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Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:13 pm

Matthew wrote:Artest could say the sky is blue and people would call him a retard, moron and a nut job. :roll:


But he's not saying anything like that when he makes these remarks. Here he's saying it doesn't matter if he takes a bad shot because he's just like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan. It's not unreasonable to read comments like that and dislike the egotistical nature of them. Confidence is one thing but being arrogant or an egomaniac is another.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:26 pm

The offence needs to run through Bibby and only Bibby, maybe sometimes through Miller but very rarley. Bibby runs the defence very well, he has great passing and shooting skills and can set up plas very well.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:47 pm

The last part made me laugh. "If I take a bad shot, you live with it" :lol:

Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:38 pm

They need a seperate league for this guy, maybe take a page out of the XFL's book.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:43 pm

Ron Artest actually compared himself to Michael Jordan???? how funny :lol:

Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:31 pm

Axel wrote:Gotta agree with Matthew here. Artest is talking about getting other people involved.. no where in the quote did he say the offense should be run through him. Personally I would rather have him running the offense... Bibby just jacks up 3pt shots everytime I watch the Kings.

but overall, Bibby's a lot better at shooting 3s

Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:51 pm

Holy shit, he's not even the best or second best player on his team and he says stuff like this?

Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:53 pm

I would rate him as the best... his competition isnt that great

Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:49 pm

I agree, although you could make a case for Bibby but Ron just slightly edges him.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:57 pm

I still see Bibby as better than him and sometimes Brad Miller as better than him. At least I see them as more important to the team but that's a different story.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:22 pm

Jackal wrote:
I couldn't believe how important physic is in the actual NBA until I saw him and Ben Wallace.

You do know that a physic is a drug/medicine, right?

So Ben Wallace & Ron Artest are the league's medicines? You said it buddy.


Yes, that's what I said :D

What the hell are you talking about? Artest may be a dickhead, but he's not the worst player. And the comparing Ron and Ben is pretty retarded.


I compared their offensive talent, which is almost ZERO.

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:24 am

lol @ I draw the double and triple teams, please, many opposing teams in the league would be happy with Artest taking 20 shots a game, and 6 three's a game with his percentages.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:41 am

Artest isn't a liability on the offensive end, but he certainly isn't going to create shots for other people.

I'd rather let someone like Mike Bibby do that.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:30 am

actually you know what, artest can pretty much says whatever he wants to. without him, the kings this year wouldn't even be anywhere near .500 or the playoffs, period.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:39 am

actually you know what, artest can pretty much says whatever he wants to.


Lol yeah it'll be fantastic for team chemistry.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:10 am

every team has a nutjob, artest happens to be one for the kings. what he said was merely a suggestion, i'm pretty sure adelman took what artest said with a grain of salt. the kings need artest anyways.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:49 am

j.23 wrote:every team has a nutjob, artest happens to be one for the kings. what he said was merely a suggestion, i'm pretty sure adelman took what artest said with a grain of salt. the kings need artest anyways.


Not anymore, they all went to New York.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:13 am

maybe if Ron Artest had been playing the entire season and be in shape, his statements would be more credible. he was the #1 option for the Indiana team a few years back when JO was out with injury and the team did very well

Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:56 pm

But he's not saying anything like that when he makes these remarks. Here he's saying it doesn't matter if he takes a bad shot because he's just like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan. It's not unreasonable to read comments like that and dislike the egotistical nature of them. Confidence is one thing but being arrogant or an egomaniac is another.

You can draw that conclusion to what he said, but is it what he meant? All he said was when MJ, Kobe Duncan take a bad shot, its not broken down and analysised the way he feels it happens with Artest. Sure he has an ego, but is it hurting or helping sacramento? are his comments hurting team chemistry, or are they actually in the playoffs now? you compare where they were before artest, and where they are now, and you cant say he's been a negative.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:17 pm

At the moment, I would have to agree that it's not hurting their chemistry. But how long will that last? His attitude finally hurt the relationship with an organisation that was very loyal to him, standing by him during last year's suspension and doing whatever they could to try and get him back. Like I said before I might be jumping the gun here but there is a precedent.

And even if he's not hurting chemistry, there's nothing unreasonable about disliking a player's comments. Some people probably do go overboard with it and are hating but with most people I think it's simply the fact they don't like boasting especially if the player perhaps shouldn't be so boastful. Maybe it is blown a bit out of porportion but I'd say for most people it's just a passing observation of "Ugh, I wish he'd keep his mouth shut sometimes" rather than a full-on witch hunt.

But, you've gotta give him credit. He certainly knows how to capture everyone's attention.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:32 pm

I'm not too sure how loyal the pacers really were. Sure they could have traded artest when he was suspended, but at a drastically reduced price. His name was always popping up in rumours, and lets look at what he actually said that got him traded (words to the effect of); if its better for them to trade me, then maybe they should. Theres nothing malicious in that whatsoever, and certainly didnt warrent a suspension for over a month. Loyalty.. :crazy:

I have no problem with fans disliking players comments. I just cant stand how the legion of fans are quick to jump on him for doing anything. im actually fairly suprised fans havent criticised him for helping the kings, when he was clearly such a "bad guy/teamate" to the pacers.

I just think he's entitled to almost brag, he's done a great job in sacramento. people adore chris paul for leading the hornets... maybe they should look at what artest has done in sacramento.

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:53 pm

Artest wants the DPOY award

Parts of the article:

Sacramento Kings forward Ron Artest, the NBA's 2003-04 defensive player of the year, likes the intense defense Spurs forward Bruce Bowen plays but doesn't believe Bowen should win the award this season.

"They should just give it to me," Artest said. "Guys are having 40 (point games), and they play against me and don't get nothing. I'm playing some good D."

After asserting his right to the award in a locker-room interview before the game, Artest spoke briefly to Bowen before tipoff and told him they should share the award.

Artest believes he should have been defensive player of the year more than once.

"I feel like Ben Wallace stole it," Artest said of the Detroit Pistons' center who has won the award three times in the past four seasons. "Well, he didn't steal it, but I feel like I gave him three defensive player of the years. I gave him one that year I got in trouble ... that year I was suspended."

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:55 pm

.... no way.

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:44 am

he definetley should be considered for DPOY. he has singlehandedly made the kings a much better defensive team.

Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:44 am

More bragging and focusing on an individual award rather than the team effort. It's starting to become one thing after another. That said, he does have a point. As long as he plays a majority of the season he's always a worthy candidate. But it would be really nice if he learned some humility.
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