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Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:55 am

Gedas wrote:Well that's the whole point of the idea. You just proved my point by that post. I was stating, that Lebron doesn't need to take 35 shots to win the game, he can share the ball, because he has players to share it with. While Kobe, although I wouldn't call his teammates pathetic, since Walton is turning into a decent player, not to menthion Odom, there are others. Anyways, they lack consistency, so it all really depends on Kobe to decide, wheter he needs to take 35 shots that night or actually try to get his team take a big load of those shots.


This IS the reason he's scoring 50, but it's the sign of a BAD team.

Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:16 pm

so i guess all those time MJ, Wilt, Kobe scored 50 it's because they were on bad teams?

Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:07 pm

the reason why he has scored so many points is because of a number of reasons, the time was right, he was on fire, some of his teammates were lazy and tired, and he had it going on for him that night... just like Wilt, MJ and Elgin.


Kobe deserves alot of credit for making history.

Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:50 am

Jackal wrote:
Gedas wrote:It's your words that Kobe can't share the ball, not mine ;)


I didn't say that these performances were bad, all I said was that Lebron doesn't need to take 35 shots to win and he can share the ball.


Confusion, confusion.



Ofcourse I can't deny that the Cavs are on a good streak, LeBron's got solid supporting cast. Big Z isn't trash off the streets. Drew Gooden is playing up to pure potential. Larry Hughes has finally gotten his role and is playing marvelously. Pavlovic also understands his role and plays it to perfection.

The Lakers have...Odom. That's basically Kobe's "supporting cast". The others, they show up one day, other days they might not. Parker is streaky, he can drop 20 on you one night and give you 5 the next. Kwame Brown...enough said?

Then your next best player is a 19 year old kid. little girl. :)

heh using very complimentary adjectives doesn't make a player more talented
then they really are

the Cavs "talent" isn't decidedly better then the Lakers. Other then James, the Cavs have consistency problems as well. It’s their defense and rebounding that keeps them in games

Big Z isn't trash but he's not something special either since last year. his game and usage has taken a hit plus varaejo is the one playing center in the 4th quarter

yeh gooden is playing to his "pure" (what is that anyway?) potential if you
consider that to be a garbage man type player

Hughes has gotten his role- which is apparently score more points but shoot
a worse % to do it. he's rebounding and assisting more so i guess that makes
his play marvelous?

Pavlovic is supposed to play some defense, wait for the pass on offense,
and then fill the wing on transition. whoop tee do. though the guy's been playing good lately. I see Radmanovic in street clothes during games. Good job Vlad in staying clothed!

IIRC the Lakers had a pretty good record when everyone was healthy. Odom is easily better then James teammates and at least offensively, the Lakers players are a better fit for the system they run

Walton is turning out to be a solid role player, Kwame is finishing better around the basket and playing ok defense. Even bynum has shown improvement since his rookie year (I could see it now- yet another article about Kareem’s great tutelage)

Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:59 pm

Sorry, Lakers and defense don't mix. Cook and Smush are the worse defensive players in the world. They both are liabilities on offense too. Odom has been injured more than half the season and ever since his first injury, he has reverted back to Odumb. Kwame has also been injured half the season, same as Luke. And Bynum has fallen apart since about 20 games and has never been good defensively. So pretty much no one on the Lakers have played good D, other than Mo Evans(at times) and Kobe(at times).

Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:45 pm

Might as well keep editing this thread. Kobe makes history again. :D More importantly, we are 13-4 when Kobe scores 50. (Y)

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:02 pm

My fucking god. Kobe's unbelievable.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:09 pm

65+50+60= 175........not one player other than Kobe in the NBA can score that many total points in 4 consecutive games let alone 3.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:13 pm

He had to put up 60 points to beat the Grizzlies by 2.....hmmmm

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:24 pm

And Iverson and Carmelo combined for 59 points in a 1 point loss to Chicago. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:25 pm

CMJ wrote:He had to put up 60 points to beat the Grizzlies by 2.....hmmmm

Phil's given Kobe the green light because Kobe's teammates have struggled immensly before Kobe's explosion.
Matthew wrote:And Iverson and Carmelo combined for 59 points in a 1 point loss to Chicago. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Whoah, you're still here?

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:26 pm

Damn, Bobcats are next for the Lakers (should we call them Kobe'rs? :crazy:). He'll probably score 50+ against them, too

Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:29 pm

He had to put up 60 points to beat the Grizzlies by 2.....hmmmm

So you are disliking how much the otherwise weak Lakers need him to win games and how valuable he is to his team, or that he is too good that he put up 60 points again so the losing Denver team is falling behind?

To me, Kobe again carrying his team scoring 60 while selecting his shot carefully is a great feat. But this isn't heathy in long stretch for a team to need so much production out of one guy just to beat some subpar teams. The other team may throw 5 people at Kobe and the rest of his teammates probably still cant make a shot. But what's more important for the Lakers is to improve their team defense, it has been real ugly.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:18 pm

Kobe just joined some elite company with that performance. The way he's been pouring in points, it wouldn't surprise me if he drops 50+ on the Hornets tomorrow. As gergerjai pointed out, it's a bit of a concern that it's been necessary for Kobe to have these huge scoring games for the Lakers to defeat lottery bound teams but that certainly doesn't diminish Kobe's accomplishment.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:53 pm

The game actually wasnt as tight and closely contested as the scoreline indicates. They were in control finishing out the game but some 3 pointers and a bucket at the buzzer is what dwindled it to 2. Also I think its fairly accurate when Kobe speaks of his teammates contribution because alot of the points he didnt have to work overly hard for individually. Guys just found him on his cuts and gave himm the ball in positions where it was just too easy. the 37 shots look like alot combined with the free throws but him not being fatigued at all showed there wasnt really that great a struggle for him. In times past you could see the physical strain on him after the game from him running wild, throwing up shots all out there by himself.

Gotta give alotta credit to Memphis though, they were hitting shots from everywhere. Their confidence just kept growing after each shot they made and it didnt even seem to matter to guys like Mike Miller and Pau Gasol whether guys were on them or not. Too bad Kobe got it going cuz any other night theyd have had a W.



Shammond Williams looked really strong tonight. He had limited action but picked up 6 assists and 9 pts including two 3s. I'd like to see alot more of the guy cuz I remember seeing him in years past thinking he had good enough NBA skills and I gotta say he looked comfortable on the balll tonight, very relaxed and showed good composure/form on shots.

Odom also looked strong as well, as shown by his 20 pts on 8/12 fgs and 15 rbs. He looked sharp on offense and besides from a couple instances was really making smart decisions assisting or making the pass that led to the assist.



All in all nice effort from the guys even if it was against Memphis. These 3 straight wins are a great confidence booster which may help them in reaquiring the form they showed earlier in the season which had LA ranked highly among playoff contenders. They may just go into the playoffs riding such a high which may spell trouble for anyone thinking theyll be pushovers.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:00 pm

Kobe - Top 10 All-time list

http://slamonline.com/online/2007/03/ko ... accept-it/

Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:30 pm

I strongly agree with dada. kobe's teammates did not struggle to shoot nor did they attempt that many shots. There's a reason why the lakers are the best passing team in the league... or atleast the last time i checked before they went on a 6 game losing streak or something. the triangle offense lets kobe score much easier although there are many nights when the laker team has to do away with the triangle and let kobe take over.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:58 pm

If this was ANY other player we'd talk about, everyone would be unanimous about the greatness of the player, but it's kobe, so there always will be people nagging. Imo, best player in the game today.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:51 pm

beau_boy04 wrote:Kobe - Top 10 All-time list

http://slamonline.com/online/2007/03/ko ... accept-it/

Lo, did anyone see his top 10? "For me its Jordan, Shaq, Wilt, Magic, Dream, Kobe, Moses, Bird, Kareem and Dr. J." Dr J but no Bill Russell? Unbelievable.

Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:55 pm

i won't be surprised if he breaks 81 soon. but its highly unlikely.

still, what a performane by Kobe.

Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:24 am

Kobe for 100!! :crazy:

Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:37 am

Well, his averaging only 3 assists during this stretch. Positives are 2 steals and only 2 turnovers.. I say his great, but not the greatest..

Jordan had over 4 assists, 2 turnovers, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.. And 4 steals.. He averaged 55 points..

Jordan played 41 minutes, Kobe 47 minutes..

The Bulls were 2-1 during Jordan's stretch.

Both amazing performances..

Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:42 am

I absolutely despise Kobe and his fucking guts...but I gotta admit that this performance is mindblowing...
I played Memphis against LAL yesterday and they beat me by 2 pts with Kobe scoring 50 pts... :roll:

Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:52 am

and to think that Kobe almost didnt hit 50 in that Minny game had he not streaked out on the last possession.

Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:46 am

U guys can talk blah blah blah- shit or whatever but Bryant is with no doubt the best Nba player atm. When i'm sayin the best, that mean way down better from others.
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