Western Finals(2013): SPURS(2) vs GRIZZLIES(5)

[Dc311]

With his 4th block of the night Tim Duncan became the first player in NBA history to record 500 blocks in the postseason.

[Andrew]

Not too shabby at all, he's in some pretty elite company. I'm a little surprised to see him atop the list ahead of Kareem, who has 24 fewer blocks in 35 more Playoff games; I'd have thought he'd been leading the way. Shows you how recently I glanced at those leaders.

Still would've picked Duncan as the Defensive Player of the Year, too.

[Cartar]

And I was hooked on a Live Series game(forgot which but had Mitch Richmond on cover) at that time and had blast playing Grizzlies in that game as a kid. The best basketball game/days of my life as well.

That's probably NBA Live 97.

[koberulz]

The flagrant foul on Ginobili that helped Memphis tie things up in regulation was a bit weak though

I don't understand where people are getting the idea it should be okay to grab a guy's arm and yank it down while he's in mid-air and unable to defend himself. Whether he hit his head or not is irrelevant.

Any other league in the world, Ginobili would've been looking at getting tossed.

[Andrew]

I'm just saying, he milked it for all its worth to make it look even worse.

[_Steve_]

I'm just saying, he milked it for all its worth to make it look even worse.

And you're correct about it. I saw the tons of replays during the game and came to the conclusion that he did not hit the ground with his head first BUT I have to agree to koberez. Manu should have ejected for this kind of foul.
I can remember those fouls to occur on a regular basis during the early 90ies (most of all Knicks and Pistons used those hard fouls pretty much). NBA later commited to protecting it's players and called more flagrant fouls followed by a 1-x game suspension. Manu got very lucky to be allowed to play in game three.

[NovU]

LBJ was fouled in a same manner yesterday. Commentators were saying the refs should review it and call it a flagrant. But LBJ walked it off as if nothing happened and the refs did nothing. In that sense, Tony Allen definitely sold it good.

[Cartar]

LBJ was fouled in a same manner yesterday. Commentators were saying the refs should review it and call it a flagrant. But LBJ walked it off as if nothing happened and the refs did nothing. In that sense, Tony Allen definitely sold it good.

Video of it?

[NovU]

Looked for it but couldn't find it. LBJ(facial expression) looked upset and was on the floor for awhile. But as soon as he got up, he went back to his usual game face.

[shadowgrin]

Proof or ban!

[SoF'nAwesome]

[Andrew]

I'm just saying, he milked it for all its worth to make it look even worse.

And you're correct about it. I saw the tons of replays during the game and came to the conclusion that he did not hit the ground with his head first BUT I have to agree to koberez. Manu should have ejected for this kind of foul.
I can remember those fouls to occur on a regular basis during the early 90ies (most of all Knicks and Pistons used those hard fouls pretty much). NBA later commited to protecting it's players and called more flagrant fouls followed by a 1-x game suspension. Manu got very lucky to be allowed to play in game three.

For his part, Jeff Van Gundy didn't think it was a flagrant foul, but then he was an assistant coach on those Knicks teams of the 90s (and later head coach), so perhaps his viewpoint is a little skewed.

I'd have to concede that it at least constitutes a flagrant one, as you can consider it excessive contact without a play on the ball. I don't think it's enough to warrant a flagrant two and an ejection though, not compared to something like this:

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So yeah, fair point and fair call on it being a flagrant one, but I don't think it's malicious enough to be a flagrant two and an ejection. It seemed like Allen was trying to get that flagrant two call though with his acting, which if we're whipping out the rule book should probably constitute a flop; acting or embellishing contact to influence a call.

In any case, it was a wild finish and a fun game to watch after the Grizzlies made their comeback.

[NovU]

LBJ was fouled in a same manner yesterday. Commentators were saying the refs should review it and call it a flagrant. But LBJ walked it off as if nothing happened and the refs did nothing. In that sense, Tony Allen definitely sold it good.

Video of it?

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Seems like somebody upped it.

You be the judge.

[shadowgrin]

Hibbert used more force than Ginobili in my opinion, but LBJ being a bigger boy, was able to handle the pull-down better.

People should learn about physics.

[NovU]

Are you implying that bigger the body, bigger the fall?

I just think the fouls are very comparable.

[shadowgrin]

The fouls are comparable but.
Newton.
2nd and 3rd.

[NovU]

Shame on you guys. When superstars like Tony Allen gets fouled and pulls off a hollywood acting, everyone goes upset how it should be a flagrant 2 and how Manu should get persecuted for attempted murder because Tony Allen went ape shit grabbing his head mopping the floor. When small market team's nobody like LBJ gets pummelled by a vicious thug Pacers, nobody gives a shit because he's a nobody whom nobody gives a fuck about. And yet you guys had nerves to diss my poll. Not cool man, not cool at all.

[Andrew]

Probably should have been a flagrant one, given the call on Ginobili. You could probably let them both go as regular fouls as they ultimately did with Hibbert, but again I have to concede that there's enough contact without making a play on the ball for it to be a viable flagrant one call. Not a flagrant two, though.

[Stress Fracture]

It wasn't even Hibbert. It's Ian Mahinmi.

[shadowgrin]

[Andrew]

Well, it's kind of confusing, what with Mahinmi's name being so prominently displayed in the preview image of the clip and all. I'm blaming NovU's post, along with that packet of powdered gravy I found in the parking lot.

[Stress Fracture]

They somewhat look like each other. Even the right arm sleeve is pretty much the same

Yep, blame it to the canadien. lol

[NovU]

And here I thought Andrew was COOL! I have no1 to trust here anymoa!

[koberulz]

Probably should have been a flagrant one, given the call on Ginobili. You could probably let them both go as regular fouls as they ultimately did with Hibbert, but again I have to concede that there's enough contact without making a play on the ball for it to be a viable flagrant one call. Not a flagrant two, though.

To me, it's less about the amount of contact than the fact that they're dragging the guy down by an arm while he's in mid-air. That's just asking for a series injury; it's really no different to tunneling, which several leagues in a couple of different sports have been cracking down on severely of late.

[SoF'nAwesome]

The fouls are comparable but.
Newton.
2nd and 3rd.

This post is so epic! So shadowgrin can be cool as well...huh

And here I thought Andrew was COOL! I have no1 to trust here anymoa!

None taken.