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Postby Sauru on Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:10 am

i will say this, it is not the players fault if the game is decided by a flop, the fault is 100% with the refs and the league. you cannot blame a player for using every advantage afforded to them to win a game. flopping is not dirty, its playing the system.

with all that said i fucking hate flopping and want it gone but it will never go away until the league forces it to go away. until then coaches will continue to teach players how to sell calls as they have since the beginning of time.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby hova- on Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:11 am

It's up for the refs to decide if it is a flop or not. If somebody is fouling you and you are 250 lbs like LeBron for example, I think it is normal to exagerate.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:02 am

Sauru wrote:i will say this, it is not the players fault if the game is decided by a flop, the fault is 100% with the refs and the league. you cannot blame a player for using every advantage afforded to them to win a game. flopping is not dirty, its playing the system.

with all that said i fucking hate flopping and want it gone but it will never go away until the league forces it to go away. until then coaches will continue to teach players how to sell calls as they have since the beginning of time.


That's generally how I feel as well. As long as it's considered a legitimate tactic and gamesmanship, players are going to try to make it work for them. It's kind of grubby, though. The league has admittedly tried to address it, but much like the "zero tolerance technicals" approach they tried about ten years ago, the efforts have been halfhearted and inconsistent, and ultimately ineffective.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:04 am

Andrew wrote:
Sauru wrote:i will say this, it is not the players fault if the game is decided by a flop, the fault is 100% with the refs and the league. you cannot blame a player for using every advantage afforded to them to win a game. flopping is not dirty, its playing the system.

with all that said i fucking hate flopping and want it gone but it will never go away until the league forces it to go away. until then coaches will continue to teach players how to sell calls as they have since the beginning of time.


That's generally how I feel as well. As long as it's considered a legitimate tactic and gamesmanship, players are going to try to make it work for them. It's kind of grubby, though. The league has admittedly tried to address it, but much like the "zero tolerance technicals" approach they tried about ten years ago, the efforts have been halfhearted and inconsistent, and ultimately ineffective.


That's the problem, they try to curve it with halfway effort. I remember a couple fines being thrown out there one season, and some warnings. But nothing concrete.

Unfortunately, it's just as bad now as it has ever been. It hurts the game.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:08 am

Yeah, inconsistent fines are meaningless to players making a ton of money, especially when teams are probably happy to step in and pay the fines for them. Simply not giving players the calls sends a strong message by removing the tactic's effectiveness.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:41 am

Big test for the Knicks tonight in Toronto;

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:12 am

I'm not mad at the Knicks losing to Hoston, but Atlanta?????? C'mon. They have to start doing better on the road, because they have a killer schedule coming up.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:27 am

Porzingis is questionable for tonight's game vs OKC. Damn, this cat won't have a long NBA career getting hurt every other day.


I'll be very disappointed if Carmelo gets a standing 'O' at MSG (which he probably will, because these younger Knick fans are clueless). He's not on Ewing's level, or even Bernard King's. Aside from that one year, he was a bust in NY.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:06 pm

Noah's career has really hit the skids. As for Porzingas, you obviously don't want him taking unnecessary risks, but with it happening consistently against elite teams and the injuries seemingly coming out of nowhere, you can't help but raise an eyebrow.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:18 am

I am so done with Hornacek.....the rest of the season should be about developing Frank. Does management actually think this a playoff team?


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Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:16 pm

Kristaps Porzingis MRI Reveals Knee Injury to Be Torn ACL; Will Undergo Surgery

The New York Knicks announced Tuesday star forward Kristaps Porzingis tore the ACL in his left knee.

Porzingis injured himself after dunking over Giannis Antetokounmpo during Tuesday's game against the Milwaukee Bucks. He landed awkwardly and was carried to the locker room by teammates.

Shams Charania of The Vertical reported Porzingis will undergo season-ending surgery.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jackal on Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:58 am

Damn, my condolences Knicks fans. That's a tough blow. Hope he fully recovers and returns to his unicorn form.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:14 am

Jackal wrote:Damn, my condolences Knicks fans. That's a tough blow. Hope he fully recovers and returns to his unicorn form.


The Knicks have been cursed since Jeff Van Gundy left. Time to break it down, tank, get into the lottery and rebuild......AGAIN. Seems like I've saying that a lot since 2001. And I have no faith in our clueless front office, particularly Steve Mills. This is the same assclown who gave THJ a $71mil contract. HE'S going to turn this s***hole franchise around?????

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby benji on Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:44 pm

NEW YORK KNICKS
Noah was banished from the Knicks after an altercation with coach Jeff Hornacek during a practice last month. The disagreement stemmed from Noah’s lack of playing time, and it turned physical the day after he logged only five minutes against the Warriors.

While no punches were thrown, a source told the Daily News' Frank Isola that Hornacek was the first to shove Noah before they had to be separated.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:48 pm

Hey now, that brand of dysfunction is infringing on the Bulls' copyright!
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:19 am

Noah with the 'roid rage.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:57 am

benji wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS
Noah was banished from the Knicks after an altercation with coach Jeff Hornacek during a practice last month. The disagreement stemmed from Noah’s lack of playing time, and it turned physical the day after he logged only five minutes against the Warriors.

While no punches were thrown, a source told the Daily News' Frank Isola that Hornacek was the first to shove Noah before they had to be separated.



Noah & Hornacek...two lasting gifts from Phil Jackson. BOTH need to go.

Knicks are in for a long rebuild, like Philadelphia's. So f-n frustrating Andrew. The franchise has been pathetic since 2001, and we're looking at another 4-5 years of sucking, maybe more. I have very little faith in Steve Mills.


Troy Williams to sign a 10-day contract;

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:45 am

Jeffx wrote:
benji wrote:NEW YORK KNICKS
Noah was banished from the Knicks after an altercation with coach Jeff Hornacek during a practice last month. The disagreement stemmed from Noah’s lack of playing time, and it turned physical the day after he logged only five minutes against the Warriors.

While no punches were thrown, a source told the Daily News' Frank Isola that Hornacek was the first to shove Noah before they had to be separated.



Noah & Hornacek...two lasting gifts from Phil Jackson. BOTH need to go.

Knicks are in for a long rebuild, like Philadelphia's. So f-n frustrating Andrew. The franchise has been pathetic since 2001, and we're looking at another 4-5 years of sucking, maybe more. I have very little faith in Steve Mills.


Troy Williams to sign a 10-day contract;

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What did you think of Trey Burke last night? And how the Knicks are rotating through guards?

https://nypost.com/2018/02/22/knicks-begin-justifying-why-point-guard-move-wont-be-ntilikina/
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:37 am

Burke did well I guess....I'm just so frustrated. Watching Donovan Mitchell makes me sick to my stomach. This kid was right in our lap, but our genius owner waits until AFTER the draft to dump Phil. Of course Phil picks the french fry because he fits the f-n triangle. The incompetence of this organization knows no bounds.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Dee4Three on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:26 am

Jeffx wrote:Burke did well I guess....I'm just so frustrated. Watching Donovan Mitchell makes me sick to my stomach. This kid was right in our lap, but our genius owner waits until AFTER the draft to dump Phil. Of course Phil picks the french fry because he fits the f-n triangle. The incompetence of this organization knows no bounds.


Yeah, it's almost like he intentionally screwed the Knicks over with that pick. It still doesn't make sense to me.

I do think Frank will end up being a good NBA player, but Donovan Mitchell has/had pretty obvious advantages. But, supposedly Phil was sleeping through workouts... so yeah.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:44 am

Oh he screwed us big time with that pick, along with Noah's ridiculous contract......Knicks have no choice but to buy him out.

And yes, Phil was sleeping through workouts. He pulled off one of the biggest con jobs in sports history.

The french fry is only 19, so maybe he'll develop, who knows? But he's not the athletic, explosive player this franchise needs to pair with Porzingis.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:46 am

So far, Mudiay has turned out to be a bust.

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At least Trae Young wants to play here, lol.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Andrew on Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:36 am

There's something oddly poetic about the Bulls and Knicks battling each other in the race to the bottom. Not quite as exciting as their Playoff clashes, mind you.
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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Postby Jeffx on Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:40 am

Andrew wrote:There's something oddly poetic about the Bulls and Knicks battling each other in the race to the bottom. Not quite as exciting as their Playoff clashes, mind you.


The most frustrating part is I have ZERO confidence that the Knicks front office can get this franchise to where Philly is. Knicks have been a laughing-stock for nearly 20 years, mostly because of short-term thinking by management.
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