FINALS MVP

by **Jackal** on Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:06 am

I still pick Shaq.

Pff, it could go to Horace Grant for pete's sake, just let LA win. :oops:

by **magius** on Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:35 am

i dont understand why people moan about shaq having a big mouth. I personally prefer someone who speaks his mind rather than some lamer who just says what good pr dictates. same with tmac, at least he's telling people straight up what he expects-- to win, i prefer that over someone who just moans behind managements back like a prick.

if LA wins-- shaq
if Detroit wins -- rip hamilton, but it should be big ben.

by **Jackal** on Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:12 am

magius wrote:i dont understand why people moan about shaq having a big mouth. I personally prefer someone who speaks his mind rather than some lamer who just says what good pr dictates. same with tmac, at least he's telling people straight up what he expects-- to win, i prefer that over someone who just moans behind managements back like a prick.

if LA wins-- shaq
if Detroit wins -- rip hamilton, but it should be big ben.

*sigh* See, great minds think alike, why doesn't anybody else agree with me this much? Oh wait, that would be no fun. This is freaky though.

by **macias buto** on Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:19 am

Andrew wrote:I wonder if the Finals MVP would be awarded to a Laker even if they lost. After all, the first Finals MVP trophy was awarded to a member of the losing team (Jerry West) so it wouldn't be without precedent. The main men for the Lakers are also bigger names than the main men for the Pistons, and Shaq has the best individual numbers so far.

If the Pistons win and the MVP is handed out to a Laker, there will be a riot in the city of Detroit

by . on Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:20 pm

Kobe also says whats on his mind, but when he does it he is either cocky or disrespectfull.

by **magius** on Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:34 pm

But with kobe, a lot of the time he's out their playing the pr game, saying the right thing, letting people think he's a real good guy, and then suddenly out of nowhere he speaks his mind once in awhile. You can't go halfway, you have to be one or the other and stick with it. If you're going to have a big mouth, you better have a big mouth all the way

look at iverson, in a burst of honesty, telling the press practice is stupid, and then suddenly next thing you know he's in love with Larry Brown "Oh Coach Brown, he's beautiful", "Oh Coach Brown he's wonderful". Holy dogfarts for brains, gimme a break. Then when Brown gets fired "Oh Brown he was like a father to me", uh huh, and my feet smell like lollipops.

Hey i'm not saying its bad to play the pr game, some guys just dont want the media attention and who can blame them. My point originally is that to me its not a fault to be outpsoken, and to that i add: as long as you're consisent in your out (or soft) spokeness.

by **Amphatoast** on Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:33 pm

unless Kobe drops 90+ over the next 3 games, it's between Shaq and Billups

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:10 am

I agree. After Rip's performance in Game 3 I thought he might take the honour, but Billups has been huge throughout the series, including the crucial Game 4. Not that Rip's been playing badly, Billups is just having a great Finals series.

by **magius** on Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:24 pm

i wonder why the lakers always get burned by points, its not like fish is a horrible defender.

by **VMS** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:27 am

Micchy_boy wrote:3. kobe will be up against lets say Rip, Prince and Billups. (i dont see james and hunter can guard him) these 3 player cant stop kobe one on one.
4. Kobe will be motivated to win it coz it might be his last as lakers (pls God don't)
5. Well coz i want to coz he is my favorite player.
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Can't guard him? CAN'T GUARD HIM??? Kobe has his moments, true, but he is infamous for being the most INCONSISTENT players of all time. Averages, lets say 29 ppg. Come's into the finals, and sucks. Hits a lucky shot: Everybody loves him again. I'm so tired of that crap. Besides, in game 4, Prince just handed Kobe his own ass. Prince flat out shut him down.

Don't even get me started on that crap about "If the Lakers are in it, a Laker will win the MVP award" This is the worst the Lakers have ever played in their multi-decade history. Kobe and Shaq can not carry this team. It's been proven by the Pistons. They continue to shut down everybody but Kobe and Shaq, and the Lakers continue to lose. Coincidence? No.

btw, if you take this personally, you don't know me very well

And I do expect some hate from this remark

by **Riot** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:36 am

Chauncey, MY BOI!

by **Amphatoast** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:55 pm

MVP was as I predicted, Billups

funny thing about it was that Billups is the first player since, Joe Dumars (a piston!) to win the MVP before appearing to an All-Star game.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:05 pm

Well-deserved. I thought Rip might get it after Game 3, but Chauncey truly has had a great series.

by **magius** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:21 pm

you jinxed my choice!! i still think the TRUE finals mvp is ben wallace because he defines the team, but it just goes to show what a great TEAM detroit is, you could probably make a case for every starter as the mvp.

by **Riot** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:21 pm

Give it to Darko. I think I saw him actually break a sweat.

by **Charlie Martel** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:23 pm

IMO it should have gone to Shaq. I don't care if his team lost, without him every game would have been a 40+ point massacre. :lol:

by **Matt** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:47 pm

i predicted Billups and he won :lol:

by **matmat8** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:06 pm

This should become the "playoffs" MVP instead of the "finals" MVP...then it would got to rip, IMO.
Billups is the "finals" MVP though...congrats

by . on Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:56 pm

I still havent read any articles about the the game last night, but when was the last time that a player won the MVP while he has never been selected for a All-Star team?

by **hmm** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:09 pm

by **Macca** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:33 pm

Billups deserved to win the award and did, and although I'm biased towards Ben Wallace, he wouldn't get it, no dissrespect, but suppose he'd have to touch all areas to be even considred, maybe if they had a Defensive Player of the Finals Award, he'd be in the running for that.

Rasheed was an option that I though might get it, but was held up by the Lakers like someone said. Rip proabaly didn't have the upper hand over Kobe until the last 3 games or so, but played really well in the PO's. But Billups or Rasheed were my two. Another MoTown gurad getting the MVP... cool!!

Macca

by **Matt** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:25 pm

well i still think Billups was MVP, he stepped up big time and even when Kobe was guarding him he didn't compromise the teams mission, he dished out 5 assists in the 1st i think along with 6 points. he had that nice crossover and1 on Payton

Everyone should have been considered for MVP

by **Donyell** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:41 pm

Shaq should have been mvp.

by **hmm** on Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:51 pm

by **Charlie Martel** on Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:38 am

k08e4mvp wrote:I still havent read any articles about the the game last night, but when was the last time that a player won the MVP while he has never been selected for a All-Star team?

Al Michaels claimed it was Joe Dumars.

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