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Best point guard in nba!

jason kidd
21
34%
tony parker
4
7%
derek fisher(lol)
8
13%
somebody else!
28
46%
 
Total votes : 61

Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:58 am

jason kidd wrote:
gloveguy wrote:Stockton is an old dog? Yeah he is now but in his prime? No way...

Payton shoots a better percentage than Kidd and has always so if PAyton misses a lot than Kidd misses all the time...


in his prime he was skinny ghost who only passed the ball!
payton is a cowface.ervin "fat magic "johnson was nothin but fat!
jason kidd is strong, he shoots well,he dribbles well,he can rebound,and he gives very good and efective assists!jason kidd assists is fun to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BY THE WAY JASON KIDD IS GREATEST POINT GUARD IN THHHHHHHHEEEEEEEE WORRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDD!!!!!!!

Well, if Stockton only passed the ball, then how come he once average 17 points AND 14 assists in one season. How come?

Since when does a player have to live up to what society asks them to look like to be a great point guard?...

John Stockton's career averages: 13 ppg, 10 apg, 3 rpg, 2 spg
Jonh Stockton's best statistics year: 17 ppg, 14 apg, 3 rpg, 3 spg

Gary Payton's career averages: 18 ppg, 7 apg, 4 rpg, 2spg
Gary Payton's best statistics year: 24 ppg, 8 apg, 6.5 rpg, 2 spg

Magic Johnson's career averages: 19 ppg, 11 apg, 7 rpg
Magic Johnson's best statistics year: 23 ppg, 12 apg, 6 rpg or 17 ppg, 13 apg, 7 rpg

Jason Kidd's career averages: 14 ppg, 9 apg, 6 rpg, 2 spg
Jason Kidd's best statistics year: 16 ppg, 10 apg, 6 rpg, 2 spg

5 = Magic Jonhson's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

18 = John Stockton's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

47 = Gary Payton's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

61 = Jason Kidd's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:37 pm

guys don't even waste ur saliva arguing with him...he'll just keep saying Kidd is the best player in the whole world and said the all time Slam Magainzine had the wrong ratings and stuff...

Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:27 pm

jason kidd wrote:lol@me kood-what i was thinking?
by the way jason kidd is best point guard of the world!whos better-magic-that fat horse?????
stocton-old dog!
payton-who misses a lot.
steve nash-hair canada cammmmmm ooooon ahhahahahahahha.
tha kidd is the best point guard in nba,he is the best in the world and he is the best pointguard ever :twisted:
BY THE WAY KIDD IS DAMN FAST AND QUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


look would you shutup!! and learn how to bloody spell!!

www.dictionary.com .................GO THERE!!!!! :roll:

and you think Kidd is better than Magic.............HUH look at the rings, Magic lead a team to the championship in his rookie year!! Kidd cant top that, even if he eventually does win a championship.
And no point guard in the NBA is faster than Marbury.

Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:43 am

scub, i understand u getting back at this kid(d) but don't make the real jason kidd an underclass pg all of a sudden, stoudamire better job then kidd, don't make me laugh, no offence but kidd is the top pg right now and he doesn't care bout stats, he wants to win, he makes his teammates better, at least thats what everybody sayin', and he has to shoot cuz kittles is at the least called streaky, jefferson has no jumper, ok he has one but a real ugly one, we saw that in the playoffs, he can finish as one of the best but shooting aint his thign :? , and martin developped wel but against duncan he's just overclassed, so he can't get his shot off all the time, thus kidd has to shoot, but i got to admit maybe to desperately, hoping he will catch fire and shoot the lights out, dont get me wrong, i'm not a big kidd fan or something(defenitaly not from the spamming kidd around here :wink: ), but he is a great player,the best pg at the moment imo

Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 am

to laddas-################## you! :lol:
swoosh you are right kidd is the best at the moment!and he is better than fat magic,skinny ghost,and he´s better than cowface glue(glove)payton!!!!!!!!!



KIDDDDDDDDDDDD RULLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!!!!AND KIDD IS THE BEST POIINTGUARD IN THEEEEEEEEEE WORRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDD!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:23 am

swoosh you are right kidd is the best at the moment!and he is better than fat magic,skinny ghost,and he´s better than cowface glue(glove)payton!!!!!!!!!


if you read his post, he says jason kidd is the top point guard in teh league right now, but magic, john stockton, gary payton and jerry west in ghtere prime are all better than kidd in his prime.

5 = Magic Jonhson's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

18 = John Stockton's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

47 = Gary Payton's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

61 = Jason Kidd's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time


you forgot

8 = Jerry West's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

jason kidd(not the real player) i know everyone is entitled to ther eown opinion but saying jason kidd is the best player ever is like saying Allen Iverson is the greatest player of all time(ranked 53 in SLAM's List) no disrepect to AI but jason kidd is far off being the best point guard ever like AI is being the best player of all time

Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:29 am

slam is only the piece of paper!!!!!it says nothing!!!!!
but face it jason kidd is the best pointguard in nba and the whole world!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:42 am

jason kidd wrote:slam is only the piece of paper!!!!!it says nothing!!!!!
but face it jason kidd is the best pointguard in nba and the whole world!


:lol: jason kidd is one of the best point guards in the nba today but not is all time, name someof his accomplishments compared to like players like oh lets say that fat magic johnson hey?

:wink:

Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:10 am

but he is a great player,the best pg at the moment imo


I know he's great but the best PG at the moment is just cause there are no others or you don't consider all the facts. In the opinion of who does more among all the PGs, he might be the best, but if we want to say who's the best player of all PG, I would easily say Marbury or GP. IMO, Gary Payton is the best out there (maybe together with Marbury), Kidd is younger and is more active but Payton is a PG with better ethics of what a PG is supposed to do than Kidd. Kidd does a job that is not assigned to him (shooting), Kidd wants to do everything like he's playing alone (Something like Kobe), he does make his teammates better cause they have to start running like horses if they want Kidd to pass the ball, if not, Kidd would run all over by himself and miss an easy shot...

In other words, sometimes if you do it all by yourself, you don't get recognition, Barkley was a Sixers player for over 8 years, he did everything there, he got there and played like a monster, he took rebounds, gave assists, scored over 25, blocked shots, got a bunch of steals as well, and never got any recognition but what a great player he was, it wasn't until he went to the Suns where KJ was handling the ball and others were shooting the 3s Barkley was shooting back in phily that he got his recognition as MVP.

During his first year as a Net, Kidd got a really good season there and many were arguing whether he was the real MVP or not, what about this year?, nope. None of us took his job as serious as his first Nets season and maybe he did more than that first year.

he can finish as one of the best but shooting aint his thign


Shooting is not his stuff, Stockton didn't shoot that much but he was effective shooting, and that didn't make others say he was a bad PG, if Kidd knows he doesn't hit the rim when he's shooting, why does he keep shooting? Everyone would say Stockton was just a guy who passes the ball, no he was shooting but he would shoot when he knew he could, if Kidd were that good shooting, I would agree, but Kidd is not Gary Payton, Kidd is not Marbury, Kidd is not a shooter to shoot the ball the way he does.

However, I do understand your point but I still believe Kidd hasn't done anything yet to be named the greatest PG of all time.
Last edited by scubilete on Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:18 am, edited 2 times in total.

Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:11 am

kobes_4real wrote:
jason kidd wrote:slam is only the piece of paper!!!!!it says nothing!!!!!
but face it jason kidd is the best pointguard in nba and the whole world!


:lol: jason kidd is one of the best point guards in the nba today but not is all time, name someof his accomplishments compared to like players like oh lets say that fat magic johnson hey?

:wink:

magic was fat and he is still fat face it!he was like center in pg position! :lol:
but i respect magic johnson assists!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:24 am

Magic wasn't fat then. Are you serious. He might be bigger now but considering his health and that he's retired, he's still probably in good shape. Is it wrong to be bigger than everyone else? No. He could do everything but he was best at the point guard position regardless of his height. He certainly was a bit on the short side for a center but he could also play that. You can't say that he was in a centers body just because he can play it, just like you can't say that he was in a point guard's body just because he can play the position.

How does the opinion of many basketball analysts show nothing. It certainly rules our your opinion. These guys actually know what they're talking about. If they were all like you then they would never have been asked to give their opinion in the SLAM issue. It isn't just a piece of paper.

I actually forgot another guy:

3 = Oscar Robertson's ranking in SLAM's Top 75 Players of All Time

He was also thought of as a point guard sometimes and would average triple doubles in some years. We don't see Jason Kidd doing that ever.

Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:30 am

Someone please do something about this thread...

Jason Kidd is a major asshole... Can't accept someone else's ideas and point of views, and he doesn't contribute posting his own arguments...

(N) for you Jason...

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:11 am

jason kidd wrote:
lebron4mvp wrote:well if john stockton is skinny ghost then jason kidd is fatter ghost who passes the ball and he gets the rebounds only by staying under the basket and the ball just fells in his hands!

lol @your story!!!

MAILMAN DELIVERS!NO JASON KIDD DELIVERS!!!!!! :wink:


i thought that you ignore me!



slam is only the piece of paper!!!!!it says nothing!!!!!
but face it jason kidd is the best pointguard in nba and the whole world!

yeah it's piece of paper like any other magazine but it's the best piece of paper about basketball..and it seems like you dont have any piece of papers cause if you would you wouldnt talk so idioticly!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:21 am

jason kidd is tha best!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:22 am

Andrew quick lock this thread....i sense sum flammatory coming...

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:23 am

(N) :lol: LOL at "Jason Kidd"...LOL :lol: (N)

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:45 am

First of all, tenkjoe kobe4 and second, i agree with ya scub, i feel the same way, and i definately didn't say best pg all time, just right now, imho u just look a lil' too negative at things, but thats ur right, i have always been a person who did give payton enough credit(in my own eyes then :wink: ), and i consider him more as jason's equal, very close followed by marbury but at the moment, especially kidd is the one who gets his team to win, and is the heart of his team, so that makes him in my eyes the best pg at the moment, just sayin that(and no, not if payton wins he suddenly will be better than kidd, he deserves the title, i luv to c him get it, but not this way, just too easy, for gp and malone they should win the title, but i'd rather not see them in ego-lakerland)

Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:58 am

what was new jersey before kidd-nothing!it is proof that jason is good really good.and thats only one fact!

Fri Jul 18, 2003 8:07 am

Tell us 5 others facts then

Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:49 am

we didn't say J-Kidd is bad we just said that he wasn't the best PG of all-time...he is one of the top pg in the league but he is not the best in the history of NBA...or ABA :lol:

Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:16 pm

If everyone hates this guy so much, why are u still posting here?

Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:15 pm

Eddy_02 wrote:If everyone hates this guy so much, why are u still posting here?

because we , well i don't know about the other guys, but i am because i want jason kid, the person in NLSC to realize that his opinion isn't always the right one and also to look at the facts, stats, etc. to see that jason kidd the acually player is not the greatest point guard ever and to listin and accept other people opinions. :)

Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:51 pm

I keep postin' cos I wanna piss on Jasonkidd's blonde hair... :twisted:

Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:37 am

all time top5 pointguards
1.jason kidd
2.jason kidd
3.jason kidd
4.jason kidd
5.jason kidd!!!!!!!!


there is not pointguard like kidd he is very good player he gives assists better than magic-one fact!
he is faster than stock!
he scores very well!!!!!!!


JASON KIDD RULEZ AND HE´S THE BEST POINTGUARD EVER!!!!!!

Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:13 am

*yawn*
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