All NBA / All NBA Defensive Team Predictions?

All NBA First:
C:- Yao Ming
PF:- Elton Brand
SF:- LeBron James
SG:- Kobe Bryant
PG:- Steve Nash

All NBA Second:
C:- Shaq
PF:- Dirk Nowitzki
SF:- Shawn Marion
SG:- Dwyane Wade
PG:- Chauncey Billups

All Defensive First:
C:- Marcus Camby
PF:- Ben Wallace
SF:- Andrei Kirilenko
SG:- Gerald Wallace
PG:- Chauncey Billups

All Defensive Second:
C:- Kevin Garnett
PF:- Shawn Marion
SF:- Bruce Bowen
SG:- Dwyane Wade
PG:- Jason Kidd

KG center?

I love how 'PHX4LIFE" just completed ignored Riot's post and instead commented on how someone listed KG as a center.

KG's been whining ever since they lost the playoffs so long ago.

No he hasn't, he has taken responsiblity for it and he has moved on.

get over it, you god damn bum.

If Kevin Garnett is a bum, what are you?

Your team sucks. What does KG want?

He wants to be a part of something special. He puts more hours into his job then you do in yours, if you even have a job. The guy has worked his ass off since he was 13 years old and even with the millions of dollars he has locked up in his bank account he keeps fighting and keeps playing hard because of his love of the game. He's frustrated that his team is losing. Do you want him to be happy? I thought we wanted athletes who care about the game and want to win? Now we are going to crictize them when they get upset for losing?

"I hate this place i wanna leave" "i never wanted to leave"

You use quotation marks, yet Kevin Garnett never said those words. He has never said he hates Minnesota. He loves Minnesota and he wants to stay in Minnesota. He is loyal to the state and to the franchise. He loves the community and he loves the fans. He has never said he wanted out. What Kevin Garnett are you listening to?

"god damn it, i don't wanna rebuild waaaaaaah, i wanna leave"

He doesn't want to go through another rebuilding stage, so what? The city and the state doesn't want to go through another rebuilding stage. We have one of the greatest athletes of all time in his prime and the team isn't at it's peak. He's frustrated for the fans. He wants to see a better product out there. He isn't looking for the easy way out, Garnett never does that. He earns everything he has. He's telling management that he wants a better team on the floor for himself and for the city. I'm pretty damn glad he said it, too.

you signed the 7 year deal you piece of shit, so you stick out the seven years and shut up.

First thing is first, he signed a five year contract extension. Secondly, Garnett has stayed in Minnesota for 11 years and he plans on staying here for the rest of his career. So what do you mean you "stick it out"? Do you even know anything about Kevin Garnett? Did you even read the quotes that he said? For some reason, I just have this feeling that you have absoutely no idea what you are talking about. And in my opinion, you look like a damn fool.

If you're making 18+ mil a year, you gotta be a man.

He is the man and he has been the man since he was 13 years old.

Has Lebron said he wants out?

Has Kevin Garnett?

No.

Thank you.

And he's making like 13 million less than KG.

He's also on his rookie contract. And what does money have anything do with being happy?

KG's becoming another spoiled brat like T-Mac or Francis.

How is Garnett a spoiled brat? He has been one of the best citizens in the NBA for the past 11 years in the league. He donated over $1 million to the Hurricane Katrina Relief Aid. He spends a lot of time working with the community in Minnesota. He is and always has been the best professional he can be. He has never wanted out and he has never, EVER, demanded to be traded. With all of these other athletes out there complaining and asking to be traded at the first sign of trouble, Kevin Garnett is a breathe of fresh air. He went through 7 straight first round playoff exits and he didn't complain. He has lost so many friendships throughout the years because of trades, free agency and death and he hasn't complained. He missed the playoffs last year and again this year and he speaks out now because he is upset with the direction of the franchise. How does that make him spoiled? If Kevin Garnett is spoiled, then I don't know what you would call Tracy McGrady, Steve Francis, Vince Carter and all the other athletes that bitched their way out of town. I think you are getting Kevin Garnett confused with someone else. Your agrument in this post was quite childish and something I would expect from a 4th grader who is first learning how to bullshit.

I used to like ya, KG, but my annoyance/hate is growing.

Do you think he cares? You are one of the few that misunderstand him and hate him. Congratulations. I'm glad you hate a man that you know nothing about.

Wow. No he hasn't gotten over it. That's why he's complaining about having to "rebuild".

Yes I'm a bum, I'm not a 1 million dollar bum, let alone 18.

What I'm saying is: it's alright for players like marcus banks, mark blount, etc. to be complaining. KG is supposed to be the captain. He's acting like Adam Morrison. When you're complaining off the court that you want changes, your teammates are going to be wary. They're going to say "whoa, does he mean me? well I don't want to play with him if he wants me traded." He's not leading. Losses are losses. Talk to the Warriors. KG has missed 2 playoffs in a row now. Warriors have missed what? 13? JRich for instance has been there for 5 years without playoffs, and you don't hear him blowing it all over the media like KG.

Frustrated for the fans? More like "I don't wanna be the next karl malone. Give me a ring, NOW." Teams like the Cubs in baseball and the Warriors and the Clippers and now the Blazers, Knicks etc. are constantly rebuilding. Happens to everyone. It just so happens to have happened to KG. If you want your team better, KG, TAKE LESS MONEY, YOU SELFISH PRICK. "I want us to get better free agents." "I'm sorry, we can't do that, forty percent of our money is in your bank account."

And yes, KG has said he wants out. Just not directly. He just says stuff like "I'm more deserving of a better team."

He is spoiled. Almost every NBA player is spoiled, he's no different. Myself and probably most people here could live on 2 million dollars a year. So take that off 18. OK that's 16 that you don't need. Donate it? "nah, here's a couple million, go away." what in the HELL do you do with the extra 14 million dollars? Isn't speaking out because you don't like the franchise the same as whining? Pretty much. KG, just shut up and play if you like it so much. Don't bitch to us, bitch to yourself, bitch to your teammates, and bitch to the management.


Here's some articles
http://www.startribune.com/511/story/334535.html

Here he complains about McHale
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... ame18.html

Now he wants to stay
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincitie ... 907671.htm

Here he's actually being a leader
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincitie ... 970369.htm

Says he doesn't want teammates to be lighthearted
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/ ... basketball

They say what you say: he just wants to win
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2389608

PHX, seriously, stfu... dont argue with Riot about KG, its just fucking ridiculously one-sided

does anyone know what the main reasons for picking the all-nba teams are, obviously stats are important, but does it rely on team performances and everything else too?

Nah, that's more for individual awards (MVP, MIP, etc)

Wow. No he hasn't gotten over it. That's why he's complaining about having to "rebuild".

He has been in Minnesota for 11 years and he is almost 30 years old. You can't rebuild around a 30 year old superstar. The team needs to put talent around him now if we want to make a run for a championship. He has said nothing wrong. Do you want him to put up with rebuilding? I certainly don't. As a Timberwolves fan, I thank KG for speaking out.

Yes I'm a bum, I'm not a 1 million dollar bum, let alone 18.

Shut up.

What I'm saying is: it's alright for players like marcus banks, mark blount, etc. to be complaining.

Why is it okay for them to complain? They are getting playing them and they are just the role players. Kevin Garnett works harder than any other superstar in the league. He plays harder than any other player I've seen. He can speak out if he wants to, especially considering he hasn't done much of that in his 11 years here. Garnett wants the team to get better, if Marcus Banks calls out to the media that the team needs to get better do you think anyone will listen to him?

KG is supposed to be the captain.

And he is the captain. He is teaching the guys on the sideline, he playing hard every single second even thought they are out of the playoff race, he is showing up and suiting up every night even though he is banged up. He's frustrated about losing. HE HATES TO LOSE. He can't stand it. All this losing the past two years has taken a toll on him mentally. I'm proud of Kevin Garnett. We want more athletes like Kevin Garnett.

He's acting like Adam Morrison.

Kevin didn't fall on the floor and cry before the game was even over. Morrison was upset that his team lost, KG is upset that his team is losing. It shows that they care a lot about winning. I don't quite get what the point of this comparison was.

When you're complaining off the court that you want changes, your teammates are going to be wary.

His teammates want changes, too. The coaching staff wants changes, too. Everyone in that locker is sick of losing (for the most part) and they want it to chagne. Kevin Garnett spoke up and got the attention of management and the country. Great. Now he's going out there and dominating basketball games and playing hard.

They're going to say "whoa, does he mean me? well I don't want to play with him if he wants me traded."

When did Kevin say he wants his teammates to be traded? Garnett recently said this team needs a training camp together. He just wants some more veterans added to the team, that's all. He has gone through too many teammates the last few years, he wants to settle down and get to know these guys.

He's not leading. Losses are losses.

Garnett is leading and he is teaching. I could give you about 10 stories off the top of my head about how KG is leading this year just from me watching him and from reading about things in the paper. Just say the word if you want me to.

Just because a team is losing doesn't mean it's Garnett's fault. The team is too young and they can't close out games. Wolves have lost more close games than anyone in the league. Does that mean Garnett isn't clutch? Somewhat. But it also has to do with the youth on the team.

Talk to the Warriors. KG has missed 2 playoffs in a row now. Warriors have missed what? 13? JRich for instance has been there for 5 years without playoffs, and you don't hear him blowing it all over the media like KG.

Jason Richardson is younger and I'm sure Jason Richardson has mentioned his frustration with missing the playoffs. If he hasn't, then I'd be dissapointed with him. I think you are taking these Kevin Garnett quotes and blowing them out of proportion. You think he is demanding to be traded and he is demanding new teammates and demanding to win. He isn't doing that. He wants more veterans on the team and he wants more talent on the team. Everyone does. He doesn't want to miss the playoffs again because the losing takes a toll on him. He gives so much every single night that when he comes up short it devastates him. He's 30 years old, he can't go through a rebuilding process.

Frustrated for the fans? More like "I don't wanna be the next karl malone. Give me a ring, NOW."

Kevin Garnett said: "I think the city's more deserving of a better team."

Where the hell do you come up with these stupid little quotes? Do you think you are funning or something? You are really starting to piss me off. HE DOESN'T WANT GO TO THROUGH ANOTHER LOSING SEASON!!! WHY ARE YOU SO UPSET AT A GUY WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING!?!?!

Teams like the Cubs in baseball and the Warriors and the Clippers and now the Blazers, Knicks etc. are constantly rebuilding. Happens to everyone. It just so happens to have happened to KG.

KG's teams have been rebuilding and reloading for his 11 years in the league. He doesn't want to settle for being medicore. Why is that so bad? Why do you think athletes, who give their heart, soul and body to the game, have to just take losing and accept it? When I'm playing outside just in a pick-up game I hate to lose, think about it on the NBA level for 11 years. I would drive me crazy. And the Blazers those teams aren't consistently rebuilding. Knicks were in the NBA Finals 5-6 years ago and the Blazers were in the playoffs for 19 straight seasons (a streak that was ended just recently). You gave horrible examples.

If you want your team better, KG, TAKE LESS MONEY, YOU SELFISH PRICK. "I want us to get better free agents." "I'm sorry, we can't do that, forty percent of our money is in your bank account."

Kevin Garnett took $86 million less than what he could have.

And yes, KG has said he wants out. Just not directly. He just says stuff like "I'm more deserving of a better team."

Yes, but then he also said: "I'm not asking to be traded. I didn't mention any trades. I said for the city and for my own sake that I thought I was well deserving of having another chance of getting to the Western Conference Finals. Losing sucks. I hate losing. I just want to have a well-deserving team."

He just wants a better team. Is that so bad?

He is spoiled. Almost every NBA player is spoiled, he's no different. Myself and probably most people here could live on 2 million dollars a year. So take that off 18. OK that's 16 that you don't need. Donate it? "nah, here's a couple million, go away." what in the HELL do you do with the extra 14 million dollars?

I don't know what they do, either. But if someone was offering me $18 million a year I don't think I would turn it down. Would you?

Isn't speaking out because you don't like the franchise the same as whining? Pretty much.

When has KG said he doesn't like the franchise? He loves the franchise, the state and the fans. That's why KG has stayed in Minnesota for his whole career, something that most athletes never do.

KG, just shut up and play if you like it so much. Don't bitch to us, bitch to yourself, bitch to your teammates, and bitch to the management.

I never thought I would hear someone tell Garnett to just shup and play. Do you even know who Kevin Garnett is? The guy who plays harder at practice then most players play during a game? The guy who shows up to work every single night even if he is banged up and hurt? The same guy who cussed out his teammates earlier this year because they were laughing and smiling after a loss? You are pathetic. Honestly. I hate you. Your ignorance is just blinding. It has taken me about a half an hour to write this because I've had to step away from the keyboard and blow some steam and then come back to finish. You are a piece of trash.

He has "bitched" to management, behind closed doors. He talks to management a lot. He talks to his teammates every day. And how do you bitch to yourself?

Thanks for those articles, I've read every single one of them already, pal.

Here is the problem with you. You have no idea what you are talking about. I read this post and I think to myself; "Is this guy talking about Kevin Garnett still?" It's amazing how your perception of Kevin Garnett and his comments are so far off that you can't even think rationally. Your examples and your comparisons are a joke. I can't believe you actually think since the Warriors have missed the playoffs in 13 straight years that KG should just suck it up. It makes zero sense.

Kid, you need to get banned. Not only for your stupidity in this thread, but also in any topic you post in. After reading your posts I literally feel stupider. No joke. The only cure for your Stupid Cancer is the ban button. It's a shame that I can't do it because I am not a moderator.

Anyway, I'm expecting you to reply to this post with something like this:

"kg is an idiot becuz warriors have been losing for 13 years! hes just spoiled. he hates his teammates and his team hes just a bitch."

If you plan on doing something like this, then don't. You made your point.

does anyone know what the main reasons for picking the all-nba teams are, obviously stats are important, but does it rely on team performances and everything else too?

Just like all of the awards, whatever anyone feels like picking players for. Whether they give better interviews or better head, doesn't matter how you decide. Nobody asks WHY you voted for a player...

And if they for some reason do, just say something that can't necessarily be proven like "they have intense drive to win", "they provide great leadership" or "they make their teammates better"

Difference between Allen Iverson/KG: AI doesn't take it public. When's the last time you heard AI complaining about the situation. Even if they make the playoffs, there's no chance in hell they go somewhere. They're worse off than the Wolves, actually, because they aren't in the lotto.

its not even right to compare AI and KG. i love allen iverson, but he's also the guy that bitched and moaned about practice.

yes, but that was the olympics. nobody honestly cares.

olympics? try the 00-01 season under larry brown.

and to your comment about AI not taking it public, he has taken it public before. when chris ford took over (you might want to look this up, and no it's not during the 04 olympics) , and AI got benched he definitely bitched about it to the public. he was voicing his displeasure and questioning his coaches motives. although i agree with his stance, there was no reason why he should've brought it public initially. do some research before you speak out of your ass and come up with retorts like "nobody honestly cares".

well whatever. i'm not even going to argue on the INTERNET. My views won't change, your views won't change. No point anymore. You may say "Ha, he 'quit' because i'm right" all you want, but it's not true.

I think you are a douchebag.

well whatever. i'm not even going to argue on the INTERNET. My views won't change, your views won't change. No point anymore. You may say "Ha, he 'quit' because i'm right" all you want, but it's not true.

HAH he quit

youve been argueing on the internet this entire post, you get wrecked and decide to take the high-road? not true my ass

Ben makes his teammates better.

I think PHX4LIFE is a douchebag, too. He'll try to bring every player in the NBA to prove his point. I'm a fan of AI, but to say he hasn't complained is a lie.

I'm glad someone made this topic, been thinking quite a alot on who would be my choices or predictions for this season. Seems like there has been a lot of discussion going on about something else and then KG (too lazy to read properly) but I won't add to that. I'm going to put season awards here too as well.

MVP: Steve Nash - Another big year for Hair Canada, how good is he making his teammates better, the L's best PG. Sorry Kobe you have played out of your mind this season but Nash is still the man.

DPOY: A very tough one but I'm going with... Marcus Camby - Was on fire at beginning of season then got injured as usual but has came back strong. Some say a player's stats doesn't really show how good at D he is but thats not always the case. Camby has been impressive he is leading the league in blocks at 3.4, is pulling down 12 boards pg and averaging a career best 1.4 steals pg. He has also been doing this without K-Mart at his side due to injury at the beginning of the season and I think a few weeks before the trade deadline. He is giving Yao a challange for the best center in the West. AK47 is a close 2nd for it then Big Ben followed by The Matrix. If there were a award for most improved D it would go to Dirk Nowitzki. Hey Ron Ron you better not get distracted again so next season you can pick up your second DPOY

MIP: Boris Diaw - 3D has finally been given the opportunity to play and he has sure taken advantage of it. He is thriving under the Suns system and Steve Nash and is versatile and has many skills. He can play at all positions and could also become an all star in the future. West from the Hornets will be runner up.

6th Man: Mike Miller - Has been exceptional off the bench for Memphis. Has provided many times when the team needs it. Had a great 40 point game off the bench I think a few months ago. Speedy Claxton from New Orleans will be runner up.

ROY: Chris Paul - No competition here!

Comeback Award: TJ Ford - Has been inspirational coming back what he went through.

Now finally on to the teams

All NBA

1st

Nowitzki - Big Dirk is having a better season than last
Brand - Finally his 20-10 average is not going to waste
James - He'll soon join Big O by averaging a triple double per game
Bryant - Killer year for Kobe, hopefully he'll get a better frontcourt next yr
Nash - MVP! MVP! MVP! Amazing what he did with the Suns without Stat

2nd

Duncan - Always consistent, played great but not as good as Brand, Dirk
Garnett - His excellent play is being wasted, needs better support.
Marion - Top partner to Nash, Scoring and already great D has improved
Wade - Another great year, will get even better
Billups - He is why the Pistons are the NBA's best

3rd

S.O'Neal - Missed quite alot of games due to injury but is always reliable
Gasol - Finally had his breakout season, will improve even more
Carter - The old Vinsanity is back, 05-06 highlights are mindblowing
Iverson - Like KG, AI deserves better. 76ers GM needs to go.
Arenas - Again proving why he shouldn't of been drafted in the 2nd round

Honourable Mentions/Notable Absentees: Yao, Camby, Pierce, Parker, Anthony, Bosh, Howard, Redd, Jamison, Kidd, B.Wallace

All Defensive

1st

Camby
Wallace
Kirilenko
Marion
Bowen

2nd

Mourning
Duncan
Garnett
Brand
Kidd

All Rookie

1st

Bogut
Frye
Villanueva
D.Williams
Paul

2nd

Granger
Felton
Head
Jasikevicius
Robinson

Im pretty sure rookie teams arent decided by postion, and i really dont agree with your all-nba teams, mainly because Dirk doesnt play center, and Yao should definately be in the 1st team, at least 2nd.

ALL NBA Defensive team
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G - Jason Kidd
G - Eddie Jones
F - Gerald Wallace
F - Rasheed Wallace
C - Marcus Camby

ALL NBA Team
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G - Steve Nash
G - Kobe Bryant
F - LeBron James
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Elton Brand

ROOKIE Team
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G - Chris Paul
G - Raymond Felton
F - Charlie Villanueva
F - Chaning Frye
C - Andrew Bogut

Im pretty sure rookie teams arent decided by postion, and i really dont agree with your all-nba teams, mainly because Dirk doesnt play center, and Yao should definately be in the 1st team, at least 2nd.

Your def. right about rookie teams but wrong about all-nba teams and Dirk being center. Just like rookie teams positions don't matter.

http://www.nba.com/history/awards/20012002.html

Dirk in 01-02 was the center for all-nba 2nd team, KG and C-Webb were forwards. I also saw Kobe in PG position, Tmac SG for all nba 1st team 02-03. Once again positions don't matter.

Btw I'm having 2nd thoughts about Shaq being in my all nba 3rd team with the way Yao is playing, someone mentioned he was only playing good after asw this season, thats wrong. When t-mac was out and the rockets were losing at beginning of season he was playing good im sure he was avg. 20-10 but he's on fire atm.

I'm changing my all rookie team

All Rookie

1st

Bogut
Frye
Villanueva
Felton
Paul

2nd

Granger
Felton
Head
D.Williams
Robinson

Some of these lists have just been horrible.. does anybody even watch the nba anymore?

All NBA Team 1
C- Yao Ming - This is the toughest choice out of anyone.. it would be good if there could be some leniency in positions but Yao's been the best center since the all-star break while shaq and camby have been former shadows of theirselves but still better than other centers in the league

PF- Dirk Nowitzki - Who would have thought the Mavs would have stepped it up even more than the passed couple of years? Be honest, did anyone think the mavs would have been competing for the championship at the start of the year? Dirk has lead them there and upped his game. Also my MVP choice

SF- LeBron James - Went through a shaky patch straight after all-star break but is now hitting top gear pushing Cavs into playoffs without Larry Hughes. Big numbers aswell.. is there anything this guy can't do?

SG- Kobe Bryant - Not a Kobe fan but no one can deny how good he has been this year. The 81 point game gets him here alone lol (j/j)

PG- Steve Nash - Once again phenominal. Does what a true point guard should do in making his teammates better. All this sans Amare Stoudemire. I wonder how many assists he would have had, had Amare been at full strength all year

All NBA Team 2
C- Shaq - Has played second fiddle to Wade all year but has started to up his game a bit with the playoffs in sight. Still very capable of putting up big numbers

PF- Elton Brand - Was probably the MVP favourite through the first quarter of the season but started to slip out of contention towards the end of the year. Still having a great year after leading seller dwellers Clippers back into the playoffs after a 9year(?) hiatus.

SF- Paul Pierce - Been solid all year then just exploded after the all-star break.. started to fade a little bit again but numbers have been steady. About to sign a big extension because of the way his game has matured. Look out for this Boston team in the next couple of years

SG - Dwayne Wade - Tough one. Iverson and Wade have both been instrumental to their teams but wade has just been freakish of late. The guys talent is extremley scary. Watch out for him in the playoffs where I can see ESPN writers getting over excited and start calling him the next MJ even more

PG- Chauncey Billups - Any other year and he would probably made the first team but Nash has been just a little better. Had a fast start along with the rest of the Pistons but hasnt been as good last couple of months. Can see him really kicking into gear towards the end of the season. Future Prediction - If Pistons make NBA Finals he will be finals MVP again

All NBA Team 3
C- Marcus Camby - Been plagued by injuries but when he's been in he has been in great form. Ben Wallace could be here also. Hard to split the 2.

PF- Shawn Marion - Been great all-round. Really stepped it up in absence of Amare.

SF- Vince Carter - Another tough one here. Was tempted to put Carmelo Anthony in but Vince has been just a little more consistant over the year. Had Melo' had a stronger start you could make the case he could be in the second team let alone the third.

SG- Allen Iverson - Supposed to be getting worse, supposed to be getting slower and tired from all the years of taking big hits. But he just elevates his game to another level. Teams still cant find a way to stop him (just ask milwaukee)

PG- Gilbert Arenas - Another tough one.. Tony Parker could be here aswell but Arenas has just been unstoppable all season. Had he had a better supporting cast this Wizard team could do damage. I can see him single handedly getting the Wizards into the second round but no further

All Defensive Team 1
C- Marcus Camby - Would not have thought it at the start of the season but he changes more shots then Ben Wallace and Zo' so he gets the nod

PF- Elton Brand - Alot smaller than most forwards so the job he does on shutting down the likes of Garnett, Duncan, Nowitzki should be heralded a little more.

SF- Andrei Kirilenko - I'm going out on a limb here and saying that he is the best defender in the league right now. There is no other player looking like getting 10 blocks, 10 steals and 10 boards in a game more than Kirilenko.

SG- Gerald Wallace - All round defender. Top 10 in blocks and steals

PG- Jason Kidd - Held Nash and Billups scoreless on back to back nights. Enough said!

All Defensive Team 2

C- Ben Wallace - Still one of the biggest intimidated forces in the league.

PF- Shawn Marion - Would be on All Defensive Teams in previous years with the year he is having but has been beaten out by other great defenders
SF- Ron Artest - People have been saying it's been his offense that has sparked Kings latest surge. I think its been his defence! Hurt the fact he missed for part of the season though.

SG - Bruce Bowen - Another person I'm not a fan of but I hate to admit he does shut down oppents even if it is dirty (cheap shot i know)

PG- Chauncey Billups - Rounds out the good defence of the Pistons. Easily second best PG defender in league

http://www.nba.com/history/awards/20012002.html

touche... it seems there is sort of a frontcourt section, and backcourt for the awards, with the players just jumbled around between that as is seen fit.

i agree with your list Pross - pretty much how i had mine i think

I forgot to add someone all nba team related from last season that really ticked me off.
I could not believe last year that Kobe got into all nba 3rd team. It was f****n b/s. He put up some good stats but got injured quite a while by twisting his ankle and i think some other injury and played about 60 games and his play didn't help the lakers much. The lakers missed the playoffs (9th or 10th position) and the team i think had the worst record by any lakers team ever. Vince Carter should of been in 3rd team instead last season. When he landed in New Jersey he was rejuvenated and played damn good that nets made it into playoffs as 8th seed and he also set or shared a record with another Nets player from a while back for most 30 point games in a season.

Also if I see Tim Duncan in All NBA 1st Team this season I'll just be as pissed like the Kobe issue.

Having 2nd thoughts again but this time about Paul Pierce. Was orignally gonna put him in 2nd than 3rd but then i thought how the c's were going... but man he has been putting up great numbers this year.