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Postby Jugs on Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:34 pm

SnitchDevil wrote:The hate is so ridiculous that even if Kobe discovers the cure for aids,ESPN will probably be ranting about how long it took him to discover it. (N)


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Postby Abctest123 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:39 pm

cwebbiverson wrote: Just wonder what they say...."Kobe gets 70 but hurt when Dampier punches him in the mouth."

id laugh my ass off if that happened :lol: good job kobe, but he should have played maybe atleast 5 minutes more, but still, 62 after only 3 quarters is still amazing.
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Postby Amphatoast on Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:23 pm

SnitchDevil wrote:Kobe scores 40 = Ballhog
Kobe gets 9 dimes = Stat padding
Kobe shoots less = trying to prove a point

The hate is so ridiculous that even if Kobe discovers the cure for aids,ESPN will probably be ranting about how long it took him to discover it. (N)

Lebron is king!yeah right. :roll:
Time to give props when it is deserved.


lol now that i think of it it is soo true. I been a kobe-hater cause i could not believe how people would keep doing the jordan comparison and some even put him ahead of #23 but i've gained some respect for him since last year. I guess when Kobe scores 40, has 9 assist, and lakers win the hate might end
king james had 41pts/10assist vs miami the other day :wink:
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Postby Metsis on Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:13 pm

When Kobe is that hot as he was in the 62 point game, his team mates were probably giving him the ball and just admiring how well he did...

I have to admit that I don't like Kobe too much and I dislike the guy for not sharing the ball... Like ever...

62 points and 0 assists tells a different tale all together... Dallas wasn't even trying to stop the man... All they could do was to foul him. I'm sure that if there were more pressure on the ball and better defense, he would have gotten some assists and not as many points, but if a shooter gets hot and there's no defense, he'll be shooting it all night long. So actually Kobe did his job and did it well by shooting as much and scoring as much...

But as I said before, this is one single isolated game from a season and does not describe the actual overall game of the Lakers team through the season. The fact is that Kobe can't do this again for probably a long time and thus this is an isolated incident in a season. Much like the T-Mac wonder against Spurs last season...

A GREAT game from Kobe and I hate the guy... If he had had a better defender on him, I'm sure he would have scored less and passed more, but too bad for Dallas that they can't contain him even that much...

If LeBron had done this, well there would still be people that would praise him for doing it and the people that would put him down for it... It's just the way these things go. LeBron has scored 50 in two games and the team has lost both, this should be a lesson for him and KOBE as well. You have to get your team mates involved so you get more consistent results in the long run... Single games might be incredible, but sharing the ball will result in better all around games and more wins in the end than the running one-man-show...

LeBron said that it seems better not to score the 50 points for the team as they have lost those games... And he almost hoped that he doesn't do it again.

What makes LeBron so much superior at this point??? Kobe is at the pinnacle of his career and he is probably reaching his highest points of his career, but LeBron is only 21 years old... LeBron still has a lot of time and potential to improve his game! And that my friends, is the difference. Kobe is on top of his game, but LeBron still has room for growth and that makes LeBron so much more exciting to follow!

I ain't a big Lakers fan, but I blame Kobe for breaking up the dynasty... And the rape court case didn't help improve his image in my eyes either... I blame Kobe for breaking up a tandem that could have won a couple of more titles... This is basically why I hate the guy.
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Postby beau_boy04 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:24 pm

Congratulations for Kobe. It was indeed a great game. He didn't play the 4th quarter just to prevent any injuries. Smart move by Kobe and Phil.
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Postby J@3 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:56 pm

I ain't a big Lakers fan, but I blame Kobe for breaking up the dynasty... And the rape court case didn't help improve his image in my eyes either... I blame Kobe for breaking up a tandem that could have won a couple of more titles... This is basically why I hate the guy.


Yeah, good on you for being your own person and forming your own opinion, while not just believing whatever media trash is printed in an attempt to spit out a few more headlines... oh wait a minute.
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Postby magius on Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:19 pm

impressive game is all i can say, good job. sidenote though.... i prefer lebron every time, no hesitation, no question, the media may be wrong to "bash" kobe, but they are 100% right to praise lebron. and sorry, but just because kobe's not getting the postive media coverage lebron is doesnt mean he's getting "bashed", it just means lebrons getting good media coverage, theres a difference. iverson is having a far better season than kobe and no ones talking about him.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:04 pm

I don't know if it's right to praise LeBron more than it is to praise Kobe given they are both great players, but I prefer LeBron as a player than I do Kobe.

Don't get me wrong, Kobe's great & I love him. (And love to hate him at times, we've got a love hate relationship, piss off.) But LeBron, just the way he plays...the way he handles himself.

Anyways, as I said, I know if it's right or wrong to praise one & not the other given both of them are great, great players. (No, that doesn't mean they're the greatest, don't mangle my words, I'll fong you.)
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Postby J@3 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:10 pm

but just because kobe's not getting the postive media coverage lebron is doesnt mean he's getting "bashed",


So you think Kobe being called a ballhog by the media after pretty much single handedly beating the Mavs wasn't being "bashed"? I do recall LeBron's 50's being hailed as the second coming, despite the team losing. Both times.
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Postby SnitchDevil on Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:56 pm

62 points, 0 Assists, 8 Rebounds. So what if he did not have a single assist. People seem to be forgetting Kobe's role in Jackson's trianlge.

Kobe is at the wing position. A position where he is in attack mode. Unlike in the old triangle with Shaq, Kobe is not tasked to set up his teammates.

Besides, not even God would pass the ball on a night like that.

It just disgusting to see how biased the media are towards Lebron "the next MJ because he scored 50 twice with his team wi...uhh..fuggettaboutit" and how much hate they give Kobe "Ballhog" Bryant. (N)
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"I think he does what he has to do," San Antonio guard Manu Ginobili said. "Of course, there's a difference between 35 and 25 shots, but he's got that ability to make every shot. Even if it's in front of two guys he jumps so high on fadeaways it doesn't matter. He's got so many resources, it's easy for him to take 35 shots. If I was his teammate, I wouldn't care."
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Postby EGarrett on Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:21 am

Jae wrote:So you think Kobe being called a ballhog by the media after pretty much single handedly beating the Mavs wasn't being "bashed"? I do recall LeBron's 50's being hailed as the second coming, despite the team losing. Both times.

A lot of people are disappointed that Lebron is shooting so much this year instead of trying to average triple-double, which used to be one of his goals. But Lebron has demonstrated a willingness to improve his teammates over the last few seasons, in the NBA and high school (when he stood out even more). So he gets the benefit of the doubt.

62 points, 0 Assists, 8 Rebounds. So what if he did not have a single assist. People seem to be forgetting Kobe's role in Jackson's trianlge.

Kobe is at the wing position. A position where he is in attack mode. Unlike in the old triangle with Shaq, Kobe is not tasked to set up his teammates.

I don't buy that. Jordan averaged 8 assists per game one season in the triangle, while still scoring 32...

The thing I don't understand is...if you're going to put up that much...why go out of the game? He might as well have kept jacking and put up something historic. If he had scored 16 in the fourth he'd have had 78. He's not telling the whole truth by saying the game was in the bag. The game was in the bag when he attempted 14 shots in the last 5 minutes of the third quarter. Oh well...that's Kobe.
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Postby J@3 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:28 am

I think it's a sign of maturity. It's the same reason you dribble out the last few seconds of a game when you're up by 20 odd. If he had stayed in the game (and I personally wish he had) he'd probably get bashed moreso for being so selfish and only wanting to pad his stats.
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Postby ixcuincle on Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:57 am

Good point. I would have liked to see him take a run at Wilt's 100 point record (I still can't believe one man scored 100 points in an NBA game? How is that possible?) or at least go for 80. It would have certainly been a huge bang around the basketball world and would give him much more publicity (and much more criticism , ball hog etc). I would have liked to see him set the record for youngest player ever to score the most and shatter some records.
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Postby EGarrett on Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:25 am

And as weird as this sounds...I think that if Kobe had scored 80 he'd have changed his game for the rest of the season.

He obviously wanted to see just how much he could score if he really tried, so leaving him in for the entire fourth would have let him get it all out of his system and put up history so that no one would ever doubt his scoring ability again. From that point on, he might consider the point proven and just play team ball.

I really believe that.
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Postby J@3 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:32 am

It's possible. From what I read Phil gave him the option and he said "what do you think?" so obviously he wanted some guidance on it. He could've quite easily got 80 with the way he was playing. Then again he could've quite easily been injured too.
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Postby Drex on Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:06 am

I would have bitched to Jackson to play the entire 4th quarter if I were Kobe. But since I'm not him, I respect his decision, specially after reading those last posts.
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Postby Fresh8 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:12 pm

This is good momentum builder for Kobe vs. Shaq. :) Shaq said congratulations to him.. one word though. And yes... just making sure, Kobe is not better than MJ. Anyone who thinks he is... must have something wrong with their head right now.
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Postby kinokong on Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:12 pm

word.... kobe leads the lakers to the finals by himself this year and then maybe, just maybe ill say he is better than jordan
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Postby xman on Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:42 pm

why everybody hate Kobe, because he is selfish? Coupel of years ago Allen Iverson was selfish to but nobody hated him so much. Kobe can leed his team to victore if his teammates don´t socre but Lebron is not very good on it if his teammates don´t score.Kobe is much better Buzzer beater...
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Postby Flasher on Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:50 pm

Bwahahahaha. Kobe destroyed the Mavs! Impressive game for him.
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Postby Matt on Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:09 pm

i don't get that hate that Kobe gets. I think 90% of it stems from

1. the breakup of the Lakers
2. the rape case

As far as basketball goes, Kobe is easily the best SG in the league. You can call him a hog all you want but he has a much improved shot selection and he's playing on the most pathetic team in the L.

Yet here he scores 62pnts, Lakers dismantle the Mavs and BALL HOG BALL HOG. What about T-Mac scoring 60+? they lost. LBJ 50+? Cavs lose
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Postby xman on Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:35 pm

Matt wrote:i don't get that hate that Kobe gets. I think 90% of it stems from

1. the breakup of the Lakers
2. the rape case

As far as basketball goes, Kobe is easily the best SG in the league. You can call him a hog all you want but he has a much improved shot selection and he's playing on the most pathetic team in the L.

Yet here he scores 62pnts, Lakers dismantle the Mavs and BALL HOG BALL HOG. What about T-Mac scoring 60+? they lost. LBJ 50+? Cavs lose


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Postby Maaarf on Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:22 am

just_decent wrote:word.... kobe leads the lakers to the finals by himself this year and then maybe, just maybe ill say he is better than jordan

word :roll:
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Postby dada on Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:23 am

ESPN consists of quite an amusing bunch. One day Kobe scores62 and he is called a ball hog and the next day they have an article on Lebron being the 'Heir Apparent' (title being 'How Lebron is better than MJ'). I just think its funny how LJ gets so much more love for his efforts than KB.
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Postby ShAuN on Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:13 am

Jesus u guys, just stfu about Kobe bashers, who cares they dont like him. Im not a huge Kobe fan, but I like him and hes a great player. I know hes not all stats, and I know hes a good guy. Just the thing about him and Shaq, other than that Kobes a great, great athlete. Its a tossup between him and TMac. Its confusing who to say is better, because they both have great nights. But yea Kobe is unbelievable. I wish he played the 4th, that was cool how he said he didnt want to play the 4th, that shows alot of respect for ur teammates and for urself. It also shows hes not all stats. I wish it was a close game so he would have had to play the 4th :P
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