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Postby [Q] on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:19 am

-Young Buck- wrote:I just believe that homosexuality is a similar form of mental illness, much like the people who want to have sex with kids have. But since homosexualty has been accepted so much these days, its looked at as a natural thing. It wouldnt surprise me in the year 2050 that people will accept 40 year old men having a "loving relationship" with a ten year old girl. Who are we to stop them from loving each other? :roll:

first, homosexuality isn't still widely accepted. There are more people ok with it, but it isn't near being accepted by society as a whole. And it will stay that way for a very, very long time.
As far as the mental illness goes, from a scientific standpoint, I don't think it's an "illness" because you don't die from being gay. It's just a hormonal imbalance within their body that makes them desire men instead of women.i still don't get how you criminalize gays like that though. you keep comparing them to felons that want to have sex with kids and shit like that. They are still able to comprehend the laws and what's right and wrong. they don't have sex with kids because they know it's wrong.
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Postby --- on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:37 pm

I don't think it's an "illness" because you don't die from being gay.


AIDS :crazy:
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Postby Oznogrd on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:45 pm

i know its a joke Flite but goddamn thats cold. And heads up: straight people get AIDS too....oh wait according to south park thats funny cuz its been 22.3 years since aids happened.....never mind :roll:
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Postby Oznogrd on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:49 pm

-Young Buck- wrote:I just believe that homosexuality is a similar form of mental illness, much like the people who want to have sex with kids have. But since homosexualty has been accepted so much these days, its looked at as a natural thing. It wouldnt surprise me in the year 2050 that people will accept 40 year old men having a "loving relationship" with a ten year old girl. Who are we to stop them from loving each other? :roll:

Back to John Amaechi,

Who? :mrgreen:


Check your history friend, that did used to be ok Fathers promised their daughters to MUCH older wealthy men to insure they'd be taken care of. Also, check out the ancient greeks: they accepted homosexuality alot more than we do today....

Mental Illness/Addiction has nothing to do with homosexuality. I could get into a whole bunch of stats and stuff about what makes something an illness and what makes something part of your nature. If you want PM me, i'll send ya a thing or two....

Anyways, back to the topic....

EDIT: apologizing way late for the double post.....
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Postby --- on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:51 pm

I'm talking about people who get AIDS strictly from having sex with another man. Call me what you want, but that is wrong.
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Postby Indy on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:08 pm

Flite, I'm disappointed. I knew Young Buck was stupid, but I didn't know you were this ignorant.
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Postby --- on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:23 pm

Let me explain my standpoint on homosexuals.

- I do think a man having sex with another man is wrong.

- However, if I knew a gay guy, I would have no problem with him if he wasn't one of those homosexuals that go round and just try to let everyone know they are gay. That really pisses me off, or talk to me about gay stuff.

- I have sympathy for those that contract AIDS, but as a gay man you must know the dangers of the sex you chose. If you get AIDS from gay sex, that's your fault, it was your choice. It sucks that you have AIDS, but it was your choice.

- I say that because... I do not believe people are born gay. I do not know what happens, but I don't believe they are born like that. If its a natural thing that is pre determined, my view of homosexuality would change, because if that was the case then it is somewhat human nature.

So, until its proven that it is natural, in my eyes being gay is a choice. A wrong choice, at that.
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Postby Nick on Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:04 pm

A lot of gays have a really hard time accepting that they ARE gay. There's nothing they can do about it. If they love the cock, they love the cock. There is no choice involved, flite.
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Postby Axel on Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:18 pm

Flite, you are a complete idiot.

Just a little history lesson for you, gay sex does not cause AIDS. AIDS is believe to have came from eating raw monkey brains. The disease got into the gay community, and because they had sex with each other, it became concentrated there. Of course, there are bisexuals as well, and AIDS can be contracted in other ways than sex, so inevitably it was transferred to heterosexuals.

I don't know the current concentrations of AIDS in the two groups now, but with such a pandemic in Africa and other places, I'd assume it's affecting all fairly equally now.

I know a guy who just came out a few years ago, but we all knew he was gay for the longest time. Had I known what a gay person was back in elementary school, I would have thought he were gay back then. He acted like a girl all the way back to 2nd and 3rd grade. I don't need a study to tell me that there is something abnormal there. I think it's apparent that he was born with a severe hormone or chemical imbalance in the brain, enough that he was even showing traits back in elem. school.

Essentially it's just a nicer way of saying what Nick said, but with an anecdote to go along with it.
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Postby --- on Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:53 pm

Just a little history lesson for you, gay sex does not cause AIDS.


I know this, but it spreads through sex, and AIDS was spread around alot by the gay community and is still there. I would say you have a much higher chance of contracting AIDS in the Western world if you are having gay sex compared to if you were heterosexual.

Flite, you are a complete idiot.


In your whole post pretty much the only thing you tried to say was that people are born gay. You can say it all you want but has it been proven?

Looking back on my post, I sound like a bit of a dick with this:

So, until its proven that it is natural, in my eyes being gay is a choice. A wrong choice, at that.


A apologize for not thinking deeper into it. Yes I do believe there are some people who become gay as a choice, but I do realize there are influences. If all people are born straight, they could be "turned gay" by happenings during their childhood, right down to when they where an infant. I have no idea what could trigger it, but I know that for at least some people this is where a change happened in their life that caused them to be this way.

Until it is proven or at least there is plenty of evidence to support that homosexuality is something some people are just born with, my standpoint on it (that homosexual is wrong) will not change.

Its just like I don't think people are born killers. They go through things during there lifetime from an early age that cause them to be like that, then they go out and do these horrible things that most humans would never do. But because they were caused to be like this, is something unnatural like killing for essentially no reason OK to do? No I'm not comparing homosexuality to murder, just saying that if somebody does something unnatural because previous events caused them to do it, it doesn't all of a sudden become natural.

As far as I know, a "gay gene" or something like that has not been proven.

In 1993 the American researcher Dean Hamer published research that seemed to prove that homosexual orientation could be genetically transmitted to men on the x chromosome, which they get from their mothers. However when this study was duplicated it did not produce the same results. A follow-up study which Hamer collaborated on also failed to reinforce his earlier results. Most recently research published in April 1999 by George Rice and George Ebers of the Universty of Western Ontario has cast doubt on Hamer's theory. Rice and Ebers' research also tested the same region of the x chromosome in a larger sample of gay men, but failed to find the same 'marker' that Hamer's research had produced. Claims that the part of the brain known as the hypothalamus is influential in determining sexual orientation, have yet to be substantiated.
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Postby cyanide on Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:18 am

-Young Buck- wrote:I just believe that homosexuality is a similar form of mental illness


That's what they teach in Bible School.
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Postby Sauru on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:13 am

lmao. this topic has spun out of control
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Postby Axel on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:23 am

Sauru wrote:lmao. this topic has spun out of control


so?

and while I'm at it, why the fuck is your avatar so much bigger than everyone else's?
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Postby [Q] on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:25 am

cyanide wrote:
-Young Buck- wrote:I just believe that homosexuality is a similar form of mental illness


That's what they teach in Bible School.


well, there's obviously something wrong with teaching people about gays from the bible then.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:26 am

Yeah, for all we know, Jesus could be a butt knocker.
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Postby ThaLiveKing on Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:00 am

He's Gay? David Stern has to put him on the All-star team now, Gays might actually watch the event now lol
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Postby Sauru on Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:07 am

Axel wrote:
Sauru wrote:lmao. this topic has spun out of control


so?

and while I'm at it, why the fuck is your avatar so much bigger than everyone else's?



i get asked that alot. i made it when i started on this forum and never changed. maybe they have new limits since when i joined
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Postby shadowgrin on Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:55 pm

That explains why Amaechi appears so nice and eloquent during interviews. :o

:lol: at some of the posts in this thread. Ignorance really is bliss.

illini wrote:Check your history friend, that did used to be ok Fathers promised their daughters to MUCH older wealthy men to insure they'd be taken care of. Also, check out the ancient greeks: they accepted homosexuality alot more than we do today....

illini is right.
Also, arranged marriages still happens in some countries today.
The Greeks also used to reward their brightest male scholars with an ass-ramming.
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Postby Indy on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:49 pm

Flite, I was going to go from quote to quote, but I don't think I can do it. People like you just piss me off to no end, I'm not going to try to change your mind.
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Postby hammertime23 on Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:18 pm

Lol Flite made your sig and ava.
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Postby Indy on Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:40 pm

hammertime23 wrote:Lol Flite made your sig and ava.


Up untill this I've liked Flite. I don't dislike him now, I'm just pissed off because its that exact mentality that is the reason that homosexuals have the problems that they do. I know a lot of gay people, and I've known them my whole life, and I don't tolerate the type of things that Flite is saying.

Don't take any of this personally flite, I would say the same thing to any other poster if they said what you did.
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Postby --- on Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:26 pm

No problem, we all have our own opinions.
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Postby killer_cr0ss0ver on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:36 am

^^^^
I knew it! Shaq is really gay! lolz
And oh, Rudy Gay is Gay. :roll:
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Postby CMJ3 on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:31 pm

With John Amaechi coming out and admitting he is gay i reckon some other players might announce it sooner or later.
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