Corey Maggette an allstar?

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Corey Maggette an allstar?

Postby Indy on Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:31 am

PPG-21.1
RPG-5.80
APG-3.3

I think those are allstar numbers. Too bad he has so many guys in front of him in the west.
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Postby Jona on Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:16 am

If he's an All-Star and Manu Ginobili isn't, I wouldn't watch the damn game. :twisted:
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Postby Matthew on Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:18 am

So you're not going to watch the ASG becuase Manu is going to be an all star?
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Postby Jona on Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:20 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ EDITED :oops:
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Postby The X on Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:24 am

Maggette falls into same trap as Finley did.....

putting up all-star numbers on an improved team but not a marquee star....

same as Elton Brand....

shame....
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Postby Alvin on Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:31 pm

he won't be an allstar this year, at least not ahead of brand
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:30 pm

Maggette doesn't deserve an All-Star spot, I can honestly say the Clippers play better without him. I won't say they're a better team without him, but he's too trigger happy at times, and forces the action too much.

He's definately not an All-Star this season, Ginobili, Bibby, Rashard Lewis are other Guards/Small Forwards that deserve it over him. He's also injured right now.
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Postby Drex on Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:45 pm

Maggette doesn't deserve an All-Star spot, I can honestly say the Clippers play better without him. I won't say they're a better team without him, but he's too trigger happy at times, and forces the action too much.

I've been thinking about that a lot. The Clips play really good without Maggette. Brand gets more shots, Simmons gets more shots, Jaric, etc.
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:53 am

As a season ticket holder I don't agree that the Clips play better without him. If they had Maggette in the line up they prob would have beaten Phily and the Bucks.

I do agree he can be too trigger happy with jumpers but only because when he drives he gets to the line almost everytime. Corey is also not afraid to take the big shot. He has made some clutch shots this year. A FEW!!! (Maybe it's the offseason training with Kobe)
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Postby J-Smoove on Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:34 am

seriously, maggette is not trigger friendly. he's a great ball player and he can shoot. i have no problem with him shooting because he can make it. same goes for bobby simmons (although i still hate him because i gotta stay true to my word and jump on his bandwagon when i totally bashed him)

they need him. he doesnt deserve all-star but hes very very close.
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Postby Drex on Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:12 am

Elton Brand deserves it and it's closer than Maggette (Y)
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Postby John WB on Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:14 am

Too many good guards for him to make it.
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:27 am

seriously, maggette is not trigger friendly. he's a great ball player and he can shoot. i have no problem with him shooting because he can make it. same goes for bobby simmons (although i still hate him because i gotta stay true to my word and jump on his bandwagon when i totally bashed him)

they need him. he doesnt deserve all-star but hes very very close.

I'm a Maggette fan and a Clippers fan, so please, don't give me the I'm just saying garbage thing. Maggette hurts the team at times because he's too trigger friendly. When Maggette is out, the ball goes through Brand, and the team plays much better. Like I said, the Clippers play better without Maggette, but aren't a better team without him.
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:13 am

I'm a Maggette fan and a Clippers fan, so please, don't give me the I'm just saying garbage thing. Maggette hurts the team at times because he's too trigger friendly. When Maggette is out, the ball goes through Brand, and the team plays much better. Like I said, the Clippers play better without Maggette, but aren't a better team without him.


I agree with what you're saying. The ball should be ran thru Brand 85% of the time. I did not get what you were saying at first.

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Postby VCFAN on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:31 am

How on earth did Manu get an all-star spot ahead of Bibby. I haven't seen Manu play much but statistically Bibby is a better player. Manu's numbers are nothing to impressive unless he does a bunch of other stuff stats dont show. Can someone explain??
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:34 am

Kaman was on a tear not too long ago, he's slowed down a little, but he's been playing very good at center. He compliments Brand much better than Wilcox does. He's also a much better defender than Wilcox, and does the little things Wilcox doesn't like setting high post screens, crashing the glass etc.

He also doesn't take space from Brand in the post offensively. I like Wilcox, but he really doesn't fit the team. I think in the off-season after re-signing Simmons, and maybe Jaric, we should look to do a sign and trade involving Wilcox, get some players that will improve the depth of the team. Right now the Clippers need depth at SF, need a shooter, and depth at PF. Wilcox gives depth at PF, but isn't an ideal backup type player.

How on earth did Manu get an all-star spot ahead of Bibby. I haven't seen Manu play much but statistically Bibby is a better player. Manu's numbers are nothing to impressive unless he does a bunch of other stuff stats dont show. Can someone explain??

Are you serious? Even statistically Manu has just as good or better numbers when you look at their minutes. Without the numbers though, I'd take him over Bibby, like Bibby, he's instrumental in many of ther Spurs wins, he's also a much better defender, and he's been playing very well.

Manu is putting up 15.9 points, 4.4 rebounds, 4.0 assists, 1.76 steals, 49% FG, 39% 3PT, and check this, in 29.8 minutes a game. His team has the best record in the league, and he's the 2nd best player on the team.

Bibby is putting 18.4 points, 4.4 rebounds, 6.3 assists, 1.48 steals, 45.6% FG, 36.4% 3PT, in 38.2 minutes a game.

Yes, just looking at the numbers vaguely, Bibby must be killing him, but Per 40, Manu has much better numbers

Ginobili--------Bibby
21.3---- PPG---19.3
5.9------RPG---4.6
5.4------APG---6.6
2.4------SPG---1.5
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Postby John WB on Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:39 am

VCFAN wrote:How on earth did Manu get an all-star spot ahead of Bibby. I haven't seen Manu play much but statistically Bibby is a better player. Manu's numbers are nothing to impressive unless he does a bunch of other stuff stats dont show. Can someone explain??


It's a conspiracy against the Kings. ESPN and TNT never mention them as serious threats in the Playoffs. They aren't mentioned in the same breath as the Spurs, Suns, Sonics, and Mavs despite having a better record than the Mavs, and being capable of beating any team on any given night.

Well I think that is true, but Bibby plays more minutes than Ginobli, so that can account for the better stats. But it's not all about stats, Ginobli has been playing great ball for ESPN and TNT's bandwagon team. Taking over the spot the Lakers had last year.

I think Bibby deserves to make an All-Star team it its a shame he never has and that no King has this year, but Ginobli deserves the nod.
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:03 am

He also doesn't take space from Brand in the post offensively. I like Wilcox, but he really doesn't fit the team. I think in the off-season after re-signing Simmons, and maybe Jaric, we should look to do a sign and trade involving Wilcox, get some players that will improve the depth of the team. Right now the Clippers need depth at SF, need a shooter, and depth at PF. Wilcox gives depth at PF, but isn't an ideal backup type player.


Wilcox could be used as good bait. Who do you think they should go for.

Wilcox for Jon Barry? The Rockets need a PF. The Clippers need a hard nose in the locker room.
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Postby fgrep15 on Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:19 am

I really don't know, I'd love Vladimir Radmonovic, but the Sonics won't give him up. Jon Barry is a guy you can get in the FA market anyways, so no need to trade Wilcox for someone like him.

A younger guy who can shoot, and is worth Wilcox. I'd like the Clippers to go after a Michael Redd, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson, but then Simmons wouldn't be coming back, and I like Simmons game a lot.

I don't know really...
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Postby Yessie on Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:55 am

if there 1 thing i dont want to watch in an allstar game ever are clipper and hawk players EVER!!!! 8-) maybe brand hes good. but nobody else.
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Postby cyanide on Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:11 pm

Going back to the topic, Maggette wasn't even mentioned as a consideration. Like Yessie said, you're not going to see a Hawks or a Clippers jersey in the All Star game for a while.
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Postby fgrep15 on Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:57 pm

Brand was in the All-Star game 3 years ago as an injury replacement. Next year if the Clippers stay healthy you'll be seeing a Clipper player in the All-Star game. It's not like Maggette is a boring player or something, if the Clippers stay injury free and are in the playoffs, Brand and/or Maggette can make it.

lol @ no Clipper player ever making the All-Star team :roll:
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