Steal of the Draft?

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Who will PROVE TO BE the steal of this year's draft?

Gerald Green to Boston
28
53%
Danny Granger to Indiana
9
17%
Jarrett Jack to Portland
1
2%
Roko Ukic to Toronto
8
15%
Chris Taft to Golden State
3
6%
Andriuskevicius to Cleveland
1
2%
Hakim Warrik to Memphis
2
4%
Monta Ellis to Golden State
1
2%
Ian Mahinmi to San Antonio
0
No votes
CJ Miles to Utah
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 53

Postby J@3 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:36 pm

is he even capable of touching the net?


Nate Robinson will be one of the better dunkers in the NBA... he's constantly called the most exciting player in college basketball. Nice research :lol:
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:49 pm

Lmao, every time they talk about Nate they say he is the best athlete in the draft...

I'd call it Superb research, rather then great.
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Postby 8-Hype on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:54 pm

I'd say Green has some more serious hoops than Robinson. Could someone post the link to the site where you can see the vertical leap measurements?
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Postby J@3 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:14 pm

How can you say Green has more serious "hoops" since only a few minutes ago you didn't even think Nate could touch the net :lol:

The Chicago combine results say Green has a 39" veritcal leap. Do a Google search for Nate Robinson's (since he didn't attend the combine) and almost every site has him listed between 42" and 44".
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Postby The X on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:23 pm

Nate will win dunk contest next season....you heard it here first :wink:
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Postby cklitsie on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:26 pm

ØN¥X wrote:Green has the best hoops of this year's draft and the gnome, is he even capable of touching the net? And Green scored 6 from 9 attempted three pointers in the McDonalds All-American. And I don't think Robinson will get much playing time, because of Marbury, and the Knicks even wanna sign Mighty Mouse. Then he has absolutely no chance of getting more than 5 minutes. Green won't play much neither, but he'll get 12 or 15 or so. Both players have to develop, and over the years Robinson can get better than Green... it all depends where both are playing. And the only steal you made were trading Q-Rich.
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"the 5-foot-7 3/4 Robinson" (quote)
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31.5 min
16.4 pts
3.9 reb
4.5 ast
1.7 stl
6 blk (entire year)
.463 FG
.385 3PT
.782 FT
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How are the Knicks going to sign Stoudamire? Pretty clear there's not much cap space left and a sign-and-trade won't happen either because Stoudamire will not have a 1-year contract and they drafted Nate as backup PG. What you say about both players having to develop is true, but Robinson went to college and has much more experience, so I think Nate is better at this point and Green will be better in the future and not what you said.

And if you're gonna bitch about some small writing mistakes, make sure your own post is free of those too. :roll: On top of that, there was nothing wrong with what I wrote, you just didn't quote one word, so learn to read.
ØN¥X wrote:the best hoops

ØN¥X wrote:won't play much neither

ØN¥X wrote:the only steal ... were

???

ØN¥X wrote:Maybe you don't want to know.
Exactly.
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Postby 8-Hype on Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:36 pm

First I wanna say that a player who has been projected 42th and got drafted 21st is not considered a steal, you idiot. That's just a surprise. A player like Green who has been projected 3rd to 7th and got drafted 18th is called a "draft steal".

And just have a look at what I've found (pay attention to the bold letters):


The trade of Kurt Thomas, the best bigman they had for Quentin Richardson (and his overpriced contract) only compounds their hopeless salary cap situation. Channing Frye is not the answer to all of their problems inside, despite having Spike Lee's approval on the pick. He's not big, strong or tough enough to be an impact center in the league. Acquiring Nate Robinson (21st pick) in the Quentin Richardson deal from the Suns gives them a scrappy backup point guard, but the Knicks focus should be on cutting down the salary cap before it begins to approach the national deficit. David Lee brings energy, but there were many other more talented players on the baord at 30. The deal adding Quentin Richardson is essentially one step forward two steps back. They are stockpiling overpriced perimeter players with no concern of their cap nor apparently winning a championship. All things being equal, Richardson is the talent in the deal, but the contract is out of hand. The Suns sure appreciate having a clueless GM like Isaiah Thomas around. They've been able to dump a number of their long term salary cap problems off on the Knicks (Marbury, and now Q). The Spurs were able to add the key piece (bigman Nazr Mohammad) to their team to win the title this year. The question many are beginning to wonder is how Isaiah still has a job.


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ceekay wrote:How are the Knicks going to sign Stoudamire? Pretty clear there's not much cap space left


They said they're gonna release Houston, and Stoudamire made clear he will play for the Knicks next season (well... the priority of his interview does mean nothing to the Knicks, but he was sure).

ceekay wrote:And if you're gonna bitch about some small writing mistakes


I'm not bitching, I'm just pointing out, and there were no bad intentions behind that.

Jae wrote:How can you say Green has more serious "hoops" since only a few minutes ago you didn't even think Nate could touch the net :lol:


Everyone knows that a college player at the age of 22 is able to touch the net, and that's why this was a joke. But I didn't know he can jump that high. By the way: Green won the 2005 McDonald's All-American Slam Dunk Contest.
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Postby The Game on Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:47 pm

They said they're gonna release Houston, and Stoudamire made clear he will play for the Knicks next season (well... the priority of his interview does mean nothing to the Knicks, but he was sure).

Even if the knicks waive Houston, they would still be under the cap. :roll:

Stoudamire has made it clear that he wants to be Steph's back-up? I dont think that's true considering the reason he wants out of Portland is because he doesnt want to be Telfair's backup. Anyway, you got a link to that article?
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Postby 8-Hype on Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:15 pm

Man, I wanted to search for Green's stats, but I can't find them anywhere. Can somebody help me? At least I can post this:

ESPN.com wrote:He averaged 33 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists last season, and he shot better than 60 percent from 3-point range.


NBA.com wrote:High School Career Highlights: Two-time All-State selection at Gulf Shores Academy. Named MVP of the Reebok ABCD All-Star Camp in the summer of 2004.

2005 Postseason All-Star Games: Scored a game-high 24 points on 8-for-12 shooting, including 6-for-9 from behind the arc, in the McDonald’s High School All-America Game. Also won the McDonald’s Slam Dunk Contest. Scored 17 points in the 2005 Roundball Classic, making 4-of-7 three-pointers.

Senior (2004-05): Averaged 33.0 points, 12.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists.

Junior (2003-04): Averaged 28.8 points, 13.0 rebounds and 6.0 blocks, leading Gulf Shores to a 39-2 season.


The Game wrote:you got a link to that article?


There was a link that someone posted here in NBA Talk. I'm too lazy too search.
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Postby frAn on Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:10 pm

granger is the biggest steal so far for me.... we'll see what he can really do this coming season! ;)
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Postby 8-Hype on Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:20 pm

Actually we don't know what the future will bring. Granger, Green and Robinson are all great players, that's why they got drafted. Let's stop discussing here, [b]Ceekay[/b].
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Postby FanOfAll on Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:58 am

ØN¥X wrote:Man, I wanted to search for Green's stats, but I can't find them anywhere. Can somebody help me? At least I can post this:

ESPN.com wrote:He averaged 33 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists last season, and he shot better than 60 percent from 3-point range.


NBA.com wrote:High School Career Highlights: Two-time All-State selection at Gulf Shores Academy. Named MVP of the Reebok ABCD All-Star Camp in the summer of 2004.

2005 Postseason All-Star Games: Scored a game-high 24 points on 8-for-12 shooting, including 6-for-9 from behind the arc, in the McDonald’s High School All-America Game. Also won the McDonald’s Slam Dunk Contest. Scored 17 points in the 2005 Roundball Classic, making 4-of-7 three-pointers.

Senior (2004-05): Averaged 33.0 points, 12.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists.

Junior (2003-04): Averaged 28.8 points, 13.0 rebounds and 6.0 blocks, leading Gulf Shores to a 39-2 season.


The Game wrote:you got a link to that article?


There was a link that someone posted here in NBA Talk. I'm too lazy too search.

HS stats are meaningless. Al Jefferson averaged some 41 ppg, 20+ rpg, and 8 bpg. He won't ever be the same shotblocker on the pro level.
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