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Postby DipSetVC on Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:59 am

He might be able to, but what good is 30,000 career points without any championships? I hope your happy when he ditches Orlando after next season.
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Postby Amphatoast on Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:50 am

obvious choice would be "Maybe if he has no injuries or kinda"
if you picked "No problem for him" then you need to take a look at the guy who was suppose to help Orlando be a serious contender, your Lebron-like numbers player, Grant Hill.
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Postby . on Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:09 am

If he stops kicking balls to the stands, maybe he can achieve it. Hes only like what? 24 years old, that means he still has some good 10 years in his NBA career, if he chooses to keep playing untill hes physical done. Both LeBron and Kobe can also achieve this if injuries or off-court issues wont bother them
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Postby Matthew on Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:48 am

I hope your happy when he ditches Orlando after next season.

Thats abit off topic.. but i guess raptor fans know the feeling :)

I agree with what kobe4mvp said, he has a great opportunity as he is in his prime and will only get better for the next 8 or 9 years before he starts to decline, unless if he gets injured. Lebron probably has the best chance tho, becuase he's come into the league nba ready and there is a good chance he will reach 10 000 by his 4th season, when he will be what? 22? thats crazy when you think of the potential he has.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:04 am

Lebron in 4 years, I dunno, thats kinda pushing it, well depending on what he averages, but his chances of doing it aren't really that high.

Lets say he averages 21 this year, and plays the rest of the games so he plays 80 games total, he'll score 1,680 points. Then if the next three years he averages 27 ppg and plays all 82 games, he's still only at 8,322 points.

Even if he averages 30 ppg the next three years, he'll still only be at 9,306 points.

To get to 10,000 points after his 4th season, he'll have to average 34 ppg for the next 3 years, while playing all 82 games (he can miss 1 game combined for the three seasons). That will give him 10,044 points, if he misses a game, he will be at 10,010, if he misses more than one he doesn't make it.


A better assumption would be in about his 5th year, if he averages 27 ppg the next four years, then he will reach it when he's about 23.
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Postby DipSetVC on Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:23 pm

NBA_Fan_23 wrote:
I hope your happy when he ditches Orlando after next season.

Thats abit off topic.. but i guess raptor fans know the feeling :)


You know it will happen, he left Toronto to be "The Man", now he's going to leave Orlando for a championship...
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Postby Stevan on Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:36 pm

Lebron in 4 years, I dunno, thats kinda pushing it, well depending on what he averages, but his chances of doing it aren't really that high.

Lets say he averages 21 this year, and plays the rest of the games so he plays 80 games total, he'll score 1,680 points. Then if the next three years he averages 27 ppg and plays all 82 games, he's still only at 8,322 points.

Even if he averages 30 ppg the next three years, he'll still only be at 9,306 points.

To get to 10,000 points after his 4th season, he'll have to average 34 ppg for the next 3 years, while playing all 82 games (he can miss 1 game combined for the three seasons). That will give him 10,044 points, if he misses a game, he will be at 10,010, if he misses more than one he doesn't make it.


A better assumption would be in about his 5th year, if he averages 27 ppg the next four years, then he will reach it when he's about 23.

Don't forget though, if the Cavs get deep into the playoffs (LOL yeah right) in the next 3 years, that could bump up his totals a fair bit...
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:52 pm

They don't count playoff points in the totals, just regular season points, so it wouldn't matter anyways.
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Postby Matthew on Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:04 pm

I stand corrected hehe.. but even if it takes him till his fithf or sixth season, he will be in better shape than kobe or tmac to reach the 30 000 platau..
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Postby Bill Russell on Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:08 pm

I think 20.000 is very likely for T-Mac... I dunno about 30.000, let's see about his injuries...

St. James will score around 45.000...
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Postby Nel on Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:06 pm

20-25,000 pts is the most realistic...
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Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:29 pm

It depends how long he can play, and whether he'll maintain a high scoring average throughout his career. The four players who have scored 30000 points have career points per game averages that exceed 24 ppg. They each played at least 13 years in the NBA. These factors account for their incredible scoring milestones.

I'd be inclined to suggest T-Mac won't reach 30000. Just because he entered the NBA at a much younger age doesn't necessarily mean he'll end up playing around 25 years in league. The same goes for Kobe Bryant. Entering the NBA at a young age does mean the wear and tear of the NBA schedule starts taking its toll at an earlier age.

On the subject of T-Mac and the all-time scoring leaders, he needs 26396 points to break the top ten. There's a good chance he'll amout around 23000 points when it's all said and done, which would place him in the top 20. I think that's definitely a possibility, but I don't think he'll be top five.
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Postby hmm on Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:45 am

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Postby Jackal on Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:00 pm

Psycho Jackal Over @ .Org wrote:McGrady, will be 25 this year on May 24th. Say McGrady playes another 10 seasons in the league. (Which is already being very optimistic given his back problems.)

Say he averages 25 ppg over the next 5 seasons (playing every game)

5 seasons x 82 games = 410

410 games x 25 points per game would give him a total of: 10.250 points.

After five seasons, he would be around thirty, most players start declining in this period. So, we'll be optimistic to say he averages 20 points per game.

Out of the 10 seasons, we have 5 seasons left, in his first 7 seasons (10.003) + simulated 5 seasons (10.250) that would give him: 20.253 points. 20.253 points in 12 years.

Ok, now to the remaining 5 seasons:

Since we are 5 years ahead, this would make Tracy around 30 years old. Given his acrobatics, and his bad back, I'll say plays 75 games per year in his remaining 5 years.

5 x 75 = 375

375 games x 20 points = 7.500 points total.

20.253+7.500= 27.753 points in a 17 season NBA Career.

17 years? Scoring those many points, playing those many games? Even with me being this optimistic about his health and amount of years in the league, he still wouldnt reach 30.000 points.

Ofcourse people will say, those are predictions, and T-Mac could prove me wrong and score 30 something points over the next 10 years orso, but realistically seen, it ain't happening. Not soon, not ever.

There is a chance for him to reach 30000pts.


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If he continous scoring like this he could do it!


You really expect him to keep scoring like this? If he wants a championship, he wont.

Edit: Last but not least, I forgot to mention that the league keeps getting slower and slower. (Thnx Stat King (Y))

Like Ben said, he would have to average 24.4 points per game over the next ten years, playing every single game, given his bad back...pssht..there are limits to optimism.
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Postby New School # 23 on Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:24 am

I hope he will do that but who knows,it depends how long he can play in the L-injuries etc..
Most realistic is 25 000 pts or smth.
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