Pistons is the DIRTIEST team in the history of NBA!

by **air gordon** on Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:08 am

dont remember that one, jeffx.. gotta clip?

by **Jeffx** on Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:24 am

If I ever find one, I'll post it. That sh!t was from WAAAYYYYY back!

by **Sauru** on Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:18 am

air gordon wrote:i believe that since nba players are signed to huge contracts, organizations are trying to protect their investments, thus the move away from this physical play, turning the game almost like a wnba atmosphere. a player falls down and refs are thinking about handing out flagrants fouls.

sauru.. i remember those great series in the 80's and the physical play poured into the early 90's. there were no such things as flagrant fouls. what was great was it wasn't benchies getting into fights, it was the stars or halfway decent players getting into tussles. all time greats like erving & karim even lost there cool and went after their opponents

i cant even count how many times bird/mchale/parish took shots at the pistons players, and vise versa. these are the biggest 3 guys you got and they are the 3 throwing punches. lol it was great back then. personally i dont think bird got enough credit for his toughness, or the old showtime lakers for that matter. the lakers were always known to be run n gun but they also scraped when they had to.

by **Jeffx** on Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:21 pm

Sauru wrote:personally i dont think bird got enough credit for his toughness, or the old showtime lakers for that matter. the lakers were always known to be run n gun but they also scraped when they had to.

They had to, especially after Boston beat them up in the '84 Finals. Remember the physical(some say dirty) play of M.L.Carr and Kevin McHale clotheslining Kurt Rambis? The league is a lot softer today.

by **air gordon** on Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:47 am

larry legend was tough as nails.. i stil remember that game against the pacers where he landed on his face straight on & still played on

by **ntong** on Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:22 am

what can i say more, man....
Manu's hurt...
Hope he comes back soon

by **Drex** on Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:01 pm

He is? I'm not watching the game, can you elaborate?

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:37 pm

That was hardly a dirty play. I thought Prince flopped a bit, but there wasn't anything underhanded there.

by **dan_suth** on Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:05 pm

ntong wrote:what can i say more, man....
Manu's hurt...
Hope he comes back soon

You gotta be fucking kidding me! Did you actually watch that play? Ginobili ran straight at Tayshaun and got a charging foul, and injured himself in the process. How can you even dare say that was dirty?

by **_marsal** on Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:20 pm

I really don't want to take anything away from pistons, but isn't it funny how every oponnent they play, gets hurt or sth happens to them? :lol:

First Ronnie gets suspended, then they play Pacers in playoffs, who had milion of injuries..then they're behind against miami and Wade gets hurt and they beat the heat...then they're behind spurs and now manu gets injured and they win..it's just tough to root for pistons nowadays :wink:

by **Drex** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:42 am

It's tougher to root for the team that's facing Detroit, 'cause the players get inujured. Maybe the Pistons have luck in that aspect :cheeky:

by **maes** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:32 am

Impeding the progress of a player unless your feet are planted is a foul out on the perimeter. It's not an offensive foul, but it wasn't a dirty play by a longshot. Remember, now in the NBA you can't even hand check the guy to impede progress, and if you put 2 hands on a guy facing the basket automatic foul no questions asked (that's why you see players always putting 1 hand up to show the ref). Prince threw his entire body at him.

But you knew as soon as Ben Salvatore was announced that this was going to be just a random whistle-fest.

IF there was any dirty play (and i don't think this was intentional) it was Billups elbowing Parker in the head in mid-air after Parker burned him to the basket and was in the middle of the layup. I think Billups was trying to strip the ball and ending up catching Parker's head instead. I've seen lighter stuff called as an intentional.

But other that that, i didn't see anything dirty. Physical yes, but it's the job of the refs to call that crap...if it doens't get called the players aren't going to stop for no reason.

Wade's injury was self-inflicted i thought...i'll say Detroit is the luckiest team in the NBA right now but i don't think they're intentionally injuring players out there.

by **Sauru** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:46 am

_marsal wrote:I really don't want to take anything away from pistons, but isn't it funny how every oponnent they play, gets hurt or sth happens to them? First Ronnie gets suspended, then they play Pacers in playoffs, who had milion of injuries..then they're behind against miami and Wade gets hurt and they beat the heat...then they're behind spurs and now manu gets injured and they win..it's just tough to root for pistons nowadays

people get hurt all the time in the league not just vs the pistons. shit happens

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:05 pm

maes wrote:IF there was any dirty play (and i don't think this was intentional) it was Billups elbowing Parker in the head in mid-air after Parker burned him to the basket and was in the middle of the layup. I think Billups was trying to strip the ball and ending up catching Parker's head instead. I've seen lighter stuff called as an intentional.

Agreed, I'm surprised that wasn't called a Flagrant given some of the calls that have been made this season. But as you said, the play has gotten physical so far but not dirty.

by **MaD_hAND1e** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:46 pm

Andrew wrote:That was hardly a dirty play. I thought Prince flopped a bit, but there wasn't anything underhanded there.

I watched that replay over and over yet saw no contact between Ginobili's left knee and Prince's knee, or did Manu twist is knee by himself and just kinda reached for Prince as support?

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:11 pm

I'm pretty sure the injury came about as a result of the accidental contact, to me it looked like there was a collision but he might have just twisted it. In any event, I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to injure Manu, just one of those things that happen in basketball.

by **Old School Fool** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:24 pm

The last time we saw a Dirty Play in the NBA was when Bruce Bowen did some psycho-whoopin'-Mortal-Kombat-Bruce Lee-Ninja Kick type shit on Wally Scerzibaidkjfiskd.

by **Matt** on Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:02 pm

well there was Danny Fortson on Zarko Carbakarpa....or what about Starks clothes lining Marion in mid air and Marion fell head first into the floor. Ouch!

by **Boyk** on Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:25 am

Ah well, ginobili got what was coming.
He got some of his own medicine with the flopping, no sympathy.

honestly how can ya say that was dirty, now i like bruce bowen, but what was that shit on hamilton late in the game, he just went straight up and shirtfronted him!

so......whos dirty?

and i find it funny that the guys that get hurt against the pistons are always the slashers, the guys who love to goto the hole.................well your challenging Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace for gods sake, what else can ya expect???
Hes not called the Beast coz hes a pussy

by **Sauru** on Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:56 am

playoff basketball is always more physical, why would this change now?

Pistons is the DIRTIEST team in the history of NBA!

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