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Bobby Simmons wins MIP

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:08 am

Bobby Simmons of the Los Angeles Clippers was a runaway winner of the NBA Most Improved Player award Thursday, easily topping Miami All-Star Dwyane Wade and Detroit standout Tayshaun Prince despite playing on a losing team.

Simmons, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer, is the first Clippers player to win the award that started following the 1985-86 season. Portland's Zach Randolph won it last year.

Simmons received 59 first-place votes and 384 points in voting by sports writers and broadcasters. Wade got 15 first-place votes and 129 points, and Prince had 14 first-place votes and 107 points.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:31 am

it was said all season that he shall win it.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:36 am

Well Deserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now we just have to resign the mofo!

Please Sterling.....Please!!

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:43 am

Tayshaun Prince? I think that was the first time I saw his name appear for MIP.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:49 am

Simmons deserved it.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:57 am

it´s good to see him get it!!

Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:58 am

I definately don't think 2nd year players should get it, so Wade should definately have been out. And him there, but no Lebron. Weird..

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:00 am

No Primoz Brezec at all?

Simmons deserved it, he has played well on both ends of the floor and has shot the ball with consistency.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:03 am

John WB wrote:I definately don't think 2nd year players should get it, so Wade should definately have been out. And him there, but no Lebron. Weird..

I completely agree (Y) Congrats to Simmons, he deserved it.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:14 am

I'm glad Simmons got it other than Wade, Lebron or Stoudemire. Congrats to Bobby (Y)

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:19 am

2004-05 NBA Most
Improved Player Voting


Bobby Simmons, Clippers
Dwyane Wade, Miami
Tayshaun Prince, Detroit
Primoz Brezec, Charlotte
Dan Dickau, New Orleans
LeBron James, Cleveland
Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix
Joel Przybilla, Portland
Larry Hughes, Washington
Chris Bosh, Toronto
Grant Hill, Orlando
Udonis Haslem, Miami
Damon Jones, Miami
Luke Ridnour, Seattle
Gilbert Arenas, Washington
Kirk Hinrich, Chicago
Kyle Korver, Philadelphia
Tyson Chandler, Chicago
Josh Howard, Dallas
Joe Johnson, Phoenix
Vince Carter, New Jersey
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas
Eddie Curry, Chicago
Shaquille O'Neal, Miami
Shawn Marion, Phoenix
Brevin Knight, Charlotte
Fred Jones, Indiana
Gerald Wallace, Charlotte
Jason Richardson, Golden State
Reggie Evans, Seattle
Drew Gooden, Cleveland
Anthony Johnson, Indiana
Mickael Pietrus, Golden State
Rashard Lewis, Seattle
Ricky Davis, Boston
Tony Parker, San Antonio

Also: http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/wallp ... p_1024.jpg
pretty cool :wink:

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:28 am

Nice selection, though not exactly a surprising one. I'm surprised to see LeBron and Wade so high on the list; I'm also surprised that Grant Hill was considered such a worthy candidate. After all, his game hasn't improved, just his health.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:07 pm

-|NN|-[pF]- wrote:No Primoz Brezec at all?

Simmons deserved it, he has played well on both ends of the floor and has shot the ball with consistency.


Charlotte's Primoz Brezec was fourth with 75 points, and New Orleans' Dan Dickau was fifth with 68. Players were awarded five points for each first-place vote, three for each second-place vote and one for each third-place vote.


Prince was a dumb selection IMO, he got more MPG, about 6 more, and improved as any player his age should. It was really not anything marginal.




Bobby Simmons, Clippers
Dwyane Wade, Miami
Tayshaun Prince, Detroit
Primoz Brezec, Charlotte
Dan Dickau, New Orleans
LeBron James, Cleveland
Amaré Stoudemire, Phoenix
Joel Przybilla, Portland
Larry Hughes, Washington
Chris Bosh, Toronto
Grant Hill, Orlando
Udonis Haslem, Miami
Damon Jones, Miami
Luke Ridnour, Seattle
Gilbert Arenas, Washington
Kirk Hinrich, Chicago
Kyle Korver, Philadelphia
Tyson Chandler, Chicago
Josh Howard, Dallas
Joe Johnson, Phoenix
Vince Carter, New Jersey
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas
Eddie Curry, Chicago
Shaquille O'Neal, Miami
Shawn Marion, Phoenix
Brevin Knight, Charlotte
Fred Jones, Indiana
Gerald Wallace, Charlotte
Jason Richardson, Golden State
Reggie Evans, Seattle
Drew Gooden, Cleveland
Anthony Johnson, Indiana
Mickael Pietrus, Golden State
Rashard Lewis, Seattle
Ricky Davis, Boston
Tony Parker, San Antonio

I can give them the Dirk one, but Vince? Shaq? Marion? :lol:
Last edited by fgrep15 on Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:10 pm

Andrew wrote:Nice selection, though not exactly a surprising one. I'm surprised to see LeBron and Wade so high on the list; I'm also surprised that Grant Hill was considered such a worthy candidate. After all, his game hasn't improved, just his health.


Probably just people who felt Grant deserved at least SOMETHING for the way he came back this year. They should really bring back the comeback player of the year award.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:14 pm

That's true. I agree, the Comeback Player of the Year award should of made a comeback of its own.

Just took another look at that list, Shaquille O'Neal is even more of a surprising choice for a MIP vote. His numbers don't really warrant it and he's already established his dominance and ability to make an impact on a team. He's an MVP candidate, not a MIP candidate.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:16 pm

What about Vince and Marion? Also Dirk did have his best year, but MIP?

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:20 pm

Marion I could see but Vince and Dirk are definitely two more odd choices that don't really seem to be in the spirit or criteria of the MIP award.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:24 pm

I love it (Y) , he clearly deserved this award, now I want to see if the Clippers will cough up the $6-7 million a season it'll take to keep him.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:03 pm

Great choice by the commitee.

Shaq makes no sense, Marion just returned to the way he was playing before, Dirk got more aggressive and whatnot, but Vince just started trying. But I can see an uneducated columnist idiot giving him a vote.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:25 pm

Prince was a dumb selection IMO, he got more MPG, about 6 more, and improved as any player his age should. It was really not anything marginal.


I disagree on this. Last season Prince averaged 33 mins, scored about 10ppg and shot at 47%. This season in the first 2 months he was pretty much the same. Then in January he started kicking ass. No longer whas he an occasional contributor, he became aggresive and is now Detroit's best low post option as well as a 20+ point threat each night.

This season he's gotten 37mpg but also upped his points 10.3 to 14.7, rebounds from 4.7 to 5.3 and assists from 2.3 to 3.0 as well as a marginal increase in bpg. He also increased his FG% to 49. It's evident in the way that he plays that he's had a pretty big improvement.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:11 pm

pretty deserving. my pick would've been him or primoz (Y)

Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:06 pm

it probably was the easiest award to predict, but good work by Simmons its good see guys that come from the bottom and do so well.

I think the Clippers will resign Simmons to a new contract and likely try and pursue a sign and trade with the Sonics for Maggette + Wilcox + Other/s, Dunleavy definitely wants Allen on his side considering the history they have.

Who knows we might see the Clippers in the post season next season if they do acquire Allen and maybe a backup point guard.

Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:40 am

^
PG - Could keep Jaric, he can backup both the 2 and 3, problem is that he's gotten injured every single year he's been a Clipper. It seems like he has nagging injuries.

I really don't think the Clips will be able to get Allen there, but I hope so. Really all that's needed is a shooter and clutch player at the 2. Michael Redd is also an option, and maybe Joe Johnson...

Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:41 am

they need to come out with a "Break-out Player Of The Year" award.

Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:26 am

15 Wrote:
I really don't think the Clips will be able to get Allen there, but I hope so. Really all that's needed is a shooter and clutch player at the 2. Michael Redd is also an option, and maybe Joe Johnson...


I agree, I don't see Ray Allen comign to the Clips. I don't think he wants to be here. Also, Sterling throwing down 90 million for 4 years......
Not happening.

Let's get Simmons resigned then worry about the rest later.
Also, per your quote above... Is Joe Johnson a free agent? I guess i have been under a rock.
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