Nuh uh Maes, Harrison is not on the block. We love HULK!!!

Unless we have to give him up to get Magloire, he will be on the roster next year.

[Blue Nugget]

Babycock said "I got phone calls saying that we had the best draft".

He probably doesn't know what 'sarcasm' is.