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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby mp3 on Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:33 pm

After seeing that the people making the "Finding Big Country" doc that aired on YouTube last year were on Twitter and striking up a conversation with them about there good work I decided to rewatch it however it's completely disappeared off the internet.

The producer has informed me that's because there In early stages of selling it to ESPN so can't be mad really I guess if it's going to be seen by a wider audience
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:09 pm

It is annoying when that happens, but yeah, you can't begrudge them for making money and getting more exposure like that. I'm sorry I missed it, but at least it'll be coming back at some point from the sounds of it.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Jeffx on Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:36 pm

Andrew wrote:I miss the variety. The downside to focusing on analytics, efficiency numbers, and whatnot, is that teams are trying to play the same way, believing it to be the mathematically proven "correct" way to win. Not only does that philosophy have no safety net for when the threes aren't falling - such as when the Rockets missed 27 of them in a row - it's also most effective with players that not every team has, and can't just acquire. The clash of styles, the different gameplans, is what made older eras exciting as much as anything else. It wasn't an homogenised style of play across the league.


Andrew, MSG recently showed Game 7 of Knicks/Heat from the 2000 playoffs, the game where Mourning whiffed on a steal, and Ewing dunked on him. That's what I miss...tough, physical play, genuine hatred between the teams and EVERY basket had to be earned.

That series also marked the beginning of the end for the Knicks....the following season, they lost to Toronto in the opening round, and it's been downhill since.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:26 am

The Curse of the Ewing Trade.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby mp3 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:00 am

Sad times after such a beautiful playoff run, Houston's game winner, Larry's 4 point play and getting to the finals but it's been downhill since.

I remember watching the Heat game 5 late and staying at my dad's just so I could watch it and when the shot finally fell I was screaming my head off in joy... it was 3.30am... my dad was not happy that night... and I had work at 7am too lol

Yeah Andrew I can't complain about them making some money for there work as it is a well put together show, no Jordans the last dance but still at least I can say I watched it when they tested the water with it and was able to give them positive feedback at the time
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Jeffx on Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:05 am

mp3 wrote:Sad times after such a beautiful playoff run, Houston's game winner, Larry's 4 point play and getting to the finals but it's been downhill since.


2000 was good...at least they made it to the conference finals, but nothing remotely close since then (except for a brief flash in 2012-13, but that turned out to be fools gold).
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby mp3 on Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:25 pm

It's crazy to think back to 2013 in the driving for that sent us home from the playoffs... Roy Hibbert

To be fair he was one hell of an old school rim protector.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Jeffx on Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:13 pm

mp3 wrote:It's crazy to think back to 2013 in the driving for that sent us home from the playoffs... Roy Hibbert

To be fair he was one hell of an old school rim protector.


It didn't help that Tyson Chandler came up small in that series.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:51 am




All these years I never knew that it was Ben Wallace that got dunked on lol
benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

velvet bliss wrote:Andrew, you the real MVP.

Andrew wrote:He who flops and flails to the Finals and a title, flops and flails best.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby cavs4872 on Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:34 am

This is like a layup for LeBron.

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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby deihatein on Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

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Young Dirk at it's best.
shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

End of any racist discussion.


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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:51 am

Remembered this old favourite from the 1998 season.

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Just the way they drew it up.
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Re: Classic NBA Video and Discussion Thread

Postby benji on Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:56 am

Hello friends, during our beloved virus they put out PBP data back to 1996-97, so I decided to pop the older years into my stats garbage and this eventually led to me putting all the years in and then getting a free slow webhost to put this up that I'm updating from time to time: http://benjistats.rf.gd/
mirror: https://benjistats.000webhostapp.com/

The MVP Rating is not a measure of who the best player is/was, but rather an attempt to measure who was most valuable to their team. i.e. Larry Bird is "reduced" by the presence of Robert Parish and Kevin McHale on many of the teams so he never wins one. My beloved "God Damn" Dantley wins a few because Utah was pretty much garbage outside of his amazing scoring. Jordan threads the needle between these two extremes and thus racks up a bunch of them, same with Wilt and Kareem. Some of them are surprising to me (Shaq) and others are not (Buck Williams finishing second) and it's been overall amusing to see the old timey stats in my more current models especially Wilt breaking nearly everything when he scored 50ppg and then again when he shot 73%. Also the lack of turnovers making my rotation-possession model completely useless for trying to project win-loss records for fantasy rotations before 1978.

Also been watching 1970s games on YouTube, and after getting past the triggering effect of no three point line on the court, I started getting triggered by the fact that nobody would shoot from out there even when wide open. Not even people who could shoot perfectly fine from out there like Rick Barry. Everyone just drives into the defense instead and flings up layups from twelve feet out. No wonder the efficiency is so bad despite everyone taking close two pointers. I noticed The Big O decidedly does not do this and instead has a shot profile that looks more like say, LeBron's, which probably explains why his shooting percentage is so high by comparison to nearly every other guard of his era.
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