Kobe's Decision

by **air gordon** on Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:24 pm

relax... was a joke, rant boy... btw- how many laker championship parades/rallies have you attended?? :twisted:

by **Fresh8** on Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:05 pm

Fine- it really depends on how focused/in form Kobe is when he comes into the season...

And also- yes- it's Kobe's choice on whether he's gonna pass or not...not me but I would prefer he did pass!

by **Matthew** on Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:36 pm

And also- yes- it's Kobe's choice on whether he's gonna pass or not...not me but I would prefer he did pass!

you cant be serious... i guess its also lamar odoms choice if he wants to smoke weed when he plays for the lakers too..

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:49 pm

by **Fresh8** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:39 pm

Damn!

Hey- a Q. Do u guys think that Kobe will do something like that 9 consecutive 40+ point games like last last season back?

by **The Game** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:51 pm

Sit wrote::( Damn!

Hey- a Q. Do u guys think that Kobe will do something like that 9 consecutive 40+ point games like last last season back?

he will, maybe even more than 9 times..

by **Fresh8** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:56 pm

Wat? 82 times!

If so... BYE BYE PLAYOFFS! :lol:

But hey- I LOVE LA now... Jackal- can't u be happy too?

by **hmm** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:44 pm

by **Jackal** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:06 pm

Why should I be happy when my team went from Championship to MAYBE making the playoffs? Use your brains.

by **hmm** on Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:12 pm

by **Carmo** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:30 pm

I think that the Lakers have as much chance of being as good as at least Sacramento (from last few seasons) now that they have Divac and quite a deep team with Brian Grant probably on the bench now and Devean George, Kareem Rush, Luke Walton and the other young players (including the rookie who looks to be wuite good from the summer league). I think that the Lakers have a very good chance of making the playoffs after the signing of Divac.

by **Fresh8** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:25 pm

Hey Jackal... if you support a team you have to support them even when they go sh*t!

Does anyone have a different opinion? It's called being optimistic!

by **Jackal** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:35 pm

Sit wrote:Hey Jackal... if you support a team you have to support them even when they go sh*t!

Does anyone have a different opinion? It's called being optimistic!

Sit, I hope, I really hope this doesn't offend you but please, I beg you please, just:

shut the fuck up.

It's bad enough LA is scum of the West maybe just making the playoffs, now I've got a fuckwit Kobe fan preaching to me? Seriously, stop preaching about shit you wouldn't do. I'm still there for the team, but I dislike the move they made.

Oh, and just to remind you of your so called loyalty:

Sit wrote:I just worried that if Kobe leaves to the Clippers...who do i root for?

Where's that sucking emoticon, damn..I lost it.

Again, please stfu.

by **Amphatoast** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:57 am

seems laker fans are having issues like shaq and kobe did :lol:

but jackal, you going to have to get use to the kobe business,the Lakers is all about Kobe now.

by **Jackal** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:07 am

Amphatoast wrote:but jackal, you going to have to get use to the kobe business,the Lakers is all about Kobe now.

I'm used to it already.

I had seen all this happening, everybody knew before hand Shaq would be the one to go, not Kobe.

Anywho, I can accept it, don't expect me to like it. :wink:

by **Fresh8** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:45 pm

Sit, I hope, I really hope this doesn't offend you but please, I beg you please

No it doesnt offend me!

shut the fuck up

Why dont u?!

It's bad enough LA is scum of the West

How are they the scum of the West? You gotta be joking! Give me an explanation!

I've got a fuckwit Kobe fan preaching to me? Seriously, stop preaching about shit you wouldn't do.

Fine- I wont complain about you again...but I wouldnt have in the first place if you weren't being so pessimistic!

Oh, and just to remind you of your so called loyalty

That loyalty? I was just asking a question! Do I root for the player as well as the Lakers! Or do I go,"Screw Kobe!" (?) Man- I don't deny I said: "I just worried that if Kobe leaves to the Clippers...who do i root for?" and I don't take it back!

I was worried if my favourite player moved teams...who do I go for!? Don't you understand! It didnt mean I was gonna hate the Lakers- just asking if I should go for Kobe's new team.

don't expect me to like it

Fine- don't like it!

by **Jackal** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:50 pm

Just don't preach to me, that's all.

Let me be as pessimistic as I feel like being.

by **alexboom** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:04 pm

hey, can you have an argument without immediately saying the holly saint "stfu" ? :lol:

by **Jackal** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:01 pm

Ehm, ok.

I've had quite a few discussions where I didn't use the phrase stfu.

I'm just tired of arguing about the same monotonous shit each time. All the Laker threads turn out the same way...

Kobe fans proclaim him to be the shiznit & other fans say Shaq was of importance & (was) still the franchise player.

After giving them facts, having opinions from others (non Kobe fans I mean), even converting one to see that Shaq was and would've remained the more valuable player on the Lakers' Team, yet...they just say, no no, bye bye.

If I'm going to get responses like that & don't even have someone like Sit participate in those threads, what's the use?

Don't take me in the wrong, I say shut the fuck up to people I really don't want to listen to.

Steve04, I can have a discussion with him because he brings valid points pointing out both the weaknesses & strengths of Bryant, someone like Sit will come into the thread and post something like "Yeah, I agree" and bam, he's gone. Wtf is that all about? You expect me to have a discussion like that?

One liners don't make for good discussion, nor do blind love. Some Kobe fans (the very rare kind like Gamewiz) have the ability to point out their idol's weaknesses, Sit & Co, can't.
For those kind of people, I always have a spare "stfu" lying around. :wink:

Seriously, I just dislike the fact he's trying to get me to like the decisions that have been made, I dislike the fact he reply's to each and every post of mine asking me the same stupid question..."Why are you so sad?"

I've answered it so often, nothing but STFU comes out anymore, I'll answer it again.

We went from Championship contender to 1-2 round contender. You can't expect me to be jumping for joy, can you?
Sit here on the other hand, just goes through every thread being totally unrealistic, "Who will win the Championship?" Sit: Lakers. (Not really, but GOO LAKEERS!! W00t one!11! Yippie!!oneone1!!!one!!)

Be realistic, the moves sucked, just say they sucked...don't go OOH WE GONNA WIN NO MATTA WHUT !!1!1!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

Now Alexboom, stfu.

by **[Q]** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:51 am

I think it's messed up how Kobe was instrumental in the departure of Shaq & Phil... and then he makes a whole lot of money off of that.

Direct quote from SLAM Magazine: "Too bad Kobe couldn't opt out of his trial" :lol:

by **Fresh8** on Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:04 pm

Jackal- I have pointed out Kobe's weakness...ahem- occasionally! But I dont have the time to write huge posts and stuff...I got other thing to do man!

And I didnt say this was the best move...I think the Lakers should have persued Wade as well...but hey- it's ur opinion if u think i dont come up with a reasonable argument!

If I was to point out Kobe bad points all the time..I'd just repeat myself! And I dont think if I'm trying to promote my player I should be saying he's bad...right?Man- I was just trying to find out why you were whining about the decisions made man- I'm not trying to change ur opinion!

I dont think anyone in this forum wants to change ur views!

And if u hate management so much! Go and support another team!

STFU to you too! :lol:

by **Jackal** on Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:14 pm

Sit wrote:And if u hate management so much! Go and support another team!

That was you're option remember? Not mine.

"Kobe or Lakers? Hmm, If Kobe goes to the Clips, I'ma support him, yay!"
:roll:

by **Steve04** on Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:01 am

qballer wrote:I think it's messed up how Kobe was instrumental in the departure of Shaq & Phil... and then he makes a whole lot of money off of that.

I think it's messed up that people are going around repeating UNFOUNDED rumor as FACT. There is a difference. There is absolutely no documented evidence that Kobe was behind Shaq and Phil's departure. Kobe himself admitted he at times clashed with both but would not have minded playing the rest of his career with either. Shaq is gone because he felt disrespected by Jerry Buss and in turn disrespected him and was shipped away. Phil Jackson is gone because of personal issues with Buss, and probably Kobe. Check your facts and don't believe everything you hear just because it sounds best to your ears.

by **Alcoholic** on Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:11 am

I think Phil Jackson left first. That was HIS decision. If Phil leaves, Shaq leaves too, said Shaq. So then Shaq ASKED to be traded because Phil left (and also problems vs management). I don't think Kobe was the one that planned this all out... it just happened to go his way, so he decided to stay.

by **[Q]** on Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:29 pm

Alcoholic wrote:I think Phil Jackson left first. That was HIS decision. If Phil leaves, Shaq leaves too, said Shaq. So then Shaq ASKED to be traded because Phil left (and also problems vs management). I don't think Kobe was the one that planned this all out... it just happened to go his way, so he decided to stay.

As far as I know, the Phil thing was Jerry Buss's decision, in order to please Kobe to resign him, and the Shaq trade was because of the Phil thing... it's all politics... :roll:

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