Al Harrington Traded To The Pacers (Dead... Now Alive again)

[Indy]

talk about a pre-mature thread.

More like a premature news report.

[frenchy]

Is the deal dead ??
RealGM says that the Nuggets will try to get AH

[Indy]

Is the deal dead ??
RealGM says that the Nuggets will try to get AH

No, Al is still coming to Indy, Billy Knight just likes to drag things along. Remember how long it took for the Joe Johnson sign and trade to happen last year? He didn't actually get traded to the Hawks untill August 19th, but the deal was reported done about a month before that.

[nets4life]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... deal_dead/

omg omg omg

[Gundy]

Wow. This went from a done deal to a possible deal to a done deal to a no deal. I think he fits best with Minnesota. He could help make the Timberwolves one of the better teams in the Western Conference.

[cyanide]

Its 99.99999999% that Al is heading to the Pacers but Billy Knight is holding out for more.

No, Al is still coming to Indy, Billy Knight just likes to drag things along.

Okay, now explain that!

[jerry]

harrington-odom-kobe

[Gundy]

I doubt Al's gonna like playing with Kobe.

[Indy]

Its 99.99999999% that Al is heading to the Pacers but Billy Knight is holding out for more.

No, Al is still coming to Indy, Billy Knight just likes to drag things along.

Okay, now explain that!

Donnie Walsh fucked everything up. There was nobody left in Al talks except the Pacers and Donnie refused to give up the 2007 1st rounder. Because everything went to a stalemate, Al didn't feel wanted and told the Hawks to move on.

We're headed to the lottery unless Danny, David and Marquis can break out.

Donnie said we have backup plans for the TE, I really hope he can pull something else out of his ass.

On the other hand, none of the rumors about Al have been true so far, maybe this one isn't either.

[_marsal]

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sport ... ngton.html

It's official

[cklitsie]

Just a LMAO will do..

[8-Hype]

On August 13th it says:

And if it doesn’t happen Monday morning, those other options Harrington and his new agent, Arn Tellem, have been talking about the past two weeks become the new reality. The Los Angeles Lakers, New Jersey Nets, Golden State Warriors, Boston Celtics and Minnesota Timberwolves, just for starters, are all ready to swap ideas should the Hawks and Pacers fail to come to an agreement.

And now, on August 19th, they just replaced the Celtics with the Nuggets:

The Golden State Warriors, Denver Nuggets, New Jersey Nets, Los Angeles Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves, all teams that have been in the Harrington mix from the start, have picked up their pursuit of the last high-profile player left on the free agent market.

So what's the matter with that?

[J@3]

Indy you REALLY need an inside source or something, you're starting to look like Rasheed Wallace with these guarantees

[Indy]

Indy you REALLY need an inside source or something, you're starting to look like Rasheed Wallace with these guarantees

I sort of have one, but it wasn't because of him that I guarenteed Al coming to Indy. It was common sense to be sure that Al was coming.

As for these reports that Herb Simon nixed the deal, that is laughable, it wasn't Simon, it was Donnie Walsh.

I think the Pacers may not end up with Al, but may still be involved in the Al trade, whenever that happens. It could be a three team deal, maybe with Minnesota with the Pacers getting Ricky Davis.

[cyanide]

As for these reports that Herb Simon nixed the deal, that is laughable, it wasn't Simon, it was Donnie Walsh.

Are you sure?

I think the Pacers may not end up with Al, but may still be involved in the Al trade, whenever that happens. It could be a three team deal, maybe with Minnesota with the Pacers getting Ricky Davis.

Are you really, really sure?

[ThaLiveKing]

Ricky Davis? NOOOOOO

[Andrew]

I'd say it's par for the course this offseason: more talk than action.

[Matt]

at least there will be less roster editing for NBA Live 07

[kinokong]

lol... i wish that the trade would just get over with.... why can't everything be like live for once and trades get accepted or rejected within 3 days damn.... stern should do something about limiting the time a team can stall on one trade

[Andrew]

I'd say it is already over with since it would seem to be officially a no-go.

[Indy]

Reporting live from Minnesota...

The deal is not dead. Trust me.

[cklitsie]

Trust me.

*scratches head*

[ThaLiveKing]

Reporting live from Minnesota...

The deal is not dead. Trust me.

Whatchu mean? Give us some details

[nets4life]

im pretty sure its dead, indiana fans its time to move on

[ThaLiveKing]

Walsh Says Harrington
Deal Still On Table
By Conrad Brunner
Aug. 21, 2006


The Pacers are still very much involved in discussions about a possible sign-and-trade deal for Atlanta forward Al Harrington, franchise CEO & President Donnie Walsh said today.
Weekend media reports suggested ownership had stepped in to squelch the deal, leading the Hawks to re-open trade discussions with other teams.

"I think we're coming down to it and we'll either get it or we won't," said Walsh. "It's a negotiation – in terms of the trade, in terms of the (contract). We've been negotiating and that takes time. Usually, the press doesn't get wind of that until it gets toward the end. But here it seems like they were in it before we had any understanding we could do a trade with Atlanta and then (reported) definitely that the deal was done or that it was imminent before we even talked to Al's people. You have to understand, there was also a change of agents in all this, so that took some time, too.

"I think it's business as usual, myself. It's gone the way every deal goes for me."

Walsh said co-owners Herb and Melvin Simon have been involved in the discussions, but that has been the norm throughout his career. The difference in this case, he said, has been the public nature of the trade negotiations through ongoing newspaper accounts in Atlanta and Indianapolis.

"The owners always get involved. The owners were involved from day one," he said. "If you think you're giving out $20-40 million packages without getting in touch with the owner, you're crazy. (Herb Simon)'s involvement has always been helpful to me. Look, this guy has made some great deals in his life, so he always brings a wrinkle in that's useful.

"I think he's in support of the deal but within the parameters."

The framework for the deal is in place, Walsh said. What remains is to work out the details of Harrington's contract.

"There have been three stages to this," Walsh said. "The first stage was where there were a lot of teams trying to trade for Al, we had the exception but it looked like they could get more money if they went in different directions so we weren't as involved then. When that got over with and those trades didn't go down, then they started focusing on us. But then we had to deal with Atlanta as to what it would take to make this trade. So that was a negotiation, and that took time.

"We got to the point last week where we kind of understand each other and now we're dealing with Al. It's that simple."

While not divulging details of the negotiations, Walsh said media reports of a 6-year, $57 million deal are little more than supposition based on the Pacers' $7.5 million trade exception. Those figures were reported before Walsh had entered into negotiations with Tellem, which began in earnest last week. Harrington fired his previous agent during the trade talks and hired Tellem, who was required by league rules to wait two weeks before assuming his role as the forward's official representative.

"You're going through stages where the press seems to have things, I think from the players and the agents, because it's in their interest to kind of put it out there," he said. "I know this: we haven't made any statements, and I'm talking about me, Herb and Larry (Bird).

"I just think there's been a lot of misinformation about where this deal was and a lot of suppositions. People had the deal negotiated before we even talked about it. It was pretty easy to look at our exception and say, 'Oh, it's going to be $57 million,' when we hadn't even talked about it yet. I read last week the deal was imminent. Who's telling them that?

"Deals take time. There are negotiations going on. It's no different than any deal we've done other than it's been in the press for a long time. It has not been imminent at any point, and certainly not at the point it was reported to have been imminent."

So what is the status of the deal?

Said Walsh: "It's in negotiation."

Pacers.com