What do u think about YAOMING?

how can he still be so skinny at 310lbs... where did all that weight go?
i mean.. he's TALL but he doesn't look like he has that much muscle/fat..

that's coz he's freakin 7'6"!!!!
and yes ... he does look bigger than he did last year ... and he's probably going to gain more weight

He has strong legs, Idiot...

Yao will definitely be the best center in the NBA in 4 years... I see him averaging 22, 12 and 3 per... Just wait...

22-12-3 isnt even good when your 7'6. KG avgs 25-14-5 assist-2 blocks every game and hes what 7'0. Yao will never be as great as you guys think.

KG never played 32 mins per game, his least minutes were in is rookie year where he played 28mpg. Yao played 29mpg last year and compared to KG's rookie year, he beat him in everything but steals and assists.

In his Sophomore year, KG played 38.9mpg and averaged 17ppg, 8rpg, 3.1apg, 1.36spg, and 2.12bpg. Considering he played more minutes and rebounded less and also Yao would have the same amount of blocks if he played those minutes, Yao isn't far behind at all.

Your comparing minutes ??? God save us. The fact is that means KG was ready to play more. Yao is not rdy nor can he handle 38-40 mins a game. Yao does not get a break he plays BBall all year if hes not here hes in china playing on a team. He will never have the energy to play 39 mins a game aslong as china is making him play over there to.

The fact is YAO is only scoring and doing what he is doing because hes 7'6

The fact is YAO is only scoring and doing what he is doing because hes 7'6

i credit you for sticking to your guns, but don't use this statement to support your case against yao ming. if anything, people will just use this against you
anyone who knows a lick of basketball knows yao is no brute who solely relies on his size to "score and do what he's doing".

if Yao was 6'7 would he have this much hype ?? ask yourself that

if yao was 6'7" he would suck in the nba period.. only reason he has so much hype is because hes 7'6"

if yao was 6'7" he would suck in the nba period.. only reason he has so much hype is because hes 7'6"

That doesn't make sense. If you took a foot of height off of each NBA player they would all be worse players. If you apply that logic on Shaq, then I can say "if shaq was 6'7" he would suck in the nba period."

Yao isn't good just bc he's super tall. He has some great offensive skills too.

What im saying is Yao would never of been a 1st rd pick if he were 6'7-6'10 the reason he has this much hype is because hes taller then everyone else.

he is 7'6 and he's good
what can you do about it?
there's no 'what if's
he's not 6'7

you can deny to yourself that he sucks and hate him or w/e...
just keep it to yourself

man ... all of u guys are forgetting what kind of advantages come with his height .... nobody can score as easily as he can ... and its just his freakin 2nd year in the league ... dont expect him to start scoring 30 ppg rite away. he needs to get used to the system first. he needs to get comfortable. then he'll deliver .... just wait and see
and did anybody watch lakers vs. rockets before the all star game?? shaq couldnt do shit agianst yao ming ... the only way shaq scored was with his dunks (most of them coming when yao was on the bench). now just imagine how much better yao will be in the coming years. he can score ... he can defend ... that's what a great bball player can do. that's what MJ did ... and that is why he's considered the best that ever played. yao will just dominate the basketball world in the future ... the championship will go thru him ..... unless they find somebody that is 7'9" and weighs 400 lbs and has shaq's skills.

man ... all of u guys are forgetting what kind of advantages come with his height .... nobody can score as easily as he can ... and its just his freakin 2nd year in the league ... dont expect him to start scoring 30 ppg rite away. he needs to get used to the system first. he needs to get comfortable. then he'll deliver .... just wait and see
and did anybody watch lakers vs. rockets before the all star game?? shaq couldnt do shit agianst yao ming ... the only way shaq scored was with his dunks (most of them coming when yao was on the bench). now just imagine how much better yao will be in the coming years. he can score ... he can defend ... that's what a great bball player can do. that's what MJ did ... and that is why he's considered the best that ever played. yao will just dominate the basketball world in the future ... the championship will go thru him ..... unless they find somebody that is 7'9" and weighs 400 lbs and has shaq's skills.

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What im saying is Yao would never of been a 1st rd pick if he were 6'7-6'10 the reason he has this much hype is because hes taller then everyone else.

if yao was 6'7" he would suck in the nba period.. only reason he has so much hype is because hes 7'6"

That's just some stupid arguments. If he were 6'7 he probably would be a SG or SF, or maybe he would not be playing at all. Think about it for a second, If he were a foot smaller, and 100 lbs. lighter, he would be a lot quicker and could jump more, and other things that he can't do now.
LeBron is one the most hyped players in the history, and he's 6'8...what if he were 5'8??

Your looking at it wrong.

Lebron has raw skills, hes athletic as they come.

Yao is tall, not quick, and cant jump.

Yes he has good fundamentls or whatever lol. But thats it, you cant build a team around him because at this time hes not a dominate player. The fact he started the all star game is an insult to all the Cs out there who work there ass off and dont get in.

He will never be the best player in the NBA at any time in the future (by that i mean he will never be considered the #1 player in the NBA that year). Why ???

Melo,
Lebron,
Wade,
Bosh,
KG,
TD,
Kobe,
T-Mac,
VC,

All these guys have the potential or are better then Yao right now.

Do you guys realize KG is only 28 and hes a 10 year pro almost.

And what if Lebron was 7'6?

Your looking at it wrong.

Lebron has raw skills, hes athletic as they come.

Yao is tall, not quick, and cant jump.

Yes he has good fundamentls or whatever lol. But thats it, you cant build a team around him because at this time hes not a dominate player. The fact he started the all star game is an insult to all the Cs out there who work there ass off and dont get in.

He will never be the best player in the NBA at any time in the future (by that i mean he will never be considered the #1 player in the NBA that year). Why ???

Melo,
Lebron,
Wade,
Bosh,
KG,
TD,
Kobe,
T-Mac,
VC,

All these guys have the potential or are better then Yao right now.

Do you guys realize KG is only 28 and hes a 10 year pro almost.

I disagree with some of the statements you made. First of all, Yao doesnt need to jump becuz he's 7'6"! And Yao has been working his ass off all season and all last year. Another thing is that Yao has it harder than the other centers because of all the media hype. He has so many expectations on him and so far, he's lived up to that (just like lebron).

When you said he'll never be number 1 in the NBA ... just consider this. Tell me who can guard him ... and tell me who can score on him 2 or 3 years down the line. I dont think anybody can. He will be more dominating on defense than anybody in the history of the league ... just by his presence.

And dont get me wrong ... i'm not bagging on lebron or kobe or any of the other players. They're great players with great athletic skills. But Yao has the height advantage and that's what gives him the edge. He's also very athletic for a man his size.

Referring to someone's statement earlier in this thread where they said yao needs to lose weight so he can get faster and jump higher. I dont think he would get faster and jump higher if he lost weight. I'm sorry, but i cant imagine someone that is 7'6" with a 40 inch vertical. He doesnt need to jump cuz he's so damn tall. He can probably dunk without jumping. And all he needs to do is lean over his defender to block the shot.

If you think i'm wrong .. then please explain why it is important for him to jump higher.

However, i agree with your other statements. Yao is not one of the best players in the league right now. To be one of them, he needs to get even more stronger and tougher. That's up to him. It depends how hard he will work. We can just sit here and talk ... but its up to him to become a better player. However, if you look at his potential, nobody has a higher potential than him in the league right now. Not even Lebron (who comes in second).

And dude, what is Bosh doing in your top players list??!?!?!?!!!!

It was kinda top young players list lol. I did not put shaq because hes in 30s.


Who can score on Yao in 2 years ???

Shaq,
KG,
TD,
Kobe,
T-Mac,
Peja,
Lebron,
Melo

The fact is becaues your tall does not make you a good shot blocker. Its all about timing and willingness to go after the ball.

It was kinda top young players list lol. I did not put shaq because hes in 30s.


Who can score on Yao in 2 years ???

Shaq,
KG,
TD,
Kobe,
T-Mac,
Peja,
Lebron,
Melo

The fact is becaues your tall does not make you a good shot blocker. Its all about timing and willingness to go after the ball.

yes it is about timing and willingness to get the blocked shots and rebounds ... but that is something he will develop (hopefully). it's up to him ... we'll just have to wait and see.
just becuz i said he's going to be the best player to ever play doesnt mean that he really will. He has the potential to do it ... and to live up to that, it's up to him.

and we'll see if any of those players that you listed can beat up yao on offense and defnese 2 to 3 years from now.

You dont think KG, TD will dominate in 2-3 years ?? LOL Theyve been doing it the past 4-5 lol. Anyways im not saying Yao is even bad. My arguement is he did not deserve to be a starter in all star game, and that right now hes overrated because he does not have the desire right now to be the go to guy.

Yao might be great odds are he will be an MVP once or twice in his career but best ever ?? Comeon


I would Also like to add 2 stars cannot win a ring. Shaq and kobe had fisher, george, fox, horry.

TD had Parker, Emanuel, rose

Even in MJs days he had pippen, rodman, etc

You need a team to win and right now the Rockets do not have a team to win a ring and with the current contracts I would bet they dont win a ring for next 3-5 years.

All the last 10-15 championship teams (except Jordan's) had a big who was their best player... I don't see Kobe or T-Mac being like Jordan yet... So it's Yao time...

yeah KG and TD will still be great players in 2 to 3 years. but i wasnt saying yao will reach his prime in 2 to 3 years. However, KG and TD cant do squat against Yao when they play the rockets in two years.

And regarding your statements .... every team has role players. Lakers had Fisher, Fox, Horry. Spurs had malik rose, tony parker, etc ..... Chicago had rodman, harper, kukoc. Houston has some of these players too. Mo Taylor, Cuttino Mobley, Boston Nachbar (will develop), Kelvin Cato, etc ...... However, Rockets arent ready to win a championship just yet. They lack the desire right now. However, if they just get the right people around Yao then they can.

Yao will just be unstoppable in the next couple of years ... if he lives up to the expectations.

They lack the desire right now.

I'd say they lack talent... They need a better 3 and 4, too... Cato and JJ aren't proper starting players on a contender... Would make a nice bench though.

Yao has to stop playing all summer long in China, too... That would help his legs...

Referring to someone's statement earlier in this thread where they said yao needs to lose weight so he can get faster and jump higher. I dont think he would get faster and jump higher if he lost weight. I'm sorry, but i cant imagine someone that is 7'6" with a 40 inch vertical. He doesnt need to jump cuz he's so damn tall. He can probably dunk without jumping. And all he needs to do is lean over his defender to block the shot.

I was saying that if Yao were a foot smaller and 100 lbs. lighter he could jump higher and run faster.
That was answering Mark's post about Yao being overrated 'cause he's 7'6, and he wouldn't be as hyped if he were 6'8 or something.