Artest to Pacers: Trade me

by **dada** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:30 am

Someone was talking about a package for Artest+Tinsley before and even though its probably not likely, it sounds pretty good for me. I love Smush and all but he isnt really racking up the assists or creating anything for other players. I like Tinsley's agressiveness and I think he is a more efficient scorer and passer overall. I wouldnt mind Parker coming off the bench since he probably would be on many teams in the league.

Also, I would hate Jalen Rose in LA. Even though his contract is up in 2 yrs who knows if he will pull a Sprewell.

by **air gordon** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:37 am

as in choke Phil Jackson? :shock:

....

lakers fans are the best (Y)

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:17 pm

Some more words from everyone's favourite source, ESPN: Marc Stein's Daily Dime: Jermaine explains Indy state

Quotes of note:

Stein: It has been three weeks since Ron publicly demanded a trade. Do you and your teammates need a trade to happen soon to really move on?

O'Neal: He doesn't practice with us. We don't see him at all. We talked about it when this first came up, but nobody's worried about that. On Ron's behalf, I would hope that they move pretty fast so he can move on and start playing again. I don't wish anything bad for him. At the same time, I know Donnie [Walsh] is the best CEO in sports. He's going to take his time to do the best thing for this franchise.

Stein: No Pacer was willing to let him come back and try again one more time?

O'Neal: No.

Stein: First he said he's frustrated with his role and coach Rick Carlisle's system and wants to be traded so he can leave all his baggage behind. Now he says he wants to stay. Do you think, deep down, that he really never wanted to be traded?

O'Neal: I really don't think so. I don't think it was even really [frustration with] his role. Every player is going to be talked about in trades. That doesn't mean they're going to trade you, but I think he heard that the Pacers might have been talking about trading him. I don't know if they were or not, but he took it a little personal and he ended up saying something and really overdoing it.

I don't think he realized how deep he was putting himself in it until he did it. Coming off last year, it wasn't the best thing to do. The city didn't take to it too well, obviously, and the organization didn't take to it very well, and definitely the players didn't take to it very well. Especially coming off a season where the city and organization and your teammates totally backed you.

by **SnitchDevil** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:47 pm

VanK wrote:
D-Weaver wrote:
Being a part of ClubLakers of LakersGround is like participating at the Special Olympics. Retards everywhere. Including yourself.

Are you a moron? Is that what you think Special Olympics is?

It was a bad joke, constructed manly to make a point to SnitchDevil.

Well, stop joking then cause you absolutely suck at it. (N)

Now what's wrong with Slovenia? I bet it's a lot better place than Hell. And as we all know...

slovenia<clublakers and lakersground

by **Riot** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:56 pm

D-Weaver wrote:
Being a part of ClubLakers of LakersGround is like participating at the Special Olympics. Retards everywhere. Including yourself.

Are you a moron? Is that what you think Special Olympics is?

Oh you are right, what about the judges and spectators! They aren't retarded!

by **Drex** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:02 pm

Found this somewhere

by **dada** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:12 pm

Drex wrote:
Found this somewhere

Wooow.

by **Jugs** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:38 pm

Drex wrote:
Found this somewhere

LOoooooooooooooL, so true

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:22 pm

Riot wrote:
D-Weaver wrote:
Being a part of ClubLakers of LakersGround is like participating at the Special Olympics. Retards everywhere. Including yourself.

Are you a moron? Is that what you think Special Olympics is?

Oh you are right, what about the judges and spectators! They aren't retarded!

Maybe you should participate in VanK's version of the SE's... j/k :lol:

by **Fenix** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:38 pm

SnitchDevil wrote:slovenia<clublakers and lakersground

What the hell?

by **noodle** on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:41 pm

When will the damn trade be annouced already? The trade process is taking awhile. Well, I guess the Pacers management just has to look through the many trades they were offered....

by **Carmo** on Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:06 am

It will probably be announced when there actually is a trade...

by **dada** on Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:09 am

All the drama. It might turn out to be a shocker to everyone.

by **Indy** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:42 am

Apparently, the Warriors are now front runners, and an offer of Artest/Foster for Pietrus/Troy Murphy is on the table. I say pull the trigger, just get something done.

Murphy is a fantastic player, I'd love to get him. This return give back something that I'd be willing to part with Foster for. I like this deal, get it done.

Then again, who knows if its true or not.

by **Its_asdf** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:31 am

That would be a decent move for the Pacers. They'd get two young players with a lot of potential. Murphy's a solid double double guy and Pietrus has the ability to become a very good defender, although not as good as Artest.

by **Riot** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:28 am

Realgm says that the Pacers like Rashad McCants and that the Pacers are interested in cap relief. :wink:

I've heard things like the Timberwolves re-signing Sprewell for like $15 mill a year and make the last two years in the contrac team options so basically it would be a $15 million expiring and trade it to take on contracts. So the Timberwolvse could generate a huge expiring by re-signing Sprewell.

by **SnitchDevil** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:04 pm

Apparently, Troy Murphy hasnt been offered because Mullin is keeping him for a bigger trade*cough*pierce*cough*

The centerpiece of the warriors offer is Pietrus. I still think the lakers have a chance to trade Ron without giving LO but no way in the world will Mitch trade Bynum.

Riot, as for the spree re-signing, in numerous laker boards, fans are also talking about signing spree for the remaining mle we have and add him in a deal for artest. :lol:

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:52 pm

Indy wrote:Apparently, the Warriors are now front runners, and an offer of Artest/Foster for Pietrus/Troy Murphy is on the table. I say pull the trigger, just get something done.

Murphy is a fantastic player, I'd love to get him. This return give back something that I'd be willing to part with Foster for. I like this deal, get it done.

Then again, who knows if its true or not.

I myself like that one as well. Murphy is a warrior, but his defense is just plain old atrocious. Pietrus has 'upside', but for some reason I do not like him so much as a player. Too incosistent. I say pull the trigger.

by **Fenix** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:36 pm

Murphy is the new Lafrentz minus the injuries. Trade him. Aren't they trying to build an athletic team? Where do white stiffs fit into that plan?

by **SnitchDevil** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:45 pm

Murphy is the new Lafrentz minus the injuries

Raef can hit the wide open 3 consistently, he was also a damn good shotblocker before he got hurt. Troy Murphy can hit the mid range J consistently and is a better rebounder. 2 very different players. :roll:

Aren't they trying to build an athletic team? Where do white stiffs fit into that plan?

Murphy is not a stiff by any means. His footwork is pretty decent and his rebounding is above average at best. :roll:

by **Fenix** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:55 pm

Their shooting abilities are very much alike and they're both just average athletes. I agree with you that Murphy is a better rebounder (although is offensive rebounding slipped quite a bit since last year) and Lafrentz was a better blocker, but that doesn't mean that their games aren't the same. They're both 6'11 big men rather playing out on the perimeter than inside and they both can't defend.

by **SnitchDevil** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:30 pm

How can they be the same when the other avoids contact(Raef) while the other doesnt(troy)? :lol:

Yeah, they're both 6'11 and white but aside from that they're completely different players.

by **Fenix** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:32 pm

Yes, you're right. Troy Murphy just looks for contact. He's alway in the low post banging people around. Yup, that how it is.

by **SnitchDevil** on Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:43 pm

I never said he looks for contact. :roll:

He doesnt avoid it like raef does. :crazy:

by **Indy** on Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:19 am

Chris Mullin said he has indeed offered Pietrus and Murphy and the ball is in our court. I don't know if its going to be Foster included in the deal or not, but I can say very confidently that this is the deal.

After giving it a lot of thought I like it a lot. Pietrus will be a huge addition to our perimiter defense, and Troy Murphy is a guy who I think is really underrated, will put up excellent numbers and be the best big man to play with JO since Brad Miller.

SnitchDevil, I read that you are wrong about the Lakers having a chance without giving up Lamar. Apparently, Phil offered any combination of players that didn't include Odom and Kobe after taking the Odom offer off the table, and Donnie cut off all talks with Mitch. If I were a Laker fan, I'd be calling for Mitch's head. To get a player of the quality of Ron Artest for Lamar Odom, who should be on his way out anyway, is quite a good deal, and LA failed.

VanK. The Raef comparison makes me laugh. Raef is a pussy who won't attack that basket and doesn't play defense. Troy attacks the hole and is a very underrated ball handler. For a guy that's 6'11" watching him handle the ball is amazing. Troy isn't a good defender, but what he is good at is switching on pick and rolls and defending the perimiter pretty well. Both are pretty weak defenders in the post which is my only problem with this trade.

Artest to Pacers: Trade me

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