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Postby Ataraxia on Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:10 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2027067

NBA commissioner David Stern said at last month's NBA All-Star Weekend in Denver that he doesn't believe his league has a steroid issue but added that he was prepared to take whatever measures were necessary to "eliminate that even as a question."

Said Stern: "I'm not concerned now that there are (steroid) problems, but watching what's swirling around (in other sports) … it just seems to be prudent to say, 'Let's just get that issue out of any possibility.' It's not a problem at the present time that we think we have. But it's a potent issue as it relates to baseball and the media around it, and we think it would be smart of us to deal with it."


I wouldnt be suprised if at least two players get caught....Shaq's definitely on something!!! :evil:
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Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:20 pm

Don MacLean was suspended for testing positive to a banned substance a few years back when he played for Miami, so I guess it's possible a couple of players will end missing some time due to some stimulant or supplement they're taking.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:31 pm

'Steroids', at least the ones allegedly used in baseball will never be used in basketbal as their effects would be increasing bulk and limiting mobility. Other type of enhancers maybe, but not steroids, no Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds - type physique would cut it in the NBA...
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Postby mp3 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:26 am

Even if there is 'steroid' problem in the nba iam sure the league has know about it for years and covered it up for the better of the nba.

Charles Barkley said he smoked pot weekly during his playing days, Charles Oakley said that 80% of the league smoked pot but no one ever seemed to get caught..

funny that.
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Postby Amphatoast on Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:26 am

vince carter must take some steriods to jump so high some nights and pull them sick dunks.

smoking pot, well many did it already and its known, just think of portland 2 years ago with rashweed wallace
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Postby Drex on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:10 am

Shaq's definitely on something!!!

Burgers, maybe?
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Postby Indy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:45 am

In Bill Russels book he says most of the players favorite drug of choice is cocaine.

This whole steroid scandal is so overrated. To be honest, i really dont care if baseball, football or basketball players use steroids. Its not like it magically gives you big muscles, you still have to lift weight intensley, all steroids do is allow you to build big muscles easier. Plus, big muslces dont magically make you good at a sport, you need to have a huge amount of skill to play in the NBA, MLB, NFL etc. In basketball steroids would HINDER your play, not help it because basketball is a finesse game and not a power game. Even for a guy like shaq who bases his game on power, still needs that finesse. If shaq took steroids it wouldnt help or hurt him.
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Postby jwill2 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:09 am

steroids are only serious in baseball because hitting such a big part. just swinnnggggggg the bat. if the ball goes outta the park, take your time and walk the bases. there's no need to run. also the fact that baseball is america's favourite pasttime doesn't help either.

just out of curiosity, you really think bonds knowingly took steroids? i'm 99% sure giambi did, but if bonds really take steroids, you think he would've stole as many bases as he did?
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Postby Amphatoast on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:15 am

he might not of used steriods early in his career ( he was skinny then too i believe) but later on he did 'bulk up' and has been hitting more home runs and reduce in stolen bases.
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Postby The GOAT on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:21 am

Drex wrote:
Shaq's definitely on something!!!

Burgers, maybe?
No, it's the same kind of drugs Mo Vaughn was on, the name was something like "All-You-Can-Eat Buffet"...
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Postby Indy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:42 am

No demilioso, you are misinformed. I have a friend who plays baseball and basketball, who thought the same thing you did. He started taking steroids, and stopped lifting weights thinking the steroids would do wonders for him. You know what happened to him? he lost 15 pounds because he stopped lifting weights.
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Postby j.23 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:03 am

^^ he probably gained some man tits ontop of that too (steroids increase your estrogen level)
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Postby Indy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:24 am

j.23 wrote:^^ he probably gained some man tits ontop of that too (steroids increase your estrogen level)


his muscles just basically turned to flab, and muscle weighs more then fat which is why his weight went down.
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Postby Indy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:26 am

demilioso wrote:
IndyPacers67 wrote:No demilioso, you are misinformed. I have a friend who plays baseball and basketball, who thought the same thing you did. He started taking steroids, and stopped lifting weights thinking the steroids would do wonders for him. You know what happened to him? he lost 15 pounds because he stopped lifting weights.


Your friend is one example. I'm going by the many stories of professional athletes who will tell you exactly what I have said.


NONE of them stopped lifting weights and magically got buff. They still had to lift heavily and have a weight lifting program. I even read Jose Conseco's book a couple weeks ago, and he said it seemed like the steroids were doing nothing for the first month, so he continued lifting weights, then started to see the improvements.

Steroids are like viagra, viagra doesnt just get you hard for no reason, you still have to have a girl rubbing on your dick :wink:
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Postby Sauru on Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:00 am

jwill2 wrote:steroids are only serious in baseball because hitting such a big part. just swinnnggggggg the bat. if the ball goes outta the park, take your time and walk the bases. there's no need to run. also the fact that baseball is america's favourite pasttime doesn't help either.

just out of curiosity, you really think bonds knowingly took steroids? i'm 99% sure giambi did, but if bonds really take steroids, you think he would've stole as many bases as he did?



steroids can also be a big problem in football as well. no way in hell someone can tell me some of the players over the years were not on the juice. as for the bonds comment, i am 100% positive he knew he was taking them. just cause you take steroids does not mean you are going to slow way down. shit loads of LB's have taken them and all it really does is make them hit harder, speed not really effected at all.
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Postby COOLmac© on Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:25 pm

maybe big wilt C. could be using something long ago, when he dominated the league....the sanctions for drug used in the nba is quiet heavy so i doubt players will risk their careers on such stupid stuff (N)
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Postby Sauru on Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:40 pm

wilt was never really a big man. i know that sounds stupid but what i mean is bulk wise. when he was at his best he was rather trim.
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Postby Username123 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:30 pm

QUESTION: Are steriods leagall? I mean can i jus buy them from Wall-Mart or something? If they are open to everyone then i should get them, i am skinny myself.. anyway i heard taking steriods can shrink ur balls :?
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Postby COOLmac© on Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:37 pm

not only balls but the whole package you are carrying :lol:
actually you just can't buy anything in wall-mart thses days.
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Postby Colin on Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:41 pm

Don't take steroids, it's just dumb. There's so many bad things that happen.

It does a lot more than shrink your balls. You'd have more estrogen and get female characteristics (higher voice, tits!), acne (especially on your back), the disease that causes yellow skin, sexual side effects, higher risk of heart diseases along with heart attacks and strokes, and teh list goes on. I think there's also a brain thing you can get.
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Postby The GOAT on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:00 pm

higher voice

See: Barry Bonds
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Postby COOLmac© on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:09 pm

insert british accent here------->i say
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:12 pm

insert british accent here------->i say
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No, steroids DO NOT make you white...
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Postby iKe7in on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:23 pm

Just taking steroids does nothing. Their purpose is to increase muscle growth, but you still have to work out. When you work out and have the steroids in your system, you build muscle at a much faster rate.
One popular very legal steroid is creatine, and some guys in my weight training class use it. It's not really a steroid, because all it does is increase the amount of water in your muscles. Within like half an hour of drinking some, your arms ballon up real big (not cartoony, but definitely noticeable), and you can lift much more than usual, building up more strength than normal. If your max was 200, you can probably do like 250 with the creatine, and will therefore build up the muscle much faster. The results from the workout remain, and the creatine wears off and the water eventually gets pissed out like a fuckin hydrant.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:40 pm

Even if they aren't the magic drug they're often made out to be, steroids still offer a certain unfair advantage, a shortcut. When it comes to amazing athletic feats, I'd rather see so-called freaks of nature than freaks of steroids.
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