Blockbuster trade (Indiana and Golden State)

[Gundy]

In some sort of bizzaro world maybe. Or if by "star" you mean amazingly average. He got 18 shots a game in Atlanta and managed only 18 points a game. A similar volume shooter, Rashard Lewis put up 20 points on 17 shots. That's a guy who's last two seasons have been far far closer to "offensive star" than Harrington.

I agree that I was wrong by calling him a star but I think you might be underestimating his talent by calling him average. While he certainly isn't capable of being the go-to-guy, he is very capable of filling it up when needed as type of role player.

[Sauru]

Harrington and Jackson are just bad character guys in my opinion. Then again, Murphy and Dunleavy are white, slow, and extremely inconsistent.

you say white like that itself is a bad thing. what does them being white have to do with anything?

[Gedas]

Rumors say that Saras could be heading to Cleveland, who are very interested in his services. They wanted him, when he still played in Europe, but he chose the Pacers. Now, that he is with GSW, who already have a very strong package of guards, Cleveland will be trying to get him again.

[maes]

Interesing to read people may think Diogu is the key factor in this trade...i'll admit i haven't seen much of him, i'll keep on eye out on him.

I think the X factor is murphy, he makes or breaks this trade for me. He started out in the league very strong, was an excellent rebounder and good shooter and had 7' and 250 lbs to throw around. The perfect roleplayer. And unlike most promising young guys, he started going backwards instead of forwards. Is it the classic make your big contract then stop playing syndrome?

If the Pacers can turn that trend around and turn him around, they may have gotten the better of the deal.

Dunleavy i have no expectations. He was cursed with a high draft pick. Had he gone #28, he'd be a good reserve player around the league.

[[Q]]

if the Clips trade Maggette to Indy for Dunleavy, I will lose all respect for the Clips as an organization.

[NBA KYD3]

This deal sucks for Kelenna Azubuike, he was doing amazingly for a 22 year old undrafted guard in GSW and now he will have to fight for minutes with Jackson, and Saras in addition to B-Dave and Richardson. Just look at his starters numbers. I just wish Philly was smart enough to pick UP THE DEFENSIVE POINT GUARED WE NEED!!

[BigKaboom2]

Harrington and Jackson are just bad character guys in my opinion. Then again, Murphy and Dunleavy are white, slow, and extremely inconsistent.

you say white like that itself is a bad thing. what does them being white have to do with anything?

I wasn't in a politically correct kind of mood.

I just wish Philly was smart enough to pick UP THE DEFENSIVE POINT GUARED WE NEED!!

Miller's not a bad defender...has he been getting burned recently?

[ThaLiveKing]

Rumors say that Saras could be heading to Cleveland, who are very interested in his services. They wanted him, when he still played in Europe, but he chose the Pacers. Now, that he is with GSW, who already have a very strong package of guards, Cleveland will be trying to get him again.

I honestly wouldn't be suprised if this happened because Cleveland needs a PG, but I doubt saras could help them alot

Another thing, after watching tonights game VS the heat, Jermaine can be Jermaine, and it's gonna be dangerous for teams. Pacers are gonna be tough to beat, especially if we can grab rebounds. EAST LOOK OUT

[mvpshaq32]

Well the Clippers would definetely want more than Dunleavy for Maggette.
I'm not so sure about whether Dunleavy would fit in with the Clips but Maggette has a good chance under Nelson's small ball lineup. He's much more aggressive and a better rebounder.

[ThaLiveKing]

Golden State still ain't makin the playoffs, If they do they #8, When Denver comes back to full strength, they should be dangerous

[[Q]]

Well the Clippers would definetely want more than Dunleavy for Maggette.
I'm not so sure about whether Dunleavy would fit in with the Clips but Maggette has a good chance under Nelson's small ball lineup. He's much more aggressive and a better rebounder.

Maggette wouldn't play under Nelson's small lineup in Indy

[Jugs]

LMAO, owned.

This trade is definitely a wait and see what happens to see who benefits the most trade.

Which is like 99% of all trades.

[[Q]]

new numbers for the Warriors:
Jack will wear number 1.
Harrington takes back #3.
Powell will wear 21.
Sarunas will wear 33.
@realgm.com

[Sauru]

Harrington and Jackson are just bad character guys in my opinion. Then again, Murphy and Dunleavy are white, slow, and extremely inconsistent.

you say white like that itself is a bad thing. what does them being white have to do with anything?

I wasn't in a politically correct kind of mood.

i dont see how it matters what kind of mood you are in. what if i was to throw the term black in with headcase while talking about jackson. i guarentee that would surely piss people off, no matter what kind of mood i may happen to be in.

[BigKaboom2]

I seriously was not trying to be racist, especially because I'm white. I was just making a stereotypical joke about athleticism. It's hard to ignore the fact that people of African descent in the NBA have historically been better athletes. It's not racism, it's genetics. Black people aren't associated with being headcases, as I see it, but white basketball players are perceived as being unable to jump high and run fast. I figured it would go over fine with the people at this board who often watch the NBA, and know exactly what I'm referring to.

[ThaLiveKing]

Getting Magette is out of the picture . . so looks like I gotta support my boy Dunleavy, Welcome 2 Indiana

As Walsh explained it, "We're keeping Mike Dunleavy. I talked to his father and he's happy he's coming here and thinks it'll be good for his career. He's got Maggette and (a trade) was never brought up. Period."

End of discussion. End of rumor.

[eisfeld]

Hmm, as Pop stated in an interview "Teams seem to know now that they should pull the trigger now and work on the team instead of waiting for the trade-deadline" (quote not entirely his words). Well, I expect the Spurs to trade soon, if not Barry and Udrih than either Finley and Williams. Maggette is still available and there are already rumors about S-Jax returning to SA. Should be a damn exciting time till trade deadline.

[IndianaPacersMan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891

The Golden State Warriors have agreed to trade Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod to the Indiana Pacers for Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius and Josh Powell, NBA front-office sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

I don't know much about these players, but it sounds lopsided in Golden State's favor. Maybe Indy can explain why this trade is a good thing for the Pacers.

I think Golden State got the best of this trade.

They got Jackson and Harrington and they both played big parts for the pacers.

Hopefully Dunleavy and Diogu can help the pacers out.

[ThaLiveKing]

Watched the Knicks game. . . I seen a whole lot of Positives, Watch when we start to click, we will be dangerous, Finally got Rebounding, it's so nice to see us grabbing them

[IndianaPacersMan]

I watched it too. Dunleavey really did well. I am excited to see where this might go.

It was a close game (Near the end...) and it came down to Danny Granger...

It wasn't as bad as a turn out as it would've looked early in the game.

[Axel]

I'm watching the Warriors and Cavs game. Jackson and Harrington are fitting in perfectly. They can both handle the ball on the fast break well and are good decision makers. I'll go ahead and say it now, and you guys can laugh all you want, but the Warriors are the deepest and most talented team top to bottom in the NBA. That's not saying they'll put it all together and win, but when you look at their roster, they're two and even three deep at every single position.

Kelenna Azubuike had 28 the other day against the Clippers, and has been instant offense off the bench. If you haven't seen Monta Ellis play, he's been nothing short of amazing this year. Great quickness, he can beat anyone off the dribble. Baron Davis has had another great year as well, he's obviously an all-star player. Biedrins has been great this year too. He's got length and speed at the center position. He's a much better than average center. Richardson has been injured most of the year, but people have stepped up. Barnes has had a career year, as has Pietrus. Then you just add Jackson, Harrington, and Sarunas to the mix - they're an extremely deep team. If these additions help them establish any sort of defensive game (and tonight they have played good defense), the Warriors will be a team nobody wants to face in the first round.

[mvpshaq32]

Wow....an 18 point lead turns to a 2 point loss. Al Harrington shot horribly from the field, even missing some lay-ups. Jackson has an pretty good game though.

[_marsal]

Well, watched Pacers-Knicks game. I really like what I saw. It would be even better if Ike (and Maceo) got more PT and Danny not shooting from so far away. But overall it was a good game.

Axel, I agree actually with everything you said about GSW being the deepest team in NBA, but I totally disagree with Jackson being a "good decision maker" Just wait until he starts jacking up contested 3s 5 seconds into shotclock..But GSW are definately a team to watch out.

[ThaLiveKing]

Golden State was playin street ball yesterday, that was no NBA team lol!! They don't even play defence they run Zone!!! I guess that's how they play. .. It was a fun game to watch, Sarunas finally playin the style he likes, did you see how effective he was

[[Q]]

I'm watching the Warriors play the Fakers tonight and I gotta admit they look a lot more polished, and a lot more under control. They're gonna challenge Denver and the Clips for the last few spots in the playoffs.