Truth wants A.I.; likes Mo-Pete and Boozer! C's need deal!

[J@3]

Please notice that this is your opinion. Other people might think other things.

What other people? Biased ones like you who can't look behind their blind fanhood to see when something's not right? The only people on the entire planet who would go for those trade offers are Celtics fans.

Jefferson has been injured for a long time, but still he can improve.

So not only is he showing signs of regressing from his rookie season, he also has injury problems. Sign me up for that AI trade now

Wally would be a perfect fit for Chris Webber.

Another one with injury problems. The Sixers would be playing with a 4 man roster.

The Celtics do have the players to get Iverson I think, but in order to receive they'll have to give. Whether that means throwing in 2 or 3 of the young up and coming guys I don't know, but if the 6ers really tried to trade Iverson they'd get far superior offers from other teams.

[8-Hype]

if the 6ers really tried to trade Iverson they'd get far superior offers from other teams.

I don' think so. Maybe the C's would have to give up Green instead of Scalabrine. But as I said, a trade for Iverson wouldn't make much sense (the idea of Franchise and Marbury playing together, as you see, doesn't work at all). The C's have to look out for a PF.

[Mayerhendrix]

It's true that they suffered a disappointing season last year, but this year the team will mesh together well and the high level of stress from the Ron Artest scenario will be gone.

Plus, they didn't do too badly in the playoffs Round 1 when Peja was injured for a lot of games, they can pull off a season w/o him.

[cklitsie]

I don' think so. Maybe the C's would have to give up Green instead of Scalabrine.

Making a trade for Iverson can't be compared with the Baron Davis or Vince Carter trades, cause unlike those guys, Iverson's value is still high. So the idea of giving 3 or 4 players for a superstar won't work here.
The Celtics are pretty much in the same situation as the Sixers, they both have one superstar and a non-fitting supporting cast. Except Boston is younger. There's a huge gap between Pierce and the rest of the Celtics and they'd be foolish to give up Pierce so I don't think Iverson will be traded to Boston.
It'll probably take 2 players on the (talent) level of Bibby/Camby or other guys who just aren't all-stars. And then a young talent added who could turn out to be a nice scorer. That kinda trade would make sense.

But as I said, a trade for Iverson wouldn't make much sense (the idea of Franchise and Marbury playing together, as you see, doesn't work at all).

Maybe that's because Francis and Marbury play the same position and the same style? Did you actually read the article you posted?

“I just think that when great players get with other great players, they make adjustments. And if we were to add that, I think we both would make the adjustments to make it work.”

He's willing to adjust to Iverson were he to come to Boston, unlike Francis and Marbury apparently (even though they didn't play too many game together yet as Marbury was injured towards the end of the season).

[8-Hype]

It's true that they suffered a disappointing season last year, but this year the team will mesh together well and the high level of stress from the Ron Artest scenario will be gone.

Plus, they didn't do too badly in the playoffs Round 1 when Peja was injured for a lot of games, they can pull off a season w/o him.

I am wondering what team your are talking about. The Pacers? How does this fit here?

The Celtics are pretty much in the same situation as the Sixers, they both have one superstar and a non-fitting supporting cast.

Yeah. Both need some player between Superstar and Two-Year-Player.

Maybe that's because Francis and Marbury play the same position and the same style?

Yes. But Pierce an Iverson both take a lot of shots. So somebody would have to make room for the other.

He's willing to adjust to Iverson were he to come to Boston

As I said, that just won't work, just as it did not with C-Webb. Iverson needs a player like KG or JO. You see that Shaq and Wade together is just the real deal!

[8-Hype]

The C's need a Power Forward like Gooden or Boozer, maybe Wilcox.

Randolph would also be great, as the Blazers now are considering trades that would include Randolph. What do you all think? What could be a possible trade in order to land Randolph?

[cklitsie]

Yes. But Pierce an Iverson both take a lot of shots. So somebody would have to make room for the other.

Duh, that's what "adjust" means.

As I said, that just won't work, just as it did not with C-Webb. Iverson needs a player like KG or JO. You see that Shaq and Wade together is just the real deal!

C-Webb and Pierce can't be compared in any way, especially not the C-Webb we've seen with the Sixers and the Paul Pierce of now.
And you're saying Pierce and Iverson won't work because they would need to share the shots, yet a big time player like KG or JO would? Pierce played with Walker, those two took a lot of shots together.

ps. it wasn't a Shaq/Wade duo that won the chip. They're always labeled as a duo because they're the two big names on the team. Miami is just stacked and I think Antoine Walker was the missing link between Shaq/Wade, especially at the end of the year he showed good chemistry and playmaking.

[8-Hype]

And you're saying Pierce and Iverson won't work because they would need to share the shots, yet a big time player like KG or JO would? Pierce played with Walker, those two took a lot of shots together.

Yeah, and the C's made the playoffs. But Pierce scored only 21.6 PPG that season. Of course his points average of 26.8 PPG would decrease with another high calibre player, but they should rather look out for big players than small ones.

[cklitsie]

True, but you'll run into the same problems again, Boston has no good trade value to get a real big man.
The problem isn't playing with a new star on the team, Pierce seems like the kind of guy that'd give up shots, yet contribute in other areas more.
Right now the problem is acquiring that big time player, whether it's Iverson or a low-post guy.

[8-Hype]

True, but you'll run into the same problems again, Boston has no good trade value to get a real big man.
The problem isn't playing with a new star on the team, Pierce seems like the kind of guy that'd give up shots, yet contribute in other areas more.
Right now the problem is acquiring that big time player, whether it's Iverson or a low-post guy.

Exactly. Boston doesn't have anybody, except Wally, as trade value. That's why they should trade more players for a lower amount, as they are in a better position for such a kind of action than a year ago, and fill the space of other teams that are in need of some positions the Celtics would trade away to them. Wally could go in order to make ways for a low post player. And, yeah, Pierce would contribute with more rebounds and assists.

[Its_asdf]

I seriously doubt that Peterson will be moved, unless the Celtics give up one of their young players.

Peterson emerged as one of the more consistent players for the Raptors on both ends of the court while also becoming more vocal, and not mention that he's completely happy as a Raptor and wants to finish his career in Toronto. I really hope that is the case, because Peterson is my favourite Raptor at the moment.

[Indy]

Any Iverson trade for Boston would have to start with either Telfair or Delonte West (most likely west), Gerald Green (100%, he would HAVE to be included) and Al Jefferson. Basically what Boston has to say to have any chance, is that Philly can have any 3 players or so on the team not named Paul.

[maes]

If the Celts are keeping Pierce, they have nothing to trade anymore...at least not to land players on the level of Rashard Lewis & Shawn Marion.

They blew their best trading asset when they gave Minny Ricky Davis. Now they have Wallyworld, a nice shooter but nothing else, for $35 million and locked in for 3 years. Who's going to take that contract?

To get someone like Rashard/Marion Ainge would have to give up *multiple* young contracts like Jefferson+Green, and that would be self-defeating.

EDIT: Telfair is not going to be productive backing up West...i predict Telfair cops a bad attitude if that happens...he sees himself as a star player.

[8-Hype]

Any Iverson trade for Boston would have to start with either Telfair or Delonte West (most likely west), Gerald Green (100%, he would HAVE to be included) and Al Jefferson. Basically what Boston has to say to have any chance, is that Philly can have any 3 players or so on the team not named Paul.

Basically, the only real players on the Celtics' roster are Pierce and Wally. The best thing would be giving up any player except those two. And amazing signature, Indy!

[Mentally Hilarious]

There's a huge gap between Pierce and the rest of the Celtics

Pierce is 28. That's not a huge gap, at all.

He's older, but still has a window of 5-7 years unless and injury happens.

[cklitsie]

Pierce is 28. That's not a huge gap, at all.

You're right, but I meant talent-wise. I'm very high on Paul Pierce.

And amazing signature, Indy!

Guess who made it punk *ss, 100%..

[8-Hype]

Pierce, I think, could/would play another 8 years for sure. He just needs a feeling of success. With another star player he seriously would achieve that.

And amazing signature, Indy!

Guess who made it punk *ss, 100%..

Great. I like it. I love it.

[peaches]

I was about to say that CK but I firgured I should stop being an ass.

[BlueHornet]

that trade with iverson and steven hunter wouldnt be bad because Steven is a young center for when all the old ass centers on there team get older, he could take over, just what would they do with west and telfair. Losing both jefferson and tony allen would be trouble tough. They wouldnt have much depth at pf or sg unless they put telfair or west at sg or iverson there. They also have gerald green, they should pursue a good pf after or if the traide happens. possible a west or telfair trade.

[ThaLiveKing]

That is possibly the worst Jermaine trade idea I have ever seen. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I know. . .LMAO.

[Jackal]

I hope Jae gets in a really foul mood. Reading your posts makes my brain have epileptic episodes. Especially with all the "fancy" bolding. You're like Lanky Man & *Sensation* combined.

[jerry]

the celtics will never get mo pete...never!

on-topic now:

i dont wanna be mean, but the trades arent realistic. but i understand one was written by some guy so whatever... anyways there are lots of PFs in this league, although im not sure any team would give up a valuable big man for some crap guys...

[8-Hype]

I hope Jae gets in a really foul mood. Reading your posts makes my brain have epileptic episodes. Especially with all the "fancy" bolding. You're like Lanky Man & *Sensation* combined.

Now what does that have to do with this topic? If I said something like that, I would get punished.

[cklitsie]

He finally gets it!

[8-Hype]

Who finally gets what?

And what do you guys think about Randolph/Boozer/Marion/Lewis in Boston. Not all together, of course.