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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:28 pm

my friends you all will see the true colors this season. Kobe will dominate the NBA and Pierce will eat his words.

Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:20 pm

Let's just say Lakers vs. Celtics in the NBA's rivalry week will be good! (Y)

Hey, wat if this thing that P-Dub said was because he was put up to it to cause the media to focus on the Lakers and Cletics... old ricalry and all? It's a good attention seeking plot! (Y)

Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:00 pm

K0be4mvp wrote:
Pierce didn't commit adultery so that still makes him a better person.

That doesnt make any sense. Maybe Pierce likes to smack mentally challenged children off the court. You dont know him.


You see, then by your logic I can accuse Kobe of rape because maybe he did rape the girl, I don't know him. Oh you say he was proven innocent? Nope, his case was dropped. See that's a bit different. He wasn't ever proven innocent.

Also make no mistake Kobe 100% absolutely commited adultery. There is no proof of Pierce doing anything that wrong, is there? And proof is everything. You are innocent until proven guilty aren't you? Which is why I didn't say Kobe was a rapist. Who knows if anyone does anything behind the scenes? So a rapist isn't worse than Mother Teresa because who knows what Mother Teresa did behind our backs. No, you'd clearly say Mother Teresa is better than a rapist because as far as you know, Mother Teresa did not do anything that bad. So in other words, it doesn't matter what we don't know. What matters is what we do know. Kobe has been proven to have committed adultery, therefore he is worse than Pierce as a person.

Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:19 pm

How does committing adultery make him worse as a person? That's just plain retarded.

Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:26 pm

To follow up on what Jae said: Bang , go fuck yourself :). Nah I'm just kidding. But lets look at your post closer...
You see, then by your logic I can accuse Kobe of rape because maybe he did rape the girl, I don't know him. Oh you say he was proven innocent? Nope, his case was dropped. See that's a bit different. He wasn't ever proven innocent.

That is true, but remember what type of legal system is in america. You have to be proven guilty. You dont have to prove your innocence, you must be proven guilty. I'm sick of people assuming Kobe did it and im equally sick of people who say he didnt. the only 2 people that know is kobe and the girl. Thats it. Get over it.

As for Paul Pierce, credit him for being honest and confident. The media and mindless fans seem to take the bait when a player says somthing like this (marbury last season). Every NBA player feels they are the best. Theres just a few that are honest enough to say it.

But lets compare that to certain rappers. Nelly made a song saying "i am number one". was that broken down and criticised to no end? i dont think so. and dont we have somthing more productive to argue about then if a player (who has had an excellent career up until this point) feels he is better than arguebly the best player in the game today?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:37 pm

You see, then by your logic I can accuse Kobe of rape because maybe he did rape the girl, I don't know him. Oh you say he was proven innocent? Nope, his case was dropped. See that's a bit different. He wasn't ever proven innocent.


:lol: You're probably one of those who thinks the girl went to his hotel room to play cards... :roll:

Who gives a damn about players off-court lifes? Hurray if they are all David Robinson like. But I always prefered Charles Barkley's personality to that of the league's nicest boys. Most of the common mortals, not only players, cheat on their wifes, run away from taxes and speed on the Highway. People are human, and therefore beautifully flawed. And that's OK.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:05 am

ShAuN wrote:
Drex wrote:Miami had that 300 pound monster last year and didn't win. Kobe is still better than Pierce and I don't think Pierce would've won 3 rings with Shaq.


LOL but look the Lakers got in the lottery.

I think Pirce is a better leader, and almost a better player look at this

PLAYERFG% 3P% FT%
BRYANT 433 .339 .816
PIERCE 455 .370 .822

Kobe last year averaged 20 shots PER GAME
Pierce last year averaged 15 shots PER GAME

Kobe averaged 5.9 rebounds per game
Paul averaged 6.6 rebounds per game

Kobe averaged 1.3 steals per game
Pierce averaged 1.6 steals per game

Kobe averaged 0.8 Blocks per game
Pierce averaged 0.5 Blocks per game

Kobe averaged 4 Turnovers per game
Pierce averaved 2.8 turnovers per game

Kobe averaged 27.6 points per game
Pierce averaged 21.6 points per game


That's comical... Pierce is a leader? Because leaders overreact to small fouls in the playoffs and cover their head with fake bandages.

Pierce was a leader. He was never a good one, but now he's just a disgruntled super-star who has yet to prove he is as good as he once was.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:29 am

Jae wrote:The Celtics also had a better all-round team that had been together and retained the same coach for more than 1 season. The Lakers had an entire core of new players and had all sorts of coaching dramas. Compare them after this season and we'll get a more accurate picture.


Accually, that was Docs first year as the Celtics head coach. And what makes u think having a better overall team helps Pierce shoot, rebound better and play better defense? And the Celtics had a whole new core of players too, maybe not as much but they were up there.

D up wrote:That's comical... Pierce is a leader? Because leaders overreact to small fouls in the playoffs and cover their head with fake bandages.

Pierce was a leader. He was never a good one, but now he's just a disgruntled super-star who has yet to prove he is as good as he once was.


I agree with the bandage part. BUT a few weaks ago, he said he has a totally differant attitude now. And he admitted to that being stupid.

And Pierce was a leader, people dont know how stressful it is going through a whole new coaching system. Obrein and Carrol liked halfcourt, Doc and Danny like the running game. Right now hes playing great ball.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:31 am

It is obvious the chick he banged was after him for his money. Her story changed every other week. She had 0 credibility. The case was dropped because Kobe's lawyers were going to own her in trial.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:35 am

And what makes u think having a better overall team helps Pierce shoot, rebound better and play better defense?


I think anyone who's ever played on a basketball team would know the answer to that.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:35 am

Pierce is not a leader, and neither is Kobe right now. Pierce is not better than Kobe, the only thing he's better than Kobe at is rebounding, and probably not turning the ball over so much.

Kobe is a better scorer, passer, defender, and player in general. Pierce is good, but he's not even better than Tmac, Wade and Vince.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:26 pm

wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him. Pierce can carry a team. Pierce nor Kobe are leaders, but Pierce is a better passer, shooter(by percentages) and maybe Kobe is alittle, LITTLE bit better defender. Kobe isnt better than Wade. And TMAC and Kobe are sort of the same, but Id rather have McGrady.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:39 pm

Kobe isnt better than Wade.

Wtf are you on? Crack?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:10 pm

wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him


:lol: :lol: and what superstar PG did he have in Toronto when he was leading them to play-off appearances? Oh yeah, Alvin Williams!!

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:15 pm

ShAuN wrote:Kobe isnt better than Wade.

Um...what? Am I missing something here?
I think Kobe is waay better than Wade at least as of right now.
Last edited by Emiliano on Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:15 pm

Kobe better than Paul Pierce by far and you can't do much about it Pierce unless you play better.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:18 pm

You sure told him.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:29 pm

putodelagoa wrote:
You see, then by your logic I can accuse Kobe of rape because maybe he did rape the girl, I don't know him. Oh you say he was proven innocent? Nope, his case was dropped. See that's a bit different. He wasn't ever proven innocent.


:lol: You're probably one of those who thinks the girl went to his hotel room to play cards... :roll:

Who gives a damn about players off-court lifes? Hurray if they are all David Robinson like. But I always prefered Charles Barkley's personality to that of the league's nicest boys. Most of the common mortals, not only players, cheat on their wifes, run away from taxes and speed on the Highway. People are human, and therefore beautifully flawed. And that's OK.


No I think he is a rapist. You read didn't read it properly...or I worded it weirdly oh well.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:58 pm

Jae is right... Pierce is not even better than T-Mac or Wade and Kobe is. So, if you're just assuming that Pierce is better than Kobe then you're just a hater that Kobe is in fact better than Pierce. You can't changed from one day to another and Pierce was never better than Kobe neither he is now.

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:09 pm

ShAuN wrote:
Drex wrote:Miami had that 300 pound monster last year and didn't win. Kobe is still better than Pierce and I don't think Pierce would've won 3 rings with Shaq.


LOL but look the Lakers got in the lottery.

I think Pirce is a better leader, and almost a better player look at this

PLAYERFG% 3P% FT%
BRYANT 433 .339 .816
PIERCE 455 .370 .822

Kobe last year averaged 20 shots PER GAME
Pierce last year averaged 15 shots PER GAME

Kobe averaged 5.9 rebounds per game
Paul averaged 6.6 rebounds per game

Kobe averaged 1.3 steals per game
Pierce averaged 1.6 steals per game

Kobe averaged 0.8 Blocks per game
Pierce averaged 0.5 Blocks per game

Kobe averaged 4 Turnovers per game
Pierce averaved 2.8 turnovers per game

Kobe averaged 27.6 points per game
Pierce averaged 21.6 points per game


you left out assists (I guess you didnt do that on purpose.)
Kobe- 6.0
Paul- 4.2

and you also indicated that Kobe takes 20 shots while Paul only takes 15. Well, considering that Kobe averages 6 points more he seems to be making use of those shots (He would have to hit 3 out of those 5 which is a good percentage).

Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:48 pm

sure right kobe kicks ass when he is up against Paul Pierce. i think Kobe is a better team player than Pierce. i was watching this documentary about the celtics and it said that the coach doesn't even get along with paul pierce and that he doesn't pass it off. i guess thats were Kobe kicks pauls ass in assists.
SUCK ON THAT PAUL PIERCE!!

Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:38 pm

To be fair, I think Kobe has the ball more than Pierce.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:14 am

I personally think Pierce doesn't play as well without another star player on the team. He hasn't really played well whenever Antoine Walker was traded.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:25 am

Jae wrote:
wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him


:lol: :lol: and what superstar PG did he have in Toronto when he was leading them to play-off appearances? Oh yeah, Alvin Williams!!


Who did Pierce have??!!

Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:02 am

ShAuN wrote:
Jae wrote:
wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him


:lol: :lol: and what superstar PG did he have in Toronto when he was leading them to play-off appearances? Oh yeah, Alvin Williams!!


Who did Pierce have??!!


Gary Payton :lol:
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