Draft 2003

by **Swoosh** on Fri Jun 27, 2003 8:07 pm

This was a sucky sucky draft man, everyone seemed to pick to have two backups at every position, and wtf was bothering West? He should have taken a big man(why trade perkins?), and,to answer andrew question, West's old team had the best draft in my eyes, a real steal in brian cook and the smartest player in walton, they did hell of a job and with kobe and shaq in shape, they are already halfway there(new championship). Lampe fell way too low but it was cuz of his buyout problems, and the bulls with hinrich, dont get it, even the heat surprised me, and kaman with the clips aint a good idea at all, what a total bum this draft, accept the first four only orlando and the lakers did well i'd say so

by **Tuomas** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:14 am

Toronto disappointed me. They shoulda got a big big man, or TJ Ford or Trav Outlaw (imagine VC and Travis Outlaw, some dunking?)

by **GloveGuy** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:23 am

Too bad that's all Travis Outlaw can do. I can't believe he got picked before Ebi, whose much better...

by **Swoosh** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:06 am

I think Toronto did the right thing, but bosh wont contribute this year or next year but after that wauwie... but thats just my humble opion

by **RedTorro** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:08 am

Ok, thought I'd wait a day after the draft to cool down and post my thoughts on the Bulls draft. Why the hell would draft a PG after Jamal played very well towards the end of last season? Having Jay pushing him to play better was exactly the kind of fire under his ass he needed. To put Jamal through that is just going to screw up team chemistry for next year. Can't we just make a run at Arenas? Why didn't they draft Mickael Pietrus???! IMO the Bulls beed to swap picks with Golden State. What the hell is Golden State thinking taking another SG with J Rich there? They were the ones that needed a PG and the Bulls needed an athletic guy like Pietrus. As far as their second round picks go ... 3 more forwards!!!! We already have chandler, Baxter, Fizer,Marshall, Robinson, and Rose!!! We need to get rid of Brunson and Hoiberg!

by **RedTorro** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:13 am

Oh yeah and they also want to make a run at another forward in Juwan Howard!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!! I'm so pissed. :evil:

by **Bill Russell** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 3:15 am

I say the Bulls did the best thing they could after they lost Jay to injury and Wade to the Heat... (N)

by **Tuomas** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 4:20 am

Ebi shoulda gone earlier (to T.O. :wink:

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by **air gordon** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 4:26 am

redbulls.. bulls fans now to have accept what we have and move forward. otherwise- go to the realgm forum and cry with the rest of the bulls fans there. now that i've had time for the hinrich pick to settle in, the bulls did ok with hinrich. he won't be great but we won't be bad.

this may sound crazy but...
a small backcourt of hinrich/crawford is better then williams/crawford. williams may be the better player overall then hinrich, but hinrich's strengths better fill what the bulls need in a PG: better shooter, better defender, better pg skills, more consistent overall.

picking 2 pf's seems questionable but those were made in the 2nd round, which are crapshoots anyway.

i also wonder what GS is doing by picking pietrus.

by **RedTorro** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 4:55 am

"picking 2 pf's seems questionable but those were made in the 2nd round, which are crapshoots anyway"

So why not trade all those second round picks if you have no use for them?? :roll:

by **air gordon** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:12 am

So why not trade all those second round picks if you have no use for them??

what trade proposal(s) do you have in mind???? this is not like nba live franchise mode where you can sucker the cpu into making bad deals with you.

believe it or not- trading 2nd round picks isn't as easy as snapping your fingers, let alone getting anything resembling value in return.

by **RedTorro** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:35 am

Throw in a guy like Fizer or Marshall thats how. The lakers could use a guy like Marshall. Fizer would fit in nicely with the Knicks, mabey you would wrestle away some future picks or Sprewell. :wink:

by **LeBron James** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:36 am

bosh to toronto,next boshanity-lol

by **RedTorro** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:39 am

jason kidd wrote:bosh to toronto,next boshanity-lol

I don't not like green eggs and spam.

by **air gordon** on Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:57 am

Redbulls wrote:Throw in a guy like Fizer or Marshall thats how. The lakers could use a guy like Marshall. Fizer would fit in nicely with the Knicks, mabey you would wrestle away some future picks or Sprewell.

marshall would be nice for the lakers. but the lakers can't give us anything that would be nice for the bulls (not counting those 2 stars)! are you trying to make the bulls or lakers better?

fizer would be a nice fit with the knicks if they didn't have a plethera of undersized PF's there already :wink:

more future picks? ugh!! :roll:

YouTube · by **mp3** on Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:22 am

well i for one was happy with the draft, the knicks got sweetney AND Lampe

surprised that baby shaq fell to the second round

by **RedTorro** on Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:41 am

limpdilznik wrote:
Redbulls wrote:Throw in a guy like Fizer or Marshall thats how. The lakers could use a guy like Marshall. Fizer would fit in nicely with the Knicks, mabey you would wrestle away some future picks or Sprewell.

marshall would be nice for the lakers. but the lakers can't give us anything that would be nice for the bulls (not counting those 2 stars)! are you trying to make the bulls or lakers better?

fizer would be a nice fit with the knicks if they didn't have a plethera of undersized PF's there already

more future picks? ugh!!

I don't have a problem with future picks, esp after Phil, Kobe, and Shaq leave. So I'd swap Marshall for number 1 pick in the 2006 draft. :wink:

by **Jonesy** on Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:35 pm

I few things i noticed about this years draft:

1. While being one of the most boring drafts in history (trades wise) it was probably the deepest draft since 96.

2. Why the hell did the Warriors draft that French sg Pietrus when they already have an abundance of sg's and there were so many quality pg's available, which is what they are gonna need when Gilbert lands in Denver.

3. In the current nba you are almost better off skipping college and getting drafted on "potential" instead of what you have already acheived.

4. There were quite a few steals in this years draft imo:

29. Dallas Mavericks Josh Howard, F, Wake Forest - a solid player who can contribute right away.

32. Los Angeles Lakers (from Toronto) Luke Walton, F, Arizona - Very versatile player who already knows everything he needs to know to succeed in the league.

34. Los Angeles Clippers Sofoklis Schortsanitis, F/C, Greece - big time potential if the Clipps don't screw it up, which they probably will.

38. Washington Wizards Steve Blake, G, Maryland - Blake will be a solid pg in the nba.

43. Milwaukee Bucks Keith Bogans, G, Kentucky - was probably the most dominant player at pre-draft workouts along with Troy Bell and will be an immediate contributor at both ends of the floor if he can get any playing time with the Bucks.

51. New Jersey Nets Kyle Korver , F, Creighton
(traded to Philadelphia) - Big time talent who can shoot as well as anyone in the ncaa and is a legitimate 6'10. I can't believe this guy slipped so low (he was even in consideration for national player of the year last year) but it is a nice pickup by the 76ers for such a low pick.

5. I was surprised to see that Jason Gardener wasn't picked at all. He was a solid pg for his years at Arizona and would have made a nice reserve pg in the L. Probably his lack of height and relatively poor outside shot hurt his chances. He'll probably still show up in somebody's summer league team.

6. I was surprised to see UNLV's Marcus Banks selected so high (13th overall), didn't think he was that good.

7. It was great to see the Eastern conference get some potentially great players to hopefully even things out a bit in the not too distant future.

8. Knicks pick of Sweetney was a good one if a bit strange due to their logjam at the 4 spot (McDyess, Spoon, Kurt Thomas, Othella Harrington and now Sweetney) - guess we will see a trade fairly soon in NYC.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:50 pm

8. Knicks pick of Sweetney was a good one if a bit strange due to their logjam at the 4 spot (McDyess, Spoon, Kurt Thomas, Othella Harrington and now Sweetney) - guess we will see a trade fairly soon in NYC.

The Knicks will probably keep playing Thomas at centre, Harrington is a free agent and there's no timetable for McDyess's return. IMO, Sweetney is an insurance policy - someone who can play significant minutes (ie more than 10 minutes every couple of games) if the worst happens.

by **airtsinelas** on Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:12 pm

Too bad if we are going to keep Thomas at Center, we are in trouble because he is undersized, he's good at the PF spot but we got Dice and Sweets for that. Hopefully, Lampe would come here now instead of some European teams keeping him there.

by **Rens** on Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:43 am

Harrington is signed through 04/05.

YouTube · by **mp3** on Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:19 am

Harrington has said he wants out so i think he will be traded before the start of the season. Andrew's right Mike Sweetney is an insurance policy, if mcdyess doesnt come back anytime soon or if he isnt the same player that he was ( which is more than likely) then they sweetney there to carry the load. ive heard that the knicks are now trying to package Weatherspoon in on a Sprewell trade, and that the knicks main free agent target is Radoslav Nesterovic.
also saw this today....
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story ... 7663c.html

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:23 pm

Harrington is signed through 04/05.

I read that he could opt out of his contract this offseason. I could be wrong though.

by **Rens** on Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:21 am

Ah I just found the player option on him, that's right. I don't think he'd get as much money as he makes now though (almost 3 million) if he'd opt out. The FA market is pretty heavy on PF/Cs. He could become a FA though, true.
Look at the botton:

TRANSACTIONS
Coming Soon.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:56 pm

It's since been updated:

TRANSACTIONS
07/01/03: Othella Harrington of the Knicks exercised the player option in his contract. He is now guaranteed through the 2003-04 season.

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