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Postby Null17 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:01 am

How dare you! Duncan is not boring! :lol: :lol: :lol:

The thing about Bron is that I see the same damn dunk all the time yet people rave about his dunks.
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Postby Weiland on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:58 am

yeah..stats can be misleading thats why its ol bout undrstanding the game... duncan puts up consistent stats but he doesnt avg 30 ppg... duncan and kg's stats are somewhat the same but garnet cant make shots when it counts the most...ginobili is avg like how mony i thnk only 16 ppg but he can really make a difference down the stretch.. y did KG win the mVP??? wolves made conf finals coz of spree and cassell...kg's avg didnt change that season..he's consistent but he was not the difference y they made a successful run that season..nba suck that year. lebron and wade can take over games not just by scoring,sometimes they play decoy..
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Postby Matt on Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:16 am

oh boy, you'll have Riot fuming when he reads what you wrote about Garnett.

Anyway, i don't agree that Wolves won because of Cassell & Spree. If that argument is used you can say that Duncan won because of Parker & Gino.

I find Duncan kind of boring to watch...i wish he'd actually smile out there, or sucker punch someone damnit...do something. He's a robot.
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Postby fgrep15 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:23 am

Guys sag off more off LeBron than off Redd and Redd still shoots a superior 3pnt %. Same can be said for other players.

Oh geez, their's a reason Redd is consiered a "shooter". Lebron is not a shooter, of course they'd play Redd tighter, just like someone would play Iverson the same way, or Tayshaun, or Rip because people don't consider him a three point shooter. I still don't see how you've made any kind of point with that except that their's guys who are better shooters than Lebron in the league.

i said LAST FEW SECONDS OF THE GAME. I'm not denying his ability to score in crunch time, just questioning it on the last play of the game with the ball in his hands.

Again, what's there to argue when he's done it on more than one occassion? If he hadn't done it, okay, but he has, so I don't have to say anything...

Weiland wrote:yeah..stats can be misleading thats why its ol bout undrstanding the game... duncan puts up consistent stats but he doesnt avg 30 ppg... duncan and kg's stats are somewhat the same but garnet cant make shots when it counts the most...ginobili is avg like how mony i thnk only 16 ppg but he can really make a difference down the stretch.. y did KG win the mVP??? wolves made conf finals coz of spree and cassell...kg's avg didnt change that season..he's consistent but he was not the difference y they made a successful run that season..nba suck that year. lebron and wade can take over games not just by scoring,sometimes they play decoy..

Such a misconception, I don't know why people still say this, it really isn't true at all, Garnett takes and makes as many late game shots as the next big guy, and get's more assists than about all of them.
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Postby volsey on Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:42 am

people say how all of lebrons dunks look the same, when i was thinking that about wade, wade gets way more dunks than lebron, and to me, they all look the same, wades has alot more fastbreaks too, and i dont see him doing reverse windmills like lebron did, i dont really care much if their dunks look the same, that doesnt really make me decide whether theyre exciting or not, i find nice passes, nice team plays, and clutch shots or big defensive stops most exciting in a close game
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Postby John WB on Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:39 am

Weiland wrote:but garnet cant make shots when it counts the most...ginobili is avg like how mony i thnk only 16 ppg but he can really make a difference down the stretch.. y did KG win the mVP??? wolves made conf finals coz of spree and cassell...kg's avg didnt change that season..he's consistent but he was not the difference y they made a successful run that season..nba suck that year.

I don't believe that. Garnett's made some big clutch shots. I remember one of the best games in the 2004 Playoffs vs. the Kings where the Kings were down by like 18 with 4 minutes to go, but then started hitting 3 after 3 and Minnesota started turning over the ball. Kings forced OT, but it didn't mean anything, KG was dominant and took over the game in Ot winning it for the T-Wolves. He was great that series, great the rest of the Playoffs, and great that season. He definately deserved the MVP.

I don't think he's been as good since and not having as good a team can be the reason why, but he still was a monster. And look at his numbers that year, probably the best line of his career.
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Postby skateballer on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:23 am

Whoever thinks LeBron and Wade are boring...are boring
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Postby air gordon on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:24 am

lol Matt, nothing personnel, but you sure say some dumb shit despite your tenure here.

not a slight on Iverson in, as i do admire him for his effort but man- anyone see the Cavs vs Detroit game? some of the stuff Lebron James does- he makes it looks so easy
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Postby bludgeon on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:21 pm

skateballer wrote:Whoever thinks LeBron and Wade are boring...are boring

They are bored :lol:
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Postby beau_boy04 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:37 pm

I have only one thing to say - Michael Jordan is the best!
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Postby Matt on Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:58 pm

well, if anyone cared to read the thread thoroughly, i re-phrased myself and said that they don't excite me (except some of Wades defensive stuff, like that block on Billups). To me they are the NBA's overhype, sadly ESPN has Miami or Cavs playing every other week.
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Postby Weiland on Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:32 pm

i just dont see Kg anywhere near duncan... duncan is so effective..
and kg makes those silly fadeaways...like he is afraid to get blocked..he should drive to the basket wid his ball handling and jumping ablity... and wid spree and cassel teaming up with KG is not the same with manu and parker wid duncan.. have u seen that season?im not talking bout the playoffs... cassel hit the big shots in the 4th qtr..cmon,im a kg fan but rily dont think he should have won the MVP award that season...and if ur talking bout kg hitting big shots,well he's done that very few times... even maurice williams hit buzzer beaters :P :P
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Postby Jugs on Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:41 pm

Weiland, go back to Weiner-land. You've never seen KG play... stupid Duncan homer
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Postby fgrep15 on Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:14 pm

Weiland wrote:i just dont see Kg anywhere near duncan... duncan is so effective..
and kg makes those silly fadeaways...like he is afraid to get blocked..he should drive to the basket wid his ball handling and jumping ablity... and wid spree and cassel teaming up with KG is not the same with manu and parker wid duncan.. have u seen that season?im not talking bout the playoffs... cassel hit the big shots in the 4th qtr..cmon,im a kg fan but rily dont think he should have won the MVP award that season...and if ur talking bout kg hitting big shots,well he's done that very few times... even maurice williams hit buzzer beaters :P :P

KG is shooting 55% this season, he's been more effective inside and in terms of offensive efficiency. Even before this he was always in the 49-50% range anyways.

You make it sound like it's just that simple, he should just drive to the basket with his ball handling and jumping ability, fly over everyone and dunk, why can't he just do that :?

I'm not sure what you're comparison with Spree and Cassell to Parker and Manu is, what are you trying to say there? Manu was better than Spree, just played less minutes. Parker was not better than Cassell, but was better defensively and with penetration, but Cassell was [and is] a better shooter, passer and has the experience, though Parker had already been far in the post season then. That season Manu > Spree, Parker < Cassell.

All in all you really made no point with your post, and I'm still trying to understand what you were trying to get at.
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Postby Weiland on Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:57 pm

i'm not talking bout kg this season...its all about his mvp season..and im not the 1st one to compare spree and cassel to manu and parker... to simplify everything... i just dont think he's a player you'd give the ball on crucial moments... and that's what the MVP award is all about.. gt my point? stats dont show it but dats the reason why duncan is better than KG
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Postby skateballer on Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:29 pm

Weiland wrote:i'm not talking bout kg this season...its all about his mvp season..and im not the 1st one to compare spree and cassel to manu and parker... to simplify everything... i just dont think he's a player you'd give the ball on crucial moments... and that's what the MVP award is all about.. gt my point? stats dont show it but dats the reason why duncan is better than KG


Duncan looks like a freakin dirt ball first of all. Second, KG has waaayyyy higher stats than Duncan. KG has amazing talent, unlike Duncan, who jus gets the ball down low, turns and shoots. I think thats even more boring than people think LeBron and Wade are.
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Postby Avrah3 on Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:45 pm

I think thats even more boring than people think LeBron and Wade are.

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