Lakers Trade!

by **TheFranchiseKing** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:26 am

Move this into another thread if need be.

Hoopsworlds.com

The Pacers Jonathan Bender is indeed on his way to Los Angeles along with the 17th pick in the draft. In return, the Lakers will send Devean George, Slava Medvedenko and a second-round pick. Expect the deal within a day or two of draft day, although it may not be triggered until June 28.
-- HoopsWorld.com

by **J@3** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:34 am

That is awesome. I really hope that goes through, that's a bargain and a half... having 2 first round picks is great, since it's such an evenly deep draft although it could mean that they trade the higher pick for someone else. Hmm.

by **Fenix** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:36 am

Good trade for both sides - Pacers get future cap space and a nice defender (although a career underachiever) and Lakers get a potentially very good player with #17 and another one in that guy from Futurama. That is, if he doesn't get injured again. But still, nice trade.

by **Blue Nugget** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:11 am

Yay,cool trade even though I don't know much about Bender,but a 17th pick isn't too shabby to say the least.

by **Colin** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:11 am

Boy is that a good deal for LA. I really don't think Devean will improve much at all, and Slava isn't exactly a well-rounded player. If this is true what was Indy thinking?

by **Jackal_** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:12 am

I think that's a wicked deal for Indiana..I can see Devean George improving in a place where he gets more playing time.

by **maes** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:12 am

1. Both Devean George and Slava's contracts end next season, freeing up about $8M for Indy.
2. Bender would have to turn into Amare overnight to beat out JON & Ron Artest for either forward spot.

I'm assuming the Lakers are doing it for a draft pick, and the off-chance that Bender is an extremely late bloomer.

I'm assuming Indy is doing it to save $8M.

by **[Q]** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:21 am

damn, Slava was my favorite Laker... (N)

Bender's cool though... he has great potential (wasn't he picked 5th in 99?) but injuries this last year stopped what I thought might be a breakout year for him (especially with other injuries/suspensions)

by **Indy** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:24 am

We're only doing this trade so we can make a "Sheed like" trade at the deadline, but I still don't like it. This trade pisses me off, because I think there will be so much talent left at 17, and I would love to get a good rookie in here. I think Ive posted about this trade before in this forum, and explained in detail why I disagree with it, so Im not going to go in to that again. However, I do think George may be an OK asset to the team, he will be a good 3rd teamer in the SF department behind Artest and JJ.

by **Jackal** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:46 am

Awesome, for once I have no bad words for Mitch Kupchak, nice trade.

Yay, a big guy up front, although he's skinny, he's not a bad player. Atleast he's better than Grant. :roll:

I wonder how the lineup will be now...something like this I'm guessing?

C- Mihm
F- Bender
F- Odom
G- Bryant
G- Big PG from the draft.

Although I'm fairly sure we'll often see Bryant & Butler at the guard spots. I like it, I always managed to trade for Bender in Harrington in Live. :oops:

by **Colin** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:47 am

qballer wrote:damn, Slava was my favorite Laker...

Bender's cool though... he has great potential (wasn't he picked 5th in 99?) but injuries this last year stopped what I thought might be a breakout year for him (especially with other injuries/suspensions)

Bender was drafted 5th by the Raptors and traded to Indy for Antonio Davis I believe.

by **Micchy_boy** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:06 am

i heard about this trade rumor long time ago...
and heard some of the reason of this trade, i'm not sure about it but correct me if i wrong...

this trade will only work if Pacers and Lakers know that Bender can't play this year due to injury. which means it Lakers doing this trade just to get hold on the #17 pick.... Pacers doing it to salary cap next year...

Now if season starts and Bender can play, it will be a big bonus for the Lakers. and Lakers got a steal in this trade.

Now with Lakers having the 17th pick, they will get a big man (PF/C) with the 10th pick (unless we move up in the draft), and get Jack with the at 17.

by **Indy** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:13 am

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You have no idea how many times he has let down Pacers fans by sitting on the side in a FUCKING SUIT!!!! Ive defended Jon Bender so much, but fuck him. I would trade him for a small bag of doritos. I don't give a small FUCK about losing him. Its the draft pick i want.

And no, the reason we want to do it isn't soley for the salary cap, (that is one of the reasons but not the only) Its so we can have enough cap space to make a deal like the Sheed deal last year that the pistons got. We want to get a good player on a bad team for virtually nothing, which is not hard to do at the trade break. That part I like, but I think its too much of a gamble to give up a draft pick for.

by **Jackal** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:17 am

Hehe, he won't be injured forever you know. Besides, he might actually start playing, why suit up if you're stuck behind a bunch of other guys anyways? Now he can start. That should be motivation enough.

Say this, sloooowly...bye bye draft pick, buh bye, bye bye bye bye bye. :lol:

by **maes** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:29 am

I agree, the most surprising part is Indiana losing the draft pick...especially considering how sharp their talent scouts seem to be.

I'll have to say...Josh Smith was #17.

by **cyanide** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:00 am

I'm surprised that Indiana's giving away the 17th pick as well. Even if they just trade Bender for Slava and George, it's still an advantage for the Lakers, imo. I dunno why, but I see Bender having huge potential. I read about how Walsh really admires Bender and seeing him being a future for Indiana.. Doesn't seem like that's going to happen now. But really, it all depends how well Bender plays next season.

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:08 am

The draft is at best average, so I like the trade for both teams. And LAL could be making a steal if ever Bender actually stays fit (not that it's probable but you never know...).

by **The Game** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:27 am

PJ is starting to work his magic, i expect moves like acquiring Marko Jaric and (hopefully not)Carlos Boozer...

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:50 am

It would really be funny if Bender had a breakout season this year with the Lakers. :lol:

It was a good deal for the Lakers regardless if Bender plays or not because with the 10th and 17th pick, that could most likely feel your needs easily if you play your cards right. One thing I would like to say is that the Lakers won't win a title in the next 3 years so they may make the playoffs, but no championship. I've also seen that the coaches that have won championship before, when they return to the league to coach, they have won "0" titles. It does look like some Laker fans are starting to re-appear on the boards now. :lol:

by **Jackal_** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:03 am

Batman© wrote:It would really be funny if Bender had a breakout season this year with the Lakers. It was a good deal for the Lakers regardless if Bender plays or not because with the 10th and 17th pick, that could most likely feel your needs easily if you play your cards right. One thing I would like to say is that the Lakers won't win a title in the next 3 years so they may make the playoffs, but no championship. I've also seen that the coaches that have won championship before, when they return to the league to coach, they have won "0" titles. It does look like some Laker fans are starting to re-appear on the boards now.

I agree but you gotta cross your fingers and hope those picks turn out to be good players. It's hard to say who got the better end of the deal till the season starts. I'm thinking Indiana got a better deal but I might be wrong

by **Fresh8** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:36 am

Does that mean the Jarret Jack could be chosen with 17th pick and Charlie V (Spelling?) can be picked at 10th???

The Lakers had to get more potential and I guess Slava and Devean had worn out their stays... so the lake Show had to deal them.... plus, they are traid bait because of expiring contracts which makes sense...

by **The X** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:26 am

Karret Jack :lol:

really good deal for Lakers....tough for Pacers to give up #17 pick....let's see if that cap space helps out....

by **zmac** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:42 am

IndyPacers67 wrote:I would trade him for a small bag of doritos.

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by **T-Comm55** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:51 am

Wow a 10 & 17. I thought the kincks good draft pick with one first and 2 second. But the lakers are rocking. I wouldnt be surprised if Bender starts. Heres my lineup for the lakers.

C. Mimh
Pf. Bender
SF. Odom
Sg. Brayant
Pg. Butler

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:57 am

I wouldnt be surprised if Bender starts.

Even if he's healthy enough to play, his lanky body cannot handle the rigour of 82 games for more than 20 minutes per game... In this aspect, Bender is even worse than KVH...

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