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Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:49 pm

Van Exel was aweosme back in the day :D What are you guys on about? (Just to make myself clear, like everyone else, Gordon isn't worth 70 mil)

Anyway a lil off topic, I'm waiting to see when Gordon decides he wants to commit to Great Britain bball like Deng has.

Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:20 pm

Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon denied a New York Daily News report that claimed he was in the market for a five-year, $70 million contract extension.

He is eligible to become a restricted free agent after the season. Asked whether $55 million is closer to the truth, Gordon said, "No comment."


55$ for 5 years is reasonable..

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:25 am

Shannon wrote:
Gordon is smart but he is asking way too much. He should be fine with 20 - 40 mil.


$20m!? If it's a 5 year deal then that's what - $4m a year. That's half of what Kurt Thomas get's. Your really underestimating his worth, I think he is close to Ray Allen's level and will reach that level in a couple years.

Gordon - 33.0 MPG | 21.4 PPG | 3.1 RPG | 3.6 APG | 45% FG | 41% 3PT | 86% FT

Allen - 40.3 MPG | 26.4 PPG | 4.5 RPG | 4.1 APG | 44% FG | 37% 3PT | 90% FT

And just for reference, Ray's season at the same age:

Allen - 34.4 MPG | 17.1 PPG | 4.2 RPG | 3.6 APG | 45% FG | 36% 3PT | 90% FT

I think he's heavily underestimated here. A rich man's Nick Van Exel?


I am not underestimating Gordon but I am really sorry for putting his value too low. :oops:

Shannon, please reconsider this post. Okay, I think you are right, 20 million is a bit too low, but still 70 million is too much still so i think 50 - 60 million will be fine for him now giving him 10-12 million a year in a 5 year contract. You're also right that he is on the same level of Allen (when Allen was on his age).

Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:05 am

i think you are crazy if you think he will hit ray allens level

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:10 am

in my opinion he is better than allen! but thats only one guys opinion. maybe he will be the next gordon er jordan for the bulls.
my bulls rundown
wallace- better than longley and wennington but not perdue (sp?)
nocioni showin flashes of rodmans d with decent offense
deng- another kukoc without the three?
gordon - not yet jordanesq, but maybe somday
hinrich- could have a career like harper, if i remember right harper lit it up his first few years till he went to the clipps, but hopefully better.
duhon- better d than kerr?
thomas - jury still out.
smith a horace grant getting old type player?
khryapa- dickey simpkins anyone?
noah
curry
sefolosha- my personal choice for next pippen
griffin- next burrell?

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:29 am

No. Stop.

Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:40 am

:idea: ok ok ill stop. :wink:

Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:01 am

puttincomputers wrote:wallace- better than longley and wennington but not perdue (sp?)


Haha. You just said Will Perdue is better then Ben Wallace. The funniest part of this statement is that both Longley and Wennington are MILES better then Will Perdue.

Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:33 pm

nocioni showin flashes of rodmans d


:shock:

i think you are crazy if you think he will hit ray allens level


I think he's better at the same age, so I see no reason to think he won't continue to improve up to and maybe past Allen's level. I think if you were to give Ben 40 minutes a game and put him in Seattle in Ray's position, he would have a similar impact.

Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:35 pm

Shannon wrote:I think if you were to give Ben 40 minutes a game and put him in Seattle in Ray's position, he would have a similar impact.

Zero?

Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:07 pm

Indy wrote:
puttincomputers wrote:wallace- better than longley and wennington but not perdue (sp?)


Haha. You just said Will Perdue is better then Ben Wallace. The funniest part of this statement is that both Longley and Wennington are MILES better then Will Perdue.


hmm maybe your right! :oops: all i know was i liked him, mostly because of his big feet! :roll: yes i was a crazy kid back then.

Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:12 pm

Then?

Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:31 pm

Benji, I mean in comparison to Ray's years as a Sonic, not as a Celtic.

Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:32 pm

all i know was i liked him, mostly because of his big feet!


You know what that means... :P

Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:40 pm

Shannon wrote:Benji, I mean in comparison to Ray's years as a Sonic, not as a Celtic.

I know what you meant, I was focused on the wording and phrasing of it. Maybe I should have included -> ;)

Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:19 pm

hey guys! I found this!
"Chicago Bulls' Ben Gordon denied a New York Daily News report that claimed he was in the market for a five-year, $70 million contract extension. He is eligible to become a restricted free agent after the season. Asked whether $55 million is closer to the truth, Gordon said, "No comment." "

Source: Daily Southtown



55mill is closer

Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:30 pm

-km- wrote:
Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon denied a New York Daily News report that claimed he was in the market for a five-year, $70 million contract extension.

He is eligible to become a restricted free agent after the season. Asked whether $55 million is closer to the truth, Gordon said, "No comment."



hey guys! I found this!
"Chicago Bulls' Ben Gordon denied a New York Daily News report that claimed he was in the market for a five-year, $70 million contract extension. He is eligible to become a restricted free agent after the season. Asked whether $55 million is closer to the truth, Gordon said, "No comment." "


Did you find it on this very page?

I'd be very surprised if the Bulls were even negotiating with Ben before Deng, given that all indications are that Deng is the top extension priority.

Gordon's probably hired Yi's people trying to force the Bulls' hand.

But the 55 mil is reasonable. And completely worth it.

Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:02 am

Roberto wrote:If he (and other big shots) really wanna win then he shoulda been asking for what he deserves not something he would deserve in a couple of years. The swagger on Andrew's avatar tells it all.

Greed plays a big role, as usual, I should say. Sprewell-esque. :x

Dolla bills yo.


That's assuming he even asked for $70 million in the first place. I suppose one can't help but be skeptical and somewhat cynical whenever there's a denial but it's not as though the initial report was backed up by much evidence either: two lines amongst other league notes that offered no quotes or further information such as when and where he reportedly made those demands or commented that he felt he was worth $70 million.

It's not unlike all the tabloids and gelebrity gossip websites/magazines that attribute information to "a source" or "a pal". You can't believe everything you read, particularly when there's very little to back it up. Perhaps I am wrong, though I'm inclined to believe that the $70 million report is exaggerated, misquoted or just plain made up. I'm certainly hoping that is the case. As far as Gordon offering no comment on a figure of $55 million, that could simply be a case of a player not wishing to discuss the situation or negotiate through the media.
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