The Unpopular Opinion Thread

[Mandich]

I don't get why people think Harden is overrated. He is great on offense. Defense is awful, but he is supposedly working hard on it and can only get better.

[shadowgrin]

He's not working hard on it, he stopped working on it.
Thunder Harden tried on defense compared to Rockets Harden who doesn't even bother, that's why Thunder Harden got elbowed by Ron Artest.

[Spree#8]

And till this day I believe Allen Iverson was never a good team player in the first place. He was a great individual player but he just never grasped the concept of team work or sacrifice in his career.

What exactly are you talking about? "Shooting too much" when the second best offensive player on his team was Aaron McKie? Remember that he was taking fewer shots in Denver and there were never any clashes between him and Melo. Hell, even still in Philly Webber's corpse was chucking up 19 bricks from 20 feet per game and Iverson didn't seem to cause any issues.

The team Iverson took to the Finals is probably the most offensively pathetic Finals team of all-time. No legit secondary scorer, no good 3-point shooters (which results in terrible floor spacing and makes AI have less room to operate) and no strong finishers at the rim, either. He deserves a ton of respect for that, but nowadays many people are happy to belittle that with the "weak conference" argument, probably without even noticing that the same thing can be said about almost every East team from 2000 onwards and most of the West teams from the 80s, for instance.

It's not Iverson's fault that his team was ran by one of the most incompetent GMs in the history of this league who completely wasted his prime with horrible move after horrible move. Had AI found himself on an organization like the Lakers or the Spurs instead of the Sixers, his career would have turned out a lot better - team success-wise - than it did.

[[Q]]

And Jeremy Lin just doesn't cut it as a point guard in the NBA.

He will prove you wrong this year

[Mandich]

And till this day I believe Allen Iverson was never a good team player in the first place. He was a great individual player but he just never grasped the concept of team work or sacrifice in his career.

What exactly are you talking about? "Shooting too much" when the second best offensive player on his team was Aaron McKie? Remember that he was taking fewer shots in Denver and there were never any clashes between him and Melo. Hell, even still in Philly Webber's corpse was chucking up 19 bricks from 20 feet per game and Iverson didn't seem to cause any issues.

The team Iverson took to the Finals is probably the most offensively pathetic Finals team of all-time. No legit secondary scorer, no good 3-point shooters (which results in terrible floor spacing and makes AI have less room to operate) and no strong finishers at the rim, either. He deserves a ton of respect for that, but nowadays many people are happy to belittle that with the "weak conference" argument, probably without even noticing that the same thing can be said about almost every East team from 2000 onwards and most of the West teams from the 80s, for instance.

It's not Iverson's fault that his team was ran by one of the most incompetent GMs in the history of this league who completely wasted his prime with horrible move after horrible move. Had AI found himself on an organization like the Lakers or the Spurs instead of the Sixers, his career would have turned out a lot better - team success-wise - than it did.

[Retroswald13]

It's considered the forgotten decade, but I loved the NBA during the 70s. The league had its issues, but there was some great basketball being played, especially by my Knicks from 1970-74 (and a terrific rivalry with the Bullets). You had the '71 Bucks, '72 Lakers, '74 Finals (Kareem hitting an amazing shot), Rick Barry in '75, Dr. J & the ABA, Game 5 of the '76 Finals (most incredible playoff game I've ever seen), Bill Walton spearheading Portland's championship run in '77, and those fun Seattle teams in '78 & '79 with Gus 'The Wizard' Williams, Dennis Johnson & 'Downtown' Freddie Brown.

I would agree to Jeffx that the 70s is a forgotten decade in the NBA. You have the Pistol gunning for 68 points against the Knicks, Game 5 of 1976 Finals, and many more moments. However, why would reporters note that Magic and Bird saved the league when they arrived in '79? Therefore, something is wrong before '79. Also, why would you enjoy 78 and 79 Finals? If I were you, I'll want Gervin vs Thompson, Erving vs Cowens and more fantasy matchups for that decade. The ABA quite ruined things to the NBA with drugs burning the league. Yes, the change of pace changed in the NBA but there will always be a bad image about the 70s that will forever haunt the NBA.

[SoF'nAwesome]

He will prove you wrong this year

The innocence in this post...brought tears in my eyes.

[Stress Fracture]

I wonder if Jeremy will improve this year. He needs the ball to be effective, the reason why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Unless he's the 6th man.

[shadowgrin]

As bad a coach Byron Scott is he does know how to let his PGs play, compared to Kevin McHale who only cares about having more big men in the roster. Lin will be fine.

[Kenny]

Back in 2010, I believed Evan Turner should have went first overall.

[Kevin]

I wonder if Jeremy will improve this year. He needs the ball to be effective, the reason why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Unless he's the 6th man.

With KD and Westbrook running the team? I don't think so. OKC's 6th man could be Nick or Adams if Perkins hasn't been replaced.

[Mandich]

I wonder if Jeremy will improve this year. He needs the ball to be effective, the reason why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Unless he's the 6th man.

With KD and Westbrook running the team? I don't think so. OKC's 6th man could be Nick or Adams if Perkins hasn't been replaced.

Wow. Just wow.

[Kevin]

I wonder if Jeremy will improve this year. He needs the ball to be effective, the reason why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Unless he's the 6th man.

With KD and Westbrook running the team? I don't think so. OKC's 6th man could be Nick or Adams if Perkins hasn't been replaced.

Wow. Just wow.

Thanks

[Mad-Raiiden]

I wonder if Jeremy will improve this year. He needs the ball to be effective, the reason why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Unless he's the 6th man.

With KD and Westbrook running the team? I don't think so. OKC's 6th man could be Nick or Adams if Perkins hasn't been replaced.

Jeremy Lin is in the Lakers no?

[Kevin]

OMFG. I thought he meant Jeremy Lamb not Jeremy Lin.... Both are named Jeremy and they both played in Houston and they were both bench players for their teams. (Lin got benched later at the season.)

[Mandich]

I thought he meant Jeremy Lamb not Jeremy Lin....

I know you did but this is fun NHF

both played in Houston

why he didn't do well in his 2 seasons with Houston.

Lamb didn't play a single game for Houston, certainly not 2 seasons.

they were both bench players for their teams. (Lin got benched later at the season.)

No they were not.

Lamb 0 games.

Lin was constantly around 30 mpg(even in playoffs)

Read.

[Kevin]

Lamb didn't play a single game for Houston, certainly not 2 seasons.

Oops, my bad.

No they were not.

Lamb 0 games.

Lin was constantly around 30 mpg(even in playoffs)

Read.

I thought Lin was replaced when that asshole Beverley replaced him because of his defence?

[Stress Fracture]

Lin got demoted to the bench when Beverley arrived, which was supposed to be a good thing.

[shadowgrin]

Lin got demoted to the bench

Because Harden is a punkass bitch that bitches and doesn't follow the play when he doesn't get an iso.
Harden and Howard are perfect for each other.

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[NovU]

Outlook on Lakers Lin isn't that great. It's kinda hard to shine when you're a point guard alongside ball heavy shooting guards. They take away so much of your job and space, you're left with only little to become a role player.

[[Q]]

It's kinda hard to shine when you're a point guard alongside ball heavy shooting guards. They take away so much of your job and space, you're left with only little to become a role player.

Sooo just like how it was in Houston?

[NovU]

Yes. Beverley had qualities as a role player so he started. But Lin was the better player with more to offer. I personally think McHale is overrated for the job he's done with his team.

Like Harden, Kobe's also a ball freak and likes to dictate the pace. This is a tricky situation once again for Lin.

[shadowgrin]

Except Kobe will shout at Lin to give him the ball, direct and straight to the point, unlike Harden who passive-aggressively bitches to a corner and not give a shite.

[NovU]

I don't know which is worse. Listening to a player who's been labelled consistently uncoachable or to play aggressive passive bitch.

So how do you think Lin will fare as a Lakers then?

[shadowgrin]

As bad a coach Byron Scott is he does know how to let his PGs play, compared to Kevin McHale who only cares about having more big men in the roster. Lin will be fine.