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Too Many 3 Pointers

Postby VCFAN on Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:12 am

What do you guys think about the amount of three pointers being taken in the NBA today. Personally I don't like this at all. I believe the three pointer should not be used as much as it is. It takes away from the strategy and challenge in the game. Sure three pointers are necessary in many situations like at end of quarters or games or at the end of a shot clock. Or if you really need a comeback. I'm fine with that but when i see players run down the court stop and launch a three for no particular reason it seems like the player doing so is taking the easy way out instead of working for his points.

I don't think the three pointer should be the first resort in the game. There are many players where over half of there shots are three pointers like Reggie Miller, and Mo Pete. Also there are players who game in and game out put up 10+ 3 pointers like Baron Davis, T-Mac, and Walker(last year). 2-3 three point attempt by a player I feel are the most they should take a game. Of course this will vary a bit given the situation of the game.

Does anyone agree with me?
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Postby Amphatoast on Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:35 am

to some degree, I agree with you, but the 3 point shot is exciting too, hit a few 3's in a row and bam you got a new ballgame going. Some should shoot more than 2 to 3 per night like Reggie ( isn't the 3pointer his reputation?), Ray Allen and Peja ( we all know about those freaks) but some like t-mac they don't have a choice, right now magic offense sucks and they need the 3s to stay in games. 3s are good but you are right, some like Walker and Baron need to stop jacking them up cuz they do have other skills that can get a easier shot.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:23 pm

Amphatoast wrote:Reggie ( isn't the 3pointer his reputation


It was...
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Postby Alex Italo on Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:06 pm

3 pointers are a valid weapon for any team... when well used.
I think any player with over 40% 3PtFG% should shoot as many 3's as he could...
the problem is that too many players that are just average (sometimes erratic) shooters think they are really good... take Antoine Walker, Baron Davis or Jamal Crawford as example.

Would any coach limit the shots of a star 3pt shooter as Peja? I don't think so. In a extreme example, if you don't shoot 3 pointers, the opposing team has no reason to guard your players far from the basket... so your players will have more difficulty inside the perimeter.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:24 pm

Baron is actually a pretty good three point shooter, its just his decision making in what three's to take.

He also seems to like to take three's from about 3 feet behind the arc at times, I don't understand his logic.

Antoine is just not that good a shooter and likes to chuck em. Crawford is above average, but also just likes to chuck em up.
Tmac chucks a lot up too.
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Postby Alex Italo on Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:06 pm

fgrep15 wrote:Baron is actually a pretty good three point shooter, its just his decision making in what three's to take.

He also seems to like to take three's from about 3 feet behind the arc at times, I don't understand his logic.

Antoine is just not that good a shooter and likes to chuck em. Crawford is above average, but also just likes to chuck em up.
Tmac chucks a lot up too.


Actually, Baron and Antoine have the same carrer 3PtFG%: 32.7%, what is IMHO just average. Maybe Baron could be a better shooter if he just shot near the line as you said it. The shots that Davis takes far away from the basket seems to be just a show off.
Crawford has a better 3PtFG% in his carrer (over 34%) but is in his worse year - probably because now he's the Bulls main scorer. Anyway, he's not that impressive either... too many questionable shots. That was what I meant when I said erratic.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:53 pm

I think it depends on the situation. If a player is shooting 1/10 from downtown in a game, he should probably attempt higher percentage shots and/or look to pass to a teammate who is having a much better game at the offensive end. On the other hand, some players are capable of hitting 4 or 5 threes if they're given 6-8 attempts, so if they're falling there's no need to immediately stop at 2 or 3 attempts.

It is a poor strategy to simply fire up three pointers every possession, and some players should certainly be encouraged to pick and choose when they attempt three pointers. I think if a team or player has the ability to hit a lot of threes, they should use it to their advantage. It isn't cheap to take advantage of your strengths when planning your strategy; some players simply need a little more discipline when it comes to shooting from beyond the arc.
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Postby Full Surface on Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:04 am

Arenas hit 8 three pointers in a game against the Lakers. It was crazy.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:38 am

The way the league is going today, with 7+ foot big men, sometimes its easier to shoot a 3 than go inside and get destroyed. Look at AI. He goes in and battles with the bigmen and plays through injury almost every game. I guess some players aren't really wanting to risk it all for the teams.

But sometimes you just happen to be on from downtown, like Kobe and Spree last year, Q, T-Mac, and Arenas this year. And seeing how the NBA has become a Defense oriated(spl?) game, you have to find a way to get points, and sometimes a 3 is quicker. There are players that take too many, though.
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Postby Colin on Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:21 am

Alex Italo wrote:
fgrep15 wrote:Baron is actually a pretty good three point shooter, its just his decision making in what three's to take.

He also seems to like to take three's from about 3 feet behind the arc at times, I don't understand his logic.

Antoine is just not that good a shooter and likes to chuck em. Crawford is above average, but also just likes to chuck em up.
Tmac chucks a lot up too.


Actually, Baron and Antoine have the same carrer 3PtFG%: 32.7%, what is IMHO just average. Maybe Baron could be a better shooter if he just shot near the line as you said it. The shots that Davis takes far away from the basket seems to be just a show off.
The reasons that those percentages are the same is because Baron wasn't a very good 3pt shooter his firt couple of years, and this year he shoots way too many. If he's having a bad night he just keeps shooting them until he makes one, then he must thinks he's hot and he keeps shooting. Antoine Walker really is a bad 3pt shooter, he bricks wide-open threes all the time, the kind Baron makes easily.
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