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Postby Ataraxia on Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:13 am

Manu is overrated....hes nothin more than a good role player....he would struggle if he was asked to lead a team.....hes inconsistant aswell.

J-Rich owns Manu when it comes to the talent factor and star tag.

Im not suprised Jona's saying that though, Manu's huge in South America....he wracks up prolly almost all the votes that come from South America just like Yao does in China and parts of Asia....I guess this year lots more ppl in South America purchased computers and got themselves connected to the internet. :)
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:14 am

It's not my fault GS doesn't have REAL star players.


True. Not yet, anyway...

Then, why is Manu hitting 1.3 3s at 38%?
Manu attempts 3.5 while Richardson attempts 5.3 per night.
Quite a difference, huh?



I think the question was whether J-Rich had 3-point range or not, and not which is the best shooter... And 1.8 3s a game make for a 3-point range...


Nah, you're just jealous GS doesn't have a real supastar.
You would LOVE to have Manu in there, wouldn't cha teammate?


You're really taking this seriously, aren't you?
If I were to choose between JR and Manu for the SG position in the Warriors, I'd take no 23 without a second thought. If I was picking for theSpurs, I'd keep Manu. :wink:
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Postby Jona on Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:55 am

You're really taking this seriously, aren't you?

Nah, not really :P

You'd REALLY prefer JR Smith over Ginobili in the SG spot??????????? :shock:
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Postby Ataraxia on Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:02 am

Jona wrote:
You're really taking this seriously, aren't you?

Nah, not really :P

You'd REALLY prefer JR Smith over Ginobili in the SG spot??????????? :shock:


JR = Jason Richardson :wink:

Id prefer JR Smith over Manu anyday but thats my bias speakin........ :P

JR Smith = Mega Talent
Manu = Overrated
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:51 am

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Leave Manu alone, he's still much better than mr JR I can't play defense, rebound or pass, and I got yanked out of a game because I had a bad attitude, and wasn't putting effort on defense :P

Respect the game JR, respect the game...
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Postby Ataraxia on Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:58 am

fgrep15 wrote:^
Leave Manu alone, he's still much better than mr JR I can't play defense, rebound or pass, and I got yanked out of a game because I had a bad attitude, and wasn't putting effort on defense :P

Respect the game JR, respect the game...

hes 19...while Manu is like 40 years old. :roll:

Plus Byron Scott is a drama queen....just cause he cant coach properly he makes a big issue outta it. :roll:
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Postby J-Rich Fan on Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:30 am

J-Rich is much better then Manu, J-Rich's defenseive game is'nt where he wants it to be yet, but when it gets there, hes going to be an AllStar. As for Manu, hes a good role player, he has better defense then J-Rich, but thats it, if it wasnt for Tim Duncan Manu wouldnt be anywhere, he is very overrated.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:37 am

I was talking about JR Smith, not Jason Richardson, but I don't agree to J-Rich being much better than Ginobili, if better it's marginal, but I'd still give Ginobili the edge.

NJ I deliberately did that because I know how much you love your boy Smith lol
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Postby J-Rich Fan on Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:53 am

fgrep15 wrote:I was talking about JR Smith, not Jason Richardson, but I don't agree to J-Rich being much better than Ginobili, if better it's marginal, but I'd still give Ginobili the edge.

NJ I deliberately did that because I know how much you love your boy Smith lol

I was talking to everyone in general that said Manu is better
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Postby Ataraxia on Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:27 pm

fgrep15 wrote:I was talking about JR Smith, not Jason Richardson, but I don't agree to J-Rich being much better than Ginobili, if better it's marginal, but I'd still give Ginobili the edge.

NJ I deliberately did that because I know how much you love your boy Smith lol

:P

he scored 33 pts against the Grizzlies.....6-9 from 3 PT range...screw Byron Scott....he doesnt no shit. :crazy:
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:43 pm

The guy can flat out score, as he learns to get to the line, put the ball more effectively, and improve his all-round game, he'll be real good. I don't see him as an all-round player in the likes of Tmac, Kobe, Pierce, Ray, Vince etc, but 20-4-4 is what he'll likely be doing.
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Postby matmat8 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:59 am

The Warriors should go for Dalembert and get rid of Dunleavy for something. Also give more PT to Pietrus.
Im on the bandwagon :headbang:
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Postby XianeX on Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:07 pm

matmat8 wrote:The Warriors should go for Dalembert and get rid of Dunleavy for something. Also give more PT to Pietrus.
Im on the bandwagon :headbang:


Please, jump back off; Warriors fans have a good reputation around the league and bandwagoners can't help us keep that.

That being said, Sam Dalembert isn't even a great fit for the Warriors. While he is a young, athletic center with a decent offensive and defensive arsenal, he is not the true low-post presence we need. I am judging him off of what I have seen of him, I could be completely wrong but he hasn't impressed me with any low-post moves/skills.

The Warriors shouldn't get rid of Dunleavy. While he has not yet fulfilled to his #3 overall pick, he has been a solid contributor and has helped our all-around game, giving us defense, passing ability, court vision, rebounding and scoring. There's not much more you could ask for from Mike Dunleavy.

I do agree that we should give more minutes to Mickael Pietrus because he is the type of player who will make mistakes but make up for it in his minutes. I'm impressed with him.
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Postby matmat8 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:33 pm

XianeX wrote:Please, jump back off; Warriors fans have a good reputation around the league and bandwagoners can't help us keep that.


Ha :lol: I do what i want my friend and what the hell are you talking about when you say reputation?

That being said, Sam Dalembert isn't even a great fit for the Warriors. While he is a young, athletic center with a decent offensive and defensive arsenal, he is not the true low-post presence we need. I am judging him off of what I have seen of him, I could be completely wrong but he hasn't impressed me with any low-post moves/skills.


Dalembert can play D that's all but that's what Golden State needs. Troy Murphy can score inside.

The Warriors shouldn't get rid of Dunleavy. While he has not yet fulfilled to his #3 overall pick, he has been a solid contributor and has helped our all-around game, giving us defense, passing ability, court vision, rebounding and scoring. There's not much more you could ask for from Mike Dunleavy.


Dunleavy sucks. Poor defender, rebounder, athletism...and so on. He can't even shoot 3's anymore.

I do agree that we should give more minutes to Mickael Pietrus because he is the type of player who will make mistakes but make up for it in his minutes. I'm impressed with him.


Agreed.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:34 pm

Dalembert can play D that's all but that's what Golden State needs


So can Antonal Foyle. he just can't do anything else...
We should probably go after a big man in the draft like Bogut or Splitter.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:58 am

Agent Dweaver99027 wrote:
Dalembert can play D that's all but that's what Golden State needs


So can Antonal Foyle. he just can't do anything else...
We should probably go after a big man in the draft like Bogut or Splitter.

Real fan, ey? Adonal Foyle is garbage imo. He gets 6.5 mil this year, then increases by 800k for the rest of his 6 year contract. He's not even worth near that much. He doesn't do much of anything at all, doesn't have much of an offensive game. It's like he's the 5th player just because GS needs to have 5 players on the court. He's going to hinder the Warriors in the offseason unless GS can figure out a way to trade him.
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Postby XianeX on Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:07 am

matmat8 wrote:
XianeX wrote:Please, jump back off; Warriors fans have a good reputation around the league and bandwagoners can't help us keep that.


Ha :lol: I do what i want my friend and what the hell are you talking about when you say reputation?


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=reputation

matmat8 wrote:
That being said, Sam Dalembert isn't even a great fit for the Warriors. While he is a young, athletic center with a decent offensive and defensive arsenal, he is not the true low-post presence we need. I am judging him off of what I have seen of him, I could be completely wrong but he hasn't impressed me with any low-post moves/skills.


Dalembert can play D that's all but that's what Golden State needs. Troy Murphy can score inside.


You obviously have not seen any Warriors game's this season. Adonal Foyle already fulfills our defensive presence at the center spot but fact is, he is a BENCH player not a starter. Murphy can score inside? Ridiculous statement. Murphy is blocked nearly everytime he goes inside, he stays out on the perimeter therefore spacing is messed up and he has a hard time finishing in traffic. Murphy is a respectable player but an inside scorer? No.

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The Warriors shouldn't get rid of Dunleavy. While he has not yet fulfilled to his #3 overall pick, he has been a solid contributor and has helped our all-around game, giving us defense, passing ability, court vision, rebounding and scoring. There's not much more you could ask for from Mike Dunleavy.


Dunleavy sucks. Poor defender, rebounder, athletism...and so on. He can't even shoot 3's anymore.


Poor defender? Since acquiring Baron Davis (and a bit before too), Dunleavy's defense has improved defensively and he's become pretty reliable as a defender. He's not a shut-down defender like Ron Artest but he does a good job rotating and keeping his man in front of him. A poor rebounder? Compared to the likes of Ben Wallace, yes, he is a poor rebounder but most players are. He's a good rebounder who does the smart thing by often boxing out his man (which does not show up on the scoreboard). He's not a great rebounder but he's most certainly not a poor one.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:14 am

Adonal Foyle is garbage imo. He gets 6.5 mil this year, then increases by 800k for the rest of his 6 year contract. He's not even worth near that much.


Exactly. The only way GS is going to get rid of him is only if he decides to retire. So, if you're gonna pay someone 60 million, you must as wel have him on the court contributing on defence. The Warriors need an offensive big man, not another D-only guy who's overweight and overpaid...
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Postby J-Rich Fan on Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:59 pm

Warriors on a 6 Game Winning Streak

Won 9 of the last 10
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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:08 pm

b diddy effect.
i think next year they will replace the kings in the playoff picture..
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Postby COOLmac© on Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:17 pm

and the lakers too :lol:
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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:53 pm

lakers arent in the playoff picture this year
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Postby Keo on Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:30 pm

Wow. Baron Davis with 40 points, 13 assists and 5 rebounds...Golden State beats Houston.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:59 am

Indeed. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=250405009

Baron picks off now exactly where he left off at the end of last season... Provided he stays health, he'll be the leader this team craved for for years...
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Postby dsigns on Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:13 am

I like Dalembert. I think he'd fit in well with the team, he's young and he will bring his defensive presence. The last thing we need is a offensive big man. We are already deep with Zarko, Fisher & Petrius coming off the bench. The great thing is the warriors have 3 draft picks plus a few expiring contracts and that 5 mil exemption from the cliff robinson trade so look for us to get deeper this offseason. Great times to be a true warriors fan.
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