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Postby hipn on Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:23 pm

Riot, it's time to become a Raptors fan :lol:
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Postby Jugs on Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:28 pm

The T-Wolves can't rebuild with Hudson, Madsen, Hassel, Jaric and Blount with long term contracts. They could always trade Hudson and Jaric to New York for Jalen Rose :lol: .
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Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:35 pm

It looks like Minny's run out of luck in the draft too... It looks to me that ATL will draft the best fit for them (in my opinion) in Brandon Roy. so they will have to settle for someone like Randy Foye. maybe Rudy Gay will drop to the 6th spot...
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Postby Riot on Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:47 pm

Well I want the Wolves to take Foye or Roy.
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Postby Thrash13 on Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am

At first, I didn't want the Wolves to take Foye, but after watching the NBA Draft special last night on ESPN, I think he is the guy that fits the team the best. I'm actually hoping he slips to #6 now. If not, I would settle for Rudy Gay or Brandon Roy. Any of those three guys will help immediately.

And you didn't mention Igor Rakosevic (no clue on spelling of last name). That guy was a bust as well, even if he was our only pick of the 2000 NBA Draft. I was ticked that they passed over guys like Chris Porter, etc. to take Igor. Then again, none of those other guys did anything with their careers either.
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Postby air gordon on Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:03 am

Riot wrote:If Kevin McHale and Glen Taylor trade Garnett then they will be forced to go too (in many people's opinions). The team has too many long term deals and already owes too many teams a first round pick, rebuilding would take years and years to do. You have one of the best players in the league in his prime...you should be able to reload around him. Garnett is committed to the team rebuilding around him and so is the team.

It only takes one or two moves to really sky-rocket a team into the postseason and into contention, especially when you have a guy like Garnett already on your roster. Casey will be better because he has one year under his belt and they added some more veterans to his coaching staff (Wittman is one of them).

As long as Garnett wants to stay here to make it work the team will stick with him. This team can and will get back to being a force in the Western Conference with Garnett. You can't trade the face of your franchise. Garnett is all the Timberwolves have and have ever had. Before Garnett there was Pooh Richardson and that is really it. He means too much to the franchise and to the city to deal him in his prime.

this is all just more false hope.

lol the season hasn't even started and they are already handicapped with Mccants injury.

it's easy to say they can reload and become an instant contender with a snap of a finger. but saying it and doing it are 2 entirely different things

to quote the famous Ric Pitino line- "Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert Parish is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they're going to be gray and old."

speaking of the Celtics, they are a fine example of holding on to it's star players too long.


but hey, keep on dreaming. i really enjoy reading this Cubs-like attitude posts. the Cubs and their fans are losers since 1908. you guys can be the Cubs of the north. they'll probably let you adopt their motto of "Maybe next year"
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Postby Yessie on Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:10 am

Lucky T-wolves got Brandon Roy
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Postby Riot on Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:59 am

air gordon wrote:it's easy to say they can reload and become an instant contender with a snap of a finger. but saying it and doing it are 2 entirely different things


I believe McHale got Sam Cassell, Latrell Sprewell, Fred Hoiberg, Ervin Johnson and Trenton Hassell all in one off-season. Moves that turned the team from a playoff team to a title contender. I believe the team gave up Joe Smith, Anthony Peeler, Marc Jackson and a retiring Terrell Brandon to get that done. It can happen.
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Postby Jugs on Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:06 am

Yessie wrote:Lucky T-wolves got Brandon Roy


Too bad he's a Blazers now :proud:
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Postby Riot on Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:15 am

I am happy with either Foye or Roy. I think they are both the best players in the draft.
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Postby Matthew on Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:04 pm

Riot wrote:
air gordon wrote:it's easy to say they can reload and become an instant contender with a snap of a finger. but saying it and doing it are 2 entirely different things


I believe McHale got Sam Cassell, Latrell Sprewell, Fred Hoiberg, Ervin Johnson and Trenton Hassell all in one off-season. Moves that turned the team from a playoff team to a title contender. I believe the team gave up Joe Smith, Anthony Peeler, Marc Jackson and a retiring Terrell Brandon to get that done. It can happen.


And the twolves are still rebuilding after that, and havent been back to the playoffs since that limp to the conference finals.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:37 am

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so now riot believes in Mchale?! :crazy:

lol yeh anything can happen. i should quit my job because i can win the lotto
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Postby Riot on Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:45 am

We made the playoffs eight straight years with very little assests to get better, no? McHale is great at finding "diamond in the rough" players. He has done it with many players.
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:20 am

Yeah Marko Jaric and Olowokandi are grear "diamond in the rough" players.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:33 am

lol ok riot. how many first round exits there buddy? how many years in a row not making the playoffs? or how about trumping his best move, acquiring Sam Cassell, but only to trade him away the next year, and by doing so giving another terrible, long term contract to a player like Jaric. do i really need to dig up your quotes ripping mchale so bad you think he should be fired and that Garnett should be GM?

and now you're trying to convince us with your newly found faith in Mchale transforming a lottery team immediately into a contender. man the kool aid tastes good, doesn't it?

not only are you on the kool-aid, you're a hypocrite (N)
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Postby Riot on Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:20 am

Should McHale be fired? After this long of a career he probably should have been because he hasn't gotten it done. However, I do have faith in him to make the moves to get us back into the playoffs. With a guy like Kevin Garnett it doesn't take much moving around to get into the postseason.

The Wolves had to trade Sam Cassell. He and the owner got into a war of words through the media and after every home game he would go into the visiting teams locker room and say he wishes he would be traded to that team (source Chad Hartman KFAN radio and Doogie KFAN radio). As much as I love Sammy he just couldn't stay here. The Wolves were prepared to use the amensty cut on him until the Clippers offered Jaric for him and a first.

Is McHale the best GM? Absoutely not. Do I have faith that he will make the right moves this year? I think he is under a lot of pressure to get the job done and done right. I think he can do it.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:35 pm

k so now you're backing off your comments about being contenders lol

1st round exitst are meaningless and are only setting the franchise back more/wasting Garnett's talent.

you think.. you have faith.. all false hope. Mchale has had Garnett for so many years and only ONCE he's gotten past the 1st round... yet this same guy who should be fired is going to lead them to the Larry O'brien trophy

your argument has no legs to stand on.

but hey- you win. denial is a powerful tool.
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Postby Riot on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:40 pm

air gordon wrote:k so now you're backing off your comments about being contenders lol

1st round exitst are meaningless and are only setting the franchise back more/wasting Garnett's talent.

you think.. you have faith.. all false hope. Mchale has had Garnett for so many years and only ONCE he's gotten past the 1st round... yet this same guy who should be fired is going to lead them to the Larry O'brien trophy

your argument has no legs to stand on.

but hey- you win. denial is a powerful tool.


Ok, Judge Air Gordon.
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Postby Unrestrict3D on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:47 pm

Am I the only who feels like reading a post from Riot is like reading a chapter from a book? They're like a mile long - he needs personal assistant to sum up his posts so I don't have to read through one topic in an entire hour. I really like reading them but sometimes I'm turned away from reading because there is just too much to read.

About the Wolves, bad news once again. Is KG going to stay? I'm not completely sold on him going elsewhere but after all the crazyness that the draft was with all the trades and such, who knows what will happen before next season starts.
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Postby Riot on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:49 pm

Most my posts are like a paragraph long.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:54 pm

Riot wrote:
air gordon wrote:k so now you're backing off your comments about being contenders lol

1st round exitst are meaningless and are only setting the franchise back more/wasting Garnett's talent.

you think.. you have faith.. all false hope. Mchale has had Garnett for so many years and only ONCE he's gotten past the 1st round... yet this same guy who should be fired is going to lead them to the Larry O'brien trophy

your argument has no legs to stand on.

but hey- you win. denial is a powerful tool.


Ok, Judge Air Gordon.

not a surprise you dodged my points and just made another piss poor reply
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Postby JohnA20 on Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:41 pm

Damnit, I am really unhappy that McCants has gone down, suppose it's another lottery pick for Minnesota next season. Unless something spectacular happens in the off-season.
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Postby air gordon on Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:21 am

an entry from Chad ford's chat:
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Jason (Homer Glen, IL): Loul Deng, Ben Gordon, and Bulls first round pick next year (the one from the Knicks) for KG? Why wouldnt Mchale do this, they are not going anywhere in the next two years in the West.

SportsNation Chad Ford: I think the Bulls went back one more time and offered Tyson Chandler, Luol Deng and the draft rights to Tyrus Thomas for KG and were rebuffed by the Wolves. I think it's a huge mistake for Kevin McHale. The Wolves aren't and won't be in contention next year and sooner or later, KG's going to demand a trade. When he does, the Wolves won't be able to get an offer like the one the Bulls gave them. A combo of Chandler, Thomas and Deng plus their first round pick Randy Foye would've given the Wolves one of the best young cores in the NBA. As it stands now? I think they'll be in the same spot as they were last year -- a lottery team.
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