Artest to Pacers: Trade me

[Riot]

I told you Indy, you weren't going to get a player like Odom or Rashard Lewis. You said it was looking good that you were going to get Odom or Maggette or something and nobody wants to deal those kind of players for Artest. Bummer.

[air gordon]

Foster in the deal works in the trade checker i think. so if that deal goes through, i think it's a great deal for GSW (of course assuming Artest stays level headed). The contract Mullin gave to Murphy was a mistake. It looked promising in the beginning when Murphy put on that weight, but Murphy still plays like a SF.

The trade gets rid of that contract, addresses their biggest need (defense), and should make them a lock to make the playoffs.

I like the Pietrus addition for Pacers. Not so much the Murphy one though. Murphy would be good for the offense but he's a terrible fit for Indy's D. Other then rebounds, Murphy is a very poor post defender

[maes]

It's interesting that a team famous for defense will now have two of the worst defenders at the PF position in the league, Croshere (ranked 54 of 57 ) & Murphy (ranked 50 of 57 ).

http://www.82games.com/rosenbaum3.htm

Still, i think he could probably learn some defense on that kind of team, often times a team's playstyle is contagious.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

Yes, Air G is right. I forgot to mention that the only thing that matches Murphy's atrocious defense is his equally, if not more, atrocious contract.

Furthermore, I don't think JO will like that trade more. It would mean that he is converted to Center, once and for all.

EDIT: If that trade was to happen while Artest was active and seemingly happy, it would be more of a steal for the Warriors. But now, with Ron inactive for 3 weeks, in effect what the Pacers will be doing is to add 2 quality players to their current roster, and not lose anything. So in my books, this trade seems fair for both teams, although GS gets the better end financially speaking. Artest is HUGELY underpaid for his BASKETBALL skills. But then again, he's a mental bomb, so the risk is anything but minimal. That leaves us with an even trade in the end, all things considered.

[SnitchDevil]

Indy, i heard a different story, i heard that Donnie wanted Bynum. Bynum + fillers couldve gotten us Artest. Mitch didnt want to give up the stud prohect player. I doubt any laker fan would do, the kid has shown how brilliant he already is defensively.

As for Odom, we lost 2 in a row with him leading the team. I hope that's his ticket to indiana.

[dada]

As for Odom, we lost 2 in a row with him leading the team. I hope that's his ticket to indiana.

Odom performed pretty decent in Kobe's absence. I just hope it can carry over when he comes back, and I also hope Kobe took this time off to reflect in how he has been playing so far and how he can more efficient.

[SnitchDevil]

Dada, stats dont tell the story. AK had a lot of weakside blocks, credit that to lamar odom standing around while AK was busy getting those weakside blocks.

Odom is supposed to be our initiator but why the hell does he refuse to cut? It's basic triangle offense. you dont pass the ball and stand around for the rest of the play, you should cut.

[Amphatoast]

The Indiana Pacers want Wally Szczerbiak for Ron Artest, but the Timberwolves have said no thanks. Dialogue between the two teams continues.

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[Fenix]

Indy, i heard a different story, i heard that Donnie wanted Bynum. Bynum + fillers couldve gotten us Artest. Mitch didnt want to give up the stud prohect player. I doubt any laker fan would do, the kid has shown how brilliant he already is defensively.

I know some of you guys say that he's gonna be the new Mutombo, just because he has swatted a couple of shots, but lets get fucking serious. He has shown good basketball smarts, length, size and an average post D (which is superb for a guy of his age), but give me a brake. What exactly do you think with 'defensive brilliance'? Darko lead the preseason in blocking, he has far more advanced offensive game and look where he is now.

[Indy]

Apparently Dunleavy and Ike Diogu are being included in talks too.

I would LOVE to have Diogu, Dunleavey... I'll pass.

[Jackal]

The Indiana Pacers want Wally Szczerbiak for Ron Artest, but the Timberwolves have said no thanks.

That's just hilarious.

[Abctest123]

if golden state gets artest, their starting lineup is deadly

C: Foyle?
PF: Diogu?
SF: Artest
SG: Richardson
PG: Davis

from pg to sf, that can possibly match nj trio of jefferson, kidd, and carter.

[Riot]

The Indiana Pacers want Wally Szczerbiak for Ron Artest, but the Timberwolves have said no thanks.

That's just hilarious.

First off, that is not what I am hearing. I am hearing Kevin McHale basically told Donnie Walsh you can have anyone besides Garnett. I've also heard that Pacers simply don't want Wally's contract.

But not giving up Wally for Artest isn't that far-fetched. Wally has played amazing this season and is healthy for the 2nd season in a row. Our problem is we need a 3rd scorer, trading Wally for Artest would not solve that problem. Instead of having Garnett and Wally we would have Garnett and Artest and our problems would continue. Plus, Artest is unstable and if he decides to do something crazy then we are really screwed.

[Jackal]

Whatever you heard is just that, what you heard.

That sentance was just hilarious.

[Indy]

Riot's right, we didn't want Wally at all.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

I think Wally would be a good fit in Indiana, but a trade straight up would still be lopsided in Minnesota's favor. Not to mention that the salaries would not match, and Indy would have to throw in a filler...

[Indy]

I think Wally would be a good fit in Indiana, but a trade straight up would still be lopsided in Minnesota's favor. Not to mention that the salaries would not match, and Indy would have to throw in a filler...

Nah I don't think he would be. I don't care what Riot says, I'll take Stephen Jackson over Wally any day of the week without batting an eye. Jack is a better defender and rebounder, and he proved yesterday by tearing apart Golden State that he is able to step in to the number 1 scoring role when people are hurt. I'll definitley pass on Wally.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

As long as they do not remain hurt for long, that is. S-jax is not a surefire no 1 option but can fill that role on occasion, when the need arises. As long as the need recedes in the end.

[maes]

I saw this on hoopshype, one paper is reporting no Murphy offer from GSW:

"Of course, the main speculation involves a package featuring Troy Murphy for Artest, which would be a steal for the Warriors. But Dan Fegan, the agent for Murphy, said Thursday that Mullin assured him Murphy would not be included in any trade for Artest, which sounds right to me since Murphy's long-term deal is a major complication."
San Jose Mercury News

"Any trade is more likely to include Ike Diogu and/or Mickael Pietrus. I believe Mullin is loath to trade multiple young players without filling his main need in the low post. Yes, Artest would be a major plus for this team if he could be controlled, and I'm fairly sure that Montgomery couldn't do it.

[Indy]

Ron for Maggette? Its a very hot rumor. Supposedly the ball is in our court.

[Riot]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

Am I the only one who is getting pissed off by all these rumors? A week ago the "hot rumor" was Ike Diogu and Mickael Pietrus and the "ball was in Indiana's court". Now it's Corey Maggette, once again?

Indy, take a deep breath and just let it unfold. You get so worked up in the "hottest rumors". There have been hundreds of "hot rumors" in the month long period that Artest has been on the block.

Please, make it stop!

[Indy]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

Am I the only one who is getting pissed off by all these rumors? A week ago the "hot rumor" was Ike Diogu and Mickael Pietrus and the "ball was in Indiana's court". Now it's Corey Maggette, once again?

Indy, take a deep breath and just let it unfold. You get so worked up in the "hottest rumors". There have been hundreds of "hot rumors" in the month long period that Artest has been on the block.

Please, make it stop!

Don't worry, it'll be over soon.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

If they get Maggette, they better reserve three or four adjacent hospital beds in the training facility because him, Jamaal and JO will be needing them aplenty with their injury history...

[J@3]

Maggette's out for like 6 weeks or something. Seems pointless trading for him, may aswell wait the 6 weeks out and see what other offers come their way.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

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