high school 2 the pro's

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:41 pm

yes he did, but not for long, bak inthose days u had to wait untill ur class is graduated b4 u can go into nba, so he played with kansas and then for globe troters for a while.

That's right. But he didn't go straight from high school to the NBA.

kemp wanted to go to collage but becasue he was "falsly" accused of use of drugs, the charges droped but the skol figured it will look bad if it had a student like that, so they calceled his scolership, he then got a chanse to go in nba.

Wasn't it an incident involving stolen jewellery? Nit-picking I know, but I ask out of interest.

by **Dert** on Thu Mar 06, 2003 2:38 am

Well is it right to be comparing college players to high schoolers?

I mean, the ratio of College players to high schoolers is not even close to being 1:1.

Someone said that the ration of college players that became superstars to high school players that became superstars is 7 to 3. So does that mean that for every 3 bad high schoolers there are 7 bad college players?

by **scubilete** on Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:40 am

I really think you should use their terms. Since they said superstars, it would be 7 superstars from college when from HS you would get 3. If you are going to use other terms, it would be a switch, for every 7 bad HS, it would be 3 bad college guys.

If they used it for superstars, that's the possibility. If you are going to use the it for the opposite so you need to switch the numbers.

by **magius** on Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:28 pm

that numbers gonna change. This high school drafting thing is booming now, way back when it was a rarity.

I meant kg wasnt superstar-ish in his first year, and so with starbury and ai.... they were still good, but needed a year to be great :cool:

i think most players nowadays need at least one year or more.... nowitzki and stojakovic needed a year too

anyway,

i think yao's numbers will sky rocket next year....

by the way, the rookie race is a three man race now!! yao-gooden-stoudemire!!! i hope yao wins, but gooden is destroying right now given the minutes! :cool:

by **Boyk** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 3:21 am

and caron butler
man no one ever mentiosn this guy, even though he leads all rookies in points, one of the best in steals out the rookies.
it definatley between stoudemire-ming-butler and maybe gooden

by **Colin** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:30 am

I sincerely hope Yao does not win r.o.y. Considering Amare has helped his team much, much more, Phoenix would be much worse without Amare. Yet Houston wouldn't be too much worse without Yao. The only reason Yao was an allstar was that there were ballots in cantonese and mandarin for the first time. Do you think the people who speak that language are going to vote for the more deserving shaq?

YouTube · by **mp3** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 7:31 am

caron butler will miss out on rookie of the year because of his team record

www.hoopstuff.co.uk

by **MC Hao** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 7:47 am

I sincerely hope Yao does not win r.o.y. Considering Amare has helped his team much, much more, Phoenix would be much worse without Amare.

Whoever makes the playoffs will win ROY...

Yet Houston wouldn't be too much worse without Yao.

Houston wouldn't be where they are right now without Yao.

The only reason Yao was an allstar was that there were ballots in cantonese and mandarin for the first time.

There's no difference in writings between cantonese and mandarin, they only pronounce differently.

Do you think the people who speak that language are going to vote for the more deserving shaq?

Do you think people will vote for somebody who made fun of their language?

by **Drex** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 8:46 am

Quote:
Do you think the people who speak that language are going to vote for the more deserving shaq?

Do you think people will vote for somebody who made fun of their language?

This has been discused before, the All-Star starters are what people want to see, not who deserves it.

by **Colin** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:54 am

something on nba.com wrote:"He's from a small town in China with 16 million people. You can't compete with that."
--O'Neal, on why Yao received more All-Star votes than he did (L.A. Times, Jan. 30, 2003)

This is the point I was trying to make.

by **MC Hao** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 2:01 pm

Shaq made a comment about the Chinese language that caused the people go anti-Shaq, so only very few voted for him. Even though he didn't mean to be racist, the people still didn't like it.

by **Rens** on Fri Mar 07, 2003 11:34 pm

The league is likely to implement a minimum age limit of 20 years starting the 2004 draft so we won't have to boggle ourt heads over this anymore

by **bballer22** on Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:47 am

as far as ROY is, i know it will have NOTHING to do with team pregress, did u forget AI and Marbury??? who ot their team to a better record??? if it will go by team record then Rush will have a very good chance LOL!!

its ROY not Team Roy , it individual performance!!!

YouTube · by **mp3** on Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:18 am

what i meant to say was that because of the other top rookies ( yao, amare) teams are doing well they are more likely to take r.o.y
Miami 20w 40L 0.333

Houston 31w 30L 0.508

Phoenix 33w 28L 0.541

by **Drex** on Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:27 pm

something on nba.com wrote:
"He's from a small town in China with 16 million people. You can't compete with that."
--O'Neal, on why Yao received more All-Star votes than he did (L.A. Times, Jan. 30, 2003)

This is the point I was trying to make.

Hehe, good point, but, how many people of those 16 millions have computers, or internet :?:

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Also, i read somewhere that most of the people who voted for Yao, aren't Chinese, or from Asia.

YouTube · by **mp3** on Sun Mar 09, 2003 10:44 am

The league is likely to implement a minimum age limit of 20 years starting the 2004 draft so we won't have to boggle ourt heads over this anymore

i think this is going ahead.
what does everyone think?
iam all for it

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sun Mar 09, 2003 12:24 pm

It would certainly avoid the problems we've discussed in this thread, but no doubt there would be exceptions made (kind of like Spencer Haywood's declaring early due to financial hardship).

YouTube · by **mp3** on Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:39 pm

yer, maybe they will be a board that they can apeal to in special sircumstamces

by **scubilete** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 12:10 am

but no doubt there would be exceptions made

There should be no exceptions cause if there's any, everyone is going to use the same excuse to get it. If you have survived 18 years, you for sure can do it 2 more years. If you don't want to get to college, sign with the NBLD, that would be a possibility since it's doesn't have to do anything with the draft. Or you can go to Mexico or Puerto Rico, I don't know if Canada has a league there, so they can play still for money. It's just a matter of knowing what to do.

YouTube · by **mp3** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:23 am

If you don't want to get to college, sign with the NBLD

what a good idea!!

send the kids to the NBDL!
they get paid dont they?
then if they are good enough let them sign a 10 day contract with an nba team, and take it from there.

by **Rens** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:42 am

mp3 wrote:then if they are good enough let them sign a 10 day contract with an nba team, and take it from there.

After their 20th birthday ofcourse. But, players would be stupid to do this, they wouldn't get a guaranteed contract from the draft, but unguaranteed offers all around.

by **scubilete** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:57 am

That's the point, if they want some money, they can do that. But if they want a guaranteed contract, they better go to college or to some other league where they can spend those 2 years and then be eligible for the Draft.

I believe is good for the league those to go to College, but if they really need the money like Andrew stated, they will have to do that, not getting any exception from the league.

YouTube · by **mp3** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:20 am

After their 20th birthday ofcourse.

sorry, thats what i meant. when they are 20 :roll:

by **benji** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:47 am

Andrew wrote:Didn't Wilt Chamberlain attend Kansas?

He was drafted out of High School, but decided to go play at Kansas since that was the way you did things back in the day. You went to college, then the NBA.

by **scubilete** on Mon Mar 10, 2003 5:52 am

Something similar happened with David Robinson, who was drafted no. 1 in 87 and he decided to finish his career in the Navy before entering to play in the NBA (89' season).

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