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Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:23 am

Pross wrote:Ntong do you have any friends? Just face it! that trade is not gonna happen... It probably wouldnt even work in live 05 with the flawed trading system.. Get out of your stupid fantasy world.. Who in there right mind would make that trade? Like SERIOUSLY if you were the wolves GM would you make that trade? If you say yes then your messed in the head

I would make that trade, with KG on Wolves lineup, they cant win nothing, is that correct? With KG on wolves lineup, they will always be around .500, because KG is so good that he can single handed carry this team for at least 40 wins., so they never can get a decent draft pick,. Also considering KG's knee problem, I would trade him! There's report saying KG is working out like crazy, if he's not traded, why and why would he working so hard for a team that cannot even make the playoff next season, dont tell me he wants to win the score title, rebound title and block title. Here's the deal, McHale is going to either trade KG or he's getting fired.

Since Wolves cannot win with kg, or they cant even build around KG(bad contracts like Wally, Hudson), they don not have money to get another star play along side with KG, it's like you are losing big money to lose games, Why not just trade KG now, start rebuild, besides the roster I mentioned is a talented young group, so whatever I have said makes sense.
There is a 50 50 chance of the trade will happen by Sep. 30, if Lakers want to use Vlade's contract(that's last day to buy him out), or they donot use Vlade's contract, the trade will happen by Oct 2nd(Kwame can be traded beginning at that day)
this time I am not just saying it's a possible trade, both Lakers and Wolves have sent the paper work to the league office(at beginning I thought it was for Curry...), so just wait and see, but trade sometimes do get shut down at the last second.

The bottom line is Minny and LA has been talking the whole summer, so stop believing Minny wants to keep KG for his whole career.

Just wait and see...

Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:40 am

The Timberwolves are about 6 million over the cap. If they want cap they would trade Wally for Tim Thomas or Penny Hardaway.

Cassell doesn't fit Casey's system, which is more fast break which fits Garnett's game more. He can get the boards and then outlet to Jaric, Hudson, McCants or Carter to start the fast break and then become a finisher.

Garnett wants to spend his career in Minnesota. He loves it in Minnesota and he wants to finish what he started. If he was so upset with losing he would have demanded a trade when we couldn't get out of the first round or he wouldn't have signed the five year extension.

Face it, you want Garnett and you are willing to convince yourself that the improbable is probable. It's quite insane.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:20 am

Do you really think Kobe wants another superstar with him? I think that would be enough to end this talk.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:33 am

Drex wrote:Do you really think Kobe wants another superstar with him? I think that would be enough to end this talk.


With KG, hell ye! Kobe and KG want to play together for years, they have great chemistry together, just watch all previous years' all star game, they played like they have been playing for years, especially in pick n rolls.

I have nothing more to say in this forum, just wait and see..... there IS gonna be a trade between this two teams, and I am 50% sure KG will be part of the deal, you have my word on this! I just cant wait till training camp starts.

Wait, and see.......

Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:14 am

OK, we'll see in the 30th.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:21 am

ntong wrote:
Drex wrote:Do you really think Kobe wants another superstar with him? I think that would be enough to end this talk.


With KG, hell ye! Kobe and KG want to play together for years, they have great chemistry together, just watch all previous years' all star game, they played like they have been playing for years, especially in pick n rolls.

I have nothing more to say in this forum, just wait and see..... there IS gonna be a trade between this two teams , and I am 50% sure KG will be part of the deal, you have my word on this! I just cant wait till training camp starts.

Wait, and see.......


So you are saying you are 50% sure KG is involved in the deal, and 100% sure a trade involving LAL and T-Wovles? why in the hell would the Lakers want to deal th T-Wolves if KG is not involved?? who do they want from the shitty T-Wolves roster?

Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:37 am

Why want Olowokandi and Sprewell.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:31 am

Yeah, Spree wants more than the 2.5 million the Lakers are offering him, so a sign-and-trade might happen for him, but there's no way KG and Wallyworld are included.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:36 am

kevin garnett should not go to the lakers, then the timberwolves are screwed, do not do this trade minnessota, this is probably fake in my opinion, lets see what happens at the end of the off-season

Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:56 pm

just like the lakers getting boozer, right jack haley.. err ntong?

boo on the latrell trade. sign him or leave him be. i dont want it to be another luke-hochever negotiation(dodgers)

Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:37 pm

Garnett doesn't want out of Minnesota and he never has. Yet every month or so someone has to make up an article saying they have "sources" that say he is unhappy.

Apparently, Garnett has been unhappy every month for the past two or three seasons. I don't break a sweat when a new one comes out, especially if it's Laker related.

Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:58 pm

As much as i would love to see KG to LA... It wont happen..

KG to LA is nothing but a pipe dream.

Although, if Kevin Mchale would pull the trigger on a deal that would help the lakers, expect that sick fuck Red Auerbach to rise from his grave to bitchslap Mchale for helping the Lakers.

Stop smoking the pipe ntong. :twisted:

Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:12 pm

ntong wrote:I would make that trade, with KG on Wolves lineup, they cant win nothing, is that correct? With KG on wolves lineup, they will always be around .500, because KG is so good that he can single handed carry this team for at least 40 wins., so they never can get a decent draft pick,. Also considering KG's knee problem, I would trade him! There's report saying KG is working out like crazy, if he's not traded, why and why would he working so hard for a team that cannot even make the playoff next season, dont tell me he wants to win the score title, rebound title and block title. Here's the deal, McHale is going to either trade KG or he's getting fired.


haha so because he is trying to improve his game individually and his team sucks means he wants to be traded? WOW your are even dumber than I thought! I didnt know that was possible.... I would just shut my mouth now if I were you otherwise you might say something even MORE stupid (if thats possible)

Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:22 pm

ntong wrote:If wolves can trade KG for a superstar, they would already done so, why didnt they do anything?


Uh...because they don't want to trade him? Just because it's possible doesn't mean they should, or would.

ntong wrote:Teams like Nuggests, Kings, all can give up some good players for KG, but they already have all theirs pieces together, they donot want to redo what they already done just for KG. So, if KG is getting traded, it will be to LA.


Well I guess if you say so, it must be so. But I'll think you'd be surprised what teams would give up if they had a legitimate shot of getting a superstar player.

Mihm goes to Bulls, not Odom, Mihm gives bulls the defense Scott wants, he can rebound, he can block shot from the weak side, and he plays great at home. Odom, George, Vlade, draft picks and even maybe Kwame goes to Wolves, wolves get young talents, cap space, they can rebuild, so why not just do it?


Because Mihm isn't likely to get any better while Curry has more potential for further growth while already showing signs of being a good centre. The other reason for not doing the trades is that the Lakers are getting a whole lot for nothing. And I don't think NBA clubs are exactly inclined to be that generous when trading...well, most of them at least.

ntong wrote:I have nothing more to say in this forum, just wait and see..... there IS gonna be a trade between this two teams, and I am 50% sure KG will be part of the deal, you have my word on this! I just cant wait till training camp starts.


Historical factoid: The last time a similar guarantee was made, it was "Wizards, 2002 champs. Quote me in June". I'm sure someone will be willing to take you up on that promise. (Y)

IIRC, Moses Malone. Maybe Andrew can give the other details.


Moses Malone was the first. Daryl Dawkins was another one, not sure if he was actually the second though. Spencer Haywood was the first early entry in the Draft opening the door for players to declare before competing their college eligibility.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:01 am

Nice responses Andrew. I think you shut him up finally.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:47 am

Because Mihm isn't likely to get any better while Curry has more potential for further growth while already showing signs of being a good centre. The other reason for not doing the trades is that the Lakers are getting a whole lot for nothing. And I don't think NBA clubs are exactly inclined to be that generous when trading...well, most of them at least.


I guess you havent heard that Curry has heart problem... :shock: :shock: even dumb ass knows bulls will resign curry if he's healthy, he even refuses to take the DNA test. that's why Bulls hasnt resigned Curry yet, Curry said he ll sign the QO (5.4Mil), and walk after next season, so will bulls get any decent center who can defense, blocks shot like Mihm? I dont think so...

As far as the trade I am talking about, I still say, there IS gonna be a trade involves Lakers and Wolves, and that trade will make Lakers fans happy, , and there is 50 50 chance that KG will be part of it, so just wait and see.

Let's say if a team like Nuggests, Kings, is willing to trade for KG, do they have any good players on their rosters that can attract KG to that team? Like I said many times before, the only way to beat Spurs, Heat, Rockets & Pacers is to play along side with KOBE
no more to say till the deal is announced.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:56 am

Where are you getting your sources? How do you know that there will be a trade between the Lakers and Wolves? And better yet, how do you know that there is a 50% chance that it will involve Garnett? Is it your LA sports radio and their "sources" or are you pulling it out of your ass?

I think you know something Kevin McHale, Glen Taylor and Kevin Garnett don't know.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:23 am

The only way that KG gets to the Lakers is that Kobe gets traded to Minessota.
Kobe and KG would eat like 90% of the total salary of the Lakers.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:51 am

funny... i just thought about this. If you traded the whole lakers team ( except kobe) for KG the T'wolves probably still wont be a championship contender

Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:54 am

ntong wrote:
Because Mihm isn't likely to get any better while Curry has more potential for further growth while already showing signs of being a good centre. The other reason for not doing the trades is that the Lakers are getting a whole lot for nothing. And I don't think NBA clubs are exactly inclined to be that generous when trading...well, most of them at least.


I guess you havent heard that Curry has heart problem... :shock: :shock: even dumb ass knows bulls will resign curry if he's healthy, he even refuses to take the DNA test. that's why Bulls hasnt resigned Curry yet, Curry said he ll sign the QO (5.4Mil), and walk after next season, so will bulls get any decent center who can defense, blocks shot like Mihm? I dont think so...

the bulls have taken pretty much every precaution to ensure curry is healthy. the team that's been monitoring him the closest is even hesistant on about letting him play (on a 1yr contract no less). you're an even bigger idiot then i thought if you think another team is going to trade for curry at this point.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:24 pm

ntong wrote:I guess you havent heard that Curry has heart problem... :shock: :shock: even dumb ass knows bulls will resign curry if he's healthy, he even refuses to take the DNA test. that's why Bulls hasnt resigned Curry yet, Curry said he ll sign the QO (5.4Mil), and walk after next season, so will bulls get any decent center who can defense, blocks shot like Mihm? I dont think so...


Yes, I'm aware of it. As air gordon said, his stock isn't very high as a result of it which is one reason why I'm not keen on a trade, the other being I believe he still has potential to live up to - mad as that may seem.

As far as the trade I am talking about, I still say, there IS gonna be a trade involves Lakers and Wolves, and that trade will make Lakers fans happy, , and there is 50 50 chance that KG will be part of it, so just wait and see.


Fair enough, but you're not offering much in the way of concrete evidence. No sources except for the HoopsHype and that doesn't even mention potential deals. If it's just your own speculation, you can be sure it will be questioned.

Let's say if a team like Nuggests, Kings, is willing to trade for KG, do they have any good players on their rosters that can attract KG to that team? Like I said many times before, the only way to beat Spurs, Heat, Rockets & Pacers is to play along side with KOBE


No...but why would the Timberwolves agree to any trade that doesn't favour them when they don't have to? And I hardly think the only way to win is alongside Kobe. If that's the case, the Lakers would've won more than they did.

no more to say till the deal is announced.


As you wish. I'm sure someone will revive this thread at such a time when this rumour can be proven one way or the other.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:15 pm

Damn like more than half of ntong's posts are in just one thread. You keep insisting this will happen but lets be real, even Babcock wouldnt trade KG just like that.

If you really believe every Laker rumour then the team would be having a lineup of something like Kidd - Kobe - KG - Amare - Yao and have a bench of Payton - Wade - Shareef - Boozer - Magloire.

Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:37 pm

If Kobe is all powerful, how come he doesn't win the MVP and NBA championship awards every year??? Lakers didn't even make the play-offs last spring and won't be anywhere nearer come next spring.

Minnesota by getting rid of players like Cassell and Spree, they have done alot... Now they just might have players that are willing to give the ball to KG to control the offensive flow instead of trying to do that themselves.

Minnesota will be a play-off team next spring... Without two injured and one selfish veteran on the roster, the TEAM will once again be more like a TEAM. Now, Minnesota roster looks more like the Spurs roster than before... They have the dominant big guy who can do everything and they have a nice supporting cast to surround and support the big guy...

Why would anyone want to play with Kobe??? He would be the last guy I'd pick if I had my choice of all the superstars in the league today. He just simply gives no respect to anyone and thus does not deserve any him self. Crazy Rapist Ball Hogging guy is the last guy I'd want to play with...

ntong clearly has forgotten that basketball is still a TEAM game... Why didn't the lakers win the title with three all-stars lined up with Kobe against a team that has no super-stars??? Detroit had a better TEAM! Lakers had great individuals, but a bad team... Some teams play better than the sum of their parts and some play worse than the sum of their parts.

Think of an engine... Every part needs to know their job and do their job for the engine to work. It's the same with the team... Sam and Spree's jobs were to get the ball to KG and they didn't deliver... So you replace them with players that are willing to do the job.

You can always argue that Cassell is so much better than Jaric and you are true, but if Cassell can't/won't give the ball to KG and Jaric will, Jaric will always be a better fit for Minnesota... Minny knows they've got the best player in the league and they won't let him go for nothing, which ntong you are clearly suggesting.

Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:48 am

The thing about Kevin Garnett and Flip Saunders' Minnesota Timberwolves teams are that they always overachieved. The team had little talent but they made it up with hard work and team work. Last year, they didn't have that and fingers started to get pointed.

This team looks more like the teams of the past and I'm expecting playoffs this year. Especially if Garnett comes back better than ever.

Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:44 am

As an avid Kobe/Lakers fan I hope this happens, but like others have said it is highly unlikely. While most of you have made valid points as to why and how it will happen I highly doubt if it does. I can see why the Lakers would want to do this though. They were trying to stay under the cap for players like Yao (signed extension), Amare (about to sign extension) and players of that stature they see that they have no hope of using the money to sign someone so it makes since to try and trade. Their pieces just aren't that attractive to other teams though. I think they have a solid roster right now with players that just need to prove themselves. Given Phil's track record I hope he and Kobe come together to build some chemistry. Just my 2 cents
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