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Postby benji on Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:19 am

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Because I tried putting a 400k (but well within 80x80 diameters) animated .gif of the greatest dunk contest dunk I have seen. But as it was uploading to the NLSC, I closed the connection. So it's accessing a file that doesn't exist on the server. I haven't changed it because I like my broken image...broken...like our hearts would have been had the Spurs not prevailed against Evil.
Lakers WILL be back. :lol:

back in the lottery...
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:52 am

Keep wishin bout them in the lottery Benji :wink: ...maybe if you try hard enuf it might come true hihihi...anyways why start bout the lakers eh...lets see what they can do next year with sum help...Spurs champions...doesnt sound quite wel :P
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Postby Hank on Tue Jun 17, 2003 2:56 am

Lakers WILL be back. :lol:

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Now that's what I'm talking about :D
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Postby . on Tue Jun 17, 2003 3:32 am

back in the lottery...


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Postby Rens on Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:46 am

If Shaq retires they will. The Lakers' depth is among the lowest in the league.
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Postby . on Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:13 am

I believe Kobe is on that squad aswell, and hes getting better and better..we dont know how he will end up when Shaq retires.
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Postby Steve04 on Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:14 am

I agree, even with Kobe the Lakers role players are horrible and we all saw what they would be like with no Shaq.

But I also find it amusing that everyone who was wishing for a non-laker finals thought this one sucked so much because it had no offense.
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Postby benji on Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:31 am

gamewiz wrote:But I also find it amusing that everyone who was wishing for a non-laker finals thought this one sucked so much because it had no offense.

I didn't think this one sucked...
Kobe4mvp wrote:I believe Kobe is on that squad aswell

Not that it matters...without Shaq the Lackers are only better than the Nuggets and maybe the Clippers...consider that the Rockets can only get better to replace Utah in the playoffs...then Seattle, Golden State and Utah still have better teams 2-12 than Los Angeles...
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:16 am

gamewiz wrote:I agree, even with Kobe the Lakers role players are horrible and we all saw what they would be like with no Shaq.


Three years ago people were raving about the role players; Horry, Fox and Fisher...Now that they've aged...everyones dissin em...It's just a matter of time and a little bit of cap room, that the lakers will have a new batch of role players to support their 2 superstars. :roll: It's a cycle hasnt anyone noticed?...Look at the bulls now...they're not that good...after Shaq's gone..they will be down a couple of years...but like the bulls rite now they too will rebuild, I can say with confidence that the bulls will be quite a team 2-3 years down...behind Curry and Chandler. That is if the managment can keep these 2 young stars together. Well the same goes for the Lakers...why are we talking about when Shaq retires, dont worry bout that, thats in the future...rite now all we shud be thinking about it how Shaq & Kobe will lead the Lakers to their fourth championship with a bit of help. :wink:
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Postby Steve04 on Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:25 am

Exactly, with a bit of help....from whom? they have virtually no cap room and whether you like it or not those OLD role players have aged quite a bit thanks to the managements lack of forsight to bring in the role players replacements while the role players were still good.
And this is the same management your depending on to get some help for Shaq and Kobe? I think with Shaq and Kobe and the squad they have not they are a good playoff team. but they need some help or the current players are really going to have to step it up this offseason.

And another thing, forget this talk of the Spurs becoming another Dynasty unless the Spurs develop some sort of killer instinct. Because this series they played horrible considering New Jersey's awful play/Coaching and New Jersey fans have to be kicking themselves in the teeth because of the blown chance to steal an NBA Title.

I have one question to ask of Byron Scott....

Why were Kittles and Jefferson sitting on the bench when you needed Kittles scoring most, and Jeffersons aggressiveness?
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:43 am

I agree Gamewiz...the role players are aging....but just because they are ageing it doesnt mean they will be a lottery team according to Ben :roll:....I still think they can sign one free agent...but I'll keep those opinions to myself...Lets just wait and see till the Offseasons over. I just wanted Ben to open his eyes...and see that its not possible that the lakers will be a lottery team in the coming year :roll:

I still stand by my opinion that if Scott would have played Mutumbo more on TD the outcome of the games would have been different. :wink: But what's the use in moping about that now. :?:
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Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:25 am

it doesn't surprise me this 'spurs vs nets' thread turns into lakers talk lol.

and it doesn't surprise me lakers fans are coming out of the woodwork proclaiming the lakers will be back in the finals

enough food for the troll already..

it's irrelevant how the spurs played in the finals, they are this years nba champions. it almost seemed like the stars were aligned for this to happen:
*marbury suffers a shoulder injury in the suns/spurs series
*fox misses most of the lal/spurs series, george's injury limits his play
*the kings, who probably would give them their toughest challenge, lose webber to injury. this allows them to play a lesser foe in dallas
*the diggler misses the last few games in the mavs/spurs series
*martin gets thr flu
in no way are these excuses to why they won. they earned what they got...

considering that the core players will be coming back for next season (minus the admiral) and the spurs have the cash to bring in a stud FA, Dynasty talk doesn't seem unrealstic at this point. their chances are good at least to repeat
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:01 am

Actually, the Spurs are still rebuilding next year like they were this year...Steve Smith is retiring, Kevin Willis is retiring (I think), the Admiral is gone, Kerr is retiring (I think), Danny Ferry might retire...

I don't think the Spurs need Kidd, what with TP's great play in the regular season and solid play in the playoffs and Speedy's emergance (if he resigns), I think they should go after Jermaine O'Neal or save their cap space for Garnett....Olowokandi's a lock, but a frontline of Duncan and O'Neal with Kandi and Rose off the bench would be great...then they have Ginobli, Jackson, and Bowen and they could pick up another swingman to fill out the rotation...

I doubt they'll be as good as they were this year, but they'll still be a good team.
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Postby Steve04 on Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:14 am

Don't forget that S. Jackson is a FA, same with Speedy Claxton.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:25 pm

its not possible that the lakers will be a lottery team in the coming year


To raise a pedantic point, anything is possible. Shaq and/or Kobe could miss most of the season due to injuries sustained in the first couple of weeks of the 2003/2004 season. Anything is possible - but the Lakers in the lottery is not probable. :wink:
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:17 pm

S. Jackson will probably resign...I think he has a team option on his contract, anyway...Claxton will probably resign if the Spurs don't sign Kidd (I actually hope they don't, I'd like to see him stay a Net), and I could actually see him and Parker battling for the starting job next year...

I actually thought of a better pickup than O'neal: Elton Brand. He quietly gets 20 and 10, why not put him next to a guy who gets 30 and 15? :)
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Postby EGarrett on Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:40 pm

if the Spurs don't sign Kidd (I actually hope they don't, I'd like to see him stay a Net),


Now you're talking. Besides...wouldn't Kidd look quite...bad...losing to the Spurs then signing with them over the offseason?

I actually thought of a better pickup than O'neal: Elton Brand. He quietly gets 20 and 10, why not put him next to a guy who gets 30 and 15?


That would actually be good...the only problem is Tim fancies himself a power forward now...and he'd rather just shoot over people then have to work at center, so the Spurs have to sign somebody to play center next to a 7'0" 260 pound four...

I doubt they'll be as good as they were this year, but they'll still be a good team.


Why wouldn't they be? The core of the team is back and more experienced with the exception of Robinson...and they'll get an upgrade at center with whoever they sign. They'll be scary IMO...
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Postby Swoosh on Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:16 pm

Ya know everybody talkin' bout kidd and stuff with the spurs, but what if they do sign a big man or something and as for the pg GP(gary payton); dont forget bout that guy, still posting some great numbers, and he could still do that about or year or three i think(aint he kidd's former mentor?)so that would be great, he could also teach parker the best defense and some other handy tricks :D . And bout the lakers, two words, jerry west, without him it hasnt been the same, besides, hes the one who brought those role players in couple years ago(when they were good) and then it was a smart move but the current management have done a lousy job, sitting on their asses and thinking if we let this team together we will make it :shock: , so far we have seen what the result is :D. GO EAST :P !!!
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Postby Steve04 on Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:36 pm

Duncan is not a 30 15 guy, more like 25 15.....reminds me of Garnett without the support.
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:52 pm

Eh, I'm predicting next year he'll get around 30...should have said that...

Yeah, you're right EG, Duncan does fancy himself a power forward, but he'd still be able to beat centers because that's what a lot of teams put on him...

I'll post more later, gotta go to work.

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Postby Jackal on Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:11 am

gamewiz wrote:Duncan is not a 30 15 guy, more like 25 15.....reminds me of Garnett without the support.


I'm sorry I might have misunderstood...but do you mean...that Garnett is like Duncan...but the difference is that Garnett has support? Plz elaborate.

Sorry if I misunderstood...:oops:
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Postby Steve04 on Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:24 am

I guess that was a terrible sentence ... :wink:

I meant more along the lines of I think Garnett could do what Duncan is doing if he had the supporting cast Duncan had. and I think Duncan would do about what KG does if he had KG's awful supporting cast.

If Duncan had the T'wolves he would be forced to do more of everything and thus be making alot of Triple Doubles like KG.
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Postby Jackal on Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:39 am

Hihihi Thank God that is what you meant...I thought you meant Duncan has a bad supporting cast...and KG has a good one...Sorry :oops:
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