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Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:26 pm
That's bullcrap...Ward's going downhill sure, but remember, They have Frank Williams and Milos Vujniac (sp.) Let the youth develop before getting more youth.....
good point: I like that, Frank Wiliams is still got potential to be a good player.
About Spree: so he is going down hill, but does that make him bad?
Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:37 pm
i heard that milos guy resigned another contract overseas...
as for spree's ability going down, it doesn't necessarily make him bad. but it's not a good thing since NY asks a lot from both he and houston. nyk picked only big guys, so it appears there isn't any new help coming along for now.
as for spree's ability going down, it doesn't necessarily make him bad. but it's not a good thing since NY asks a lot from both he and houston. nyk picked only big guys, so it appears there isn't any new help coming along for now.
Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:09 pm
Im not saying they should draft a pg(or should have right now 
), i meant it wouldnt be so bad if they got a pg who can immediately play becuz there aint one who runs the show really good right now. And thats why i said they had a bigger need on c, they were lucky to still get lampe,
i didnt mean they should draft a pg man, its just imo they could use a decent one
), i meant it wouldnt be so bad if they got a pg who can immediately play becuz there aint one who runs the show really good right now. And thats why i said they had a bigger need on c, they were lucky to still get lampe,
i didnt mean they should draft a pg man, its just imo they could use a decent one
Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:53 pm
It would be tough for us to get a decent one until we could dump somebody on our team. Too bad Milos, signed with another team, we should had him NOW but we dont. Hopefully, Lampe would be a steal for us and Sweetney would be better than Spoon.
Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:48 am
whats up with new york cornering the market of undersized power forwards?
Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:11 am
limpdilznik wrote:whats up with new york cornering the market of undersized power forwards?
Sweetney could develop in time to something Charles Oakley-esque. Weatherspoon and Harrington.....meh.....filler...
Thomas is really really good when he stays out of foul trouble. If he could go back to being a regular power forward, I could see him putting up like 18-20ppg.
But.....of course.....now if the Knicks do get Lampe (and remember, nothing's a sure thing when it comes to the European leagues), suddenly someone has to go. Harrington might interest somes teams. Weatherspoon won't get the knicks anyone. Kurt Thomas might be tradeable, but I wouldn't want him to go, since he's producing...
And if McDyess is healthy and Sweetney develops quickly, and Lampe lives up to his potential ( a lof of ifs.....especially the McDyess one), things are very good in knick land.
As for the pg situation. I don't think that TJ Ford will be better then even Charlie Ward in his rookie season. Don't think that just because Ford is hyped he'll live up to it. He's not gonna get any playing time with the Bucks, and on the Knicks, he would have to about number 4 on the depth chart. The Knicks aren't that big on playing and developing their rookies.
I do agree that we need a floor general, but I could live with Ward...he helped us get to the finals in 99, and the conf. finals in 2000......
Sat Jun 28, 2003 1:50 pm
Sadly..yea..spree's career has been on a downslide since 2001. He's still my fav...and i want him to spend his days in nYc. I shouldn't be in this topic though..cause i'll always support spree.
That trade for houston sounds very very nice...but i doubt it will happen. That's too a sweet of a deal and knicks would definitely benefit. I see griffith becomming an all-star eventually.
That trade for houston sounds very very nice...but i doubt it will happen. That's too a sweet of a deal and knicks would definitely benefit. I see griffith becomming an all-star eventually.
Sun Jun 29, 2003 4:58 am
spree like most 11 year vets is on his way down but that doesnt make him a bad player, sure his % are down but he still brings defence and leadership to the team plus he plays out of postion.
like Yohance i also would like to see spree play out his days in new york but i cant see it happening. the knicks need to trade him while he still has some value but as a knicks fan i dont like the sound of any of the deals for spree. depending on mcdyess's return (if he returns) id be thinking of trading sweetney, i think he could attract a lot more teams than sprewell is doing then bring in a player that the knicks could do with, the steal of the draft imo was Maciej Lampe and iam very happy that the knicks landed him
Lampe can play sf, pf and centre
like Yohance i also would like to see spree play out his days in new york but i cant see it happening. the knicks need to trade him while he still has some value but as a knicks fan i dont like the sound of any of the deals for spree. depending on mcdyess's return (if he returns) id be thinking of trading sweetney, i think he could attract a lot more teams than sprewell is doing then bring in a player that the knicks could do with, the steal of the draft imo was Maciej Lampe and iam very happy that the knicks landed him
Lampe can play sf, pf and centre
Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:33 am
he must change the club if he wants leadership role 
Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:49 am
he's already the knicks leader......
Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:55 am
mp3 wrote:he's already the knicks leader......
who is alan houston?
Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:19 am
Allan Houston is a knicks player 
if you are referring to Allan Houston been the knicks teamleader (vocally) then you need to do your homework....
Allan may lead the knicks in scoring but sprewell is the heart of the team.
if you are referring to Allan Houston been the knicks teamleader (vocally) then you need to do your homework....
Allan may lead the knicks in scoring but sprewell is the heart of the team.
Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:31 am
mp3 wrote:Allan Houston is a knicks player
if you are referring to Allan Houston been the knicks teamleader (vocally) then you need to do your homework....
Allan may lead the knicks in scoring but sprewell is the heart of the team.
who(houston) is leads the team in scoring ,usually this man is team leader.
example-kidd,bryant,paul pierce,nowitski.
Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:49 am
yes.... usually but not in this case, Allan's to quite to be "a team leader"
Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:51 am
jason kidd wrote:mp3 wrote:Allan Houston is a knicks player
if you are referring to Allan Houston been the knicks teamleader (vocally) then you need to do your homework....
Allan may lead the knicks in scoring but sprewell is the heart of the team.
example-kidd,bryant,paul pierce,nowitski.
Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:27 am
I dont see allan houston as the team leader. Team leaders aren't seen as the guys who put up the most points..but the guy who leads his team vocally...by hard hustling on the court and the guy they can go to for clutch plays. Knicks dont really have a team leader...but if they do...i dont think it's quiet church boy houston.
It just so happens that the guys who score the most point on most teams are also the team leader in other ways. Kobe bryant puts up the most points on the lakers but shaq is the leader for example.
It just so happens that the guys who score the most point on most teams are also the team leader in other ways. Kobe bryant puts up the most points on the lakers but shaq is the leader for example.
Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:02 am
who is team leader for the hawks??big dog,reef or terry???hard to say...definetly houston isnt a team leader for the knicks!but team leader for the cavs will certanly be..u know who!
Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:07 am
jason kidd wrote:
example-kidd,bryant
Shaq is the leader, NOT kobe
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:27 am
Psycho_Jackal wrote:jason kidd wrote:
example-kidd,bryant
Shaq is the leader, NOT kobe
yes but kobe is better-dribbling,aasists,points,speed
shaq-power,low free throw %,fat
kobe is a leader.when kobe leaves ,lakers fall and fall.
Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:42 am
j-kidd i dont think you get what we are saying, we are talking about team leaders....vocally, it has nothing to do with stats
Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:39 am
lol-rick fox avarage is 9.4 but kobe bryant´s 32,0 ,rick fox is lakers
mentally leader-lol lol lol .it has nothing to do with stats-lol lol lol .spre isn´t a leader ,houston is.
sprewell´s avarage is 16.4 but allan houston´s avarage is 22.5.lol sprewell is better-lol.he is not mentally leader,he is not knicks leader at all.houston stats are better.in basketball stats are most important thing..allan houston is better,how many times i must say it:latrell is not leader!!!!!!
mentally leader-lol lol lol
.it has nothing to do with stats-lol lol lol .spre isn´t a leader ,houston is.
sprewell´s avarage is 16.4 but allan houston´s avarage is 22.5.lol sprewell is better-lol.he is not mentally leader,he is not knicks leader at all.houston stats are better.in basketball stats are most important thing..allan houston is better,how many times i must say it:latrell is not leader!!!!!!
Mon Jun 30, 2003 4:51 am
jason kidd wrote:yes but kobe is better-dribbling,aasists,points,speed
shaq-power,low free throw %,fat
kobe is a leader.when kobe leaves ,lakers fall and fall.
Those are statistics, we're not talking stats here, a TEAM Leader, is sumone who motivates, scolds, gives them a pat on the back etc. which is Shaq in this case. The team IS built around Shaq, Kobe is good no doubt, hell he's VERY good, but Shaq is STILL the core of the team , after Shaq leaves and Kobe's still there, then only can you say that Kobe is the leader.
Sorry Jason Kidd, you are wrong in that comment that Kobe is the Leader, and for that matter, Houston is not the Knicks leader it is Sprewell anyone who watches basketball ( not stats!! ) will know that.
Sorry if I sound harsh
No hard feelings
Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:18 am
basketball stats are most important thing..
richard hamilton lead the Detroit in scoring but is he the leader of the pistons?
is Jermaine O'Neal the leader of the pacers?
memphis...Pau Gasol?
miami...Eddie Jones?
portland...rasheed wallace?
Washington... jerry stackhouse?
just because a player leads a team in scoring doesnt make him the "leader" of the team, thats what iam saying...
Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:30 am
jason kidd wrote:lol-rick fox avarage is 9.4 but kobe bryant´s 32,0 ,rick fox is lakers
mentally leader-lol lol lol
sprewell´s avarage is 16.4 but allan houston´s avarage is 22.5.lol sprewell is better-lol.he is not mentally leader,he is not knicks leader at all.houston stats are better.in basketball stats are most important thing..allan houston is better,how many times i must say it:latrell is not leader!!!!!!
Oh man, at least you're a funy idiot.
Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:38 am
Oh man, at least you're a funy idiot.
Funny? I think he's obnoxious and talks things he doesnt know about?
