Marbury: I'll play my way

by **John WB** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:07 am

zmac|two3 wrote:They are really fucked, thats for sure. Marbury needs to go elsewhere, Francis too. Same with Crawford, Rose and pretty much everyone cept Curry, Frye and Nate.

No, include Curry and Nate's nothing special either.

by **Fresh8** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:24 am

Starbury.. oh no. I wonder where he's going next season. If he can get a ride out of town, that is!

And isn't ironic how Stevie and Starbury combined costs more than the combined pistons starting five?

by **dada** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:26 am

Sit wrote:And isn't ironic how Stevie and Starbury combined costs more than the combined pistons starting five?

Never realized that. If that is the case then that is really sad.

by **Fresh8** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:30 am

Because we know you love your finance-related Knicks trivia ...

Did you know that New York's new backcourt tandem of Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis carries a combined salary of just over $29 million this season?

And did you know that the five salaries in Detroit's starting lineup total $33.7 million?

- there's the truth! very sad! oops, my bad.. they make a lil less than detroit...

by **dada** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:33 am

Ok, so Detroit's starting 5 makes a tad more. Still sad.

by **Matt** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:18 pm

everyone cept Curry, Frye and Nate.

and Nate....

hey at least Marbs gave it a shot....it's late in the season, he probably just wants some wins his way.

by **Yessie** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:10 pm

Mazzlowcchi™ wrote:This is one of the reasons the Knicks suck so bad.

Attitudes like that.

if nothing else has work hell yeah go back to being starbury. :cool:

by **Axel** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:58 pm

Amphatoast wrote:
Axel wrote:I can't stand Marbury... he's so egotistical.. and he cant back it up. Every time he's interviewed he proclaims that he's the best PG in the league... what a crock of shit, he deserves to be on the shittiest team in the league.

not sure if it's ego this time, "starbury" was winning way more than brownbury

He wasn't winning much... he couldn't keep with one team for any length of time.

Larry Brown is just another bad decision made by Isaiah Thomas. Considering the personnel they have, it's impossible to think that they would play under his style of basketball. It just amazes me that he keeps his job... I wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally made bad trades and hirings just for publicity.

by **air2k5** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:07 pm

lol, I used to think that Larry Brown was a good coach. Now I think otherwise. He has failed with Knicks big time, and Detroit is better now than they were with Brown, I think Brown just got lucky by coaching an amaizing squad, that's all.

by **J@3** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:21 pm

air2k5 wrote:lol, I used to think that Larry Brown was a good coach. Now I think otherwise. He has failed with Knicks big time, and Detroit is better now than they were with Brown, I think Brown just got lucky by coaching an amaizing squad, that's all.

you have no idea do you?

by **air2k5** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:35 pm

Jae wrote:
air2k5 wrote:lol, I used to think that Larry Brown was a good coach. Now I think otherwise. He has failed with Knicks big time, and Detroit is better now than they were with Brown, I think Brown just got lucky by coaching an amaizing squad, that's all.

you have no idea do you?

Im just saying, damn how come Knicks are in worse position ever since he came? Isn't Larry the reason Fransis was brought over to NYC? That is a stupid move in my opinion.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:22 pm

Brown's task isn't exactly easy, but I do think he has failed in some areas. Obviously, as a successful coach one wouldn't expect him to completely revamp his coaching methods but he knew the situation going in. Some slight changes in strategy might have helped. Similarly, I still don't like his attitude as far as not caring enough to give his young players the time of day when they actually display some maturity and want to meet privately to discuss things. He doesn't have to cave but he could at least show some courtesy.

But in all fairness, he's in an unenviable situation. He might have made a few mistakes with his approach but I think he's proven throughout his career he is indeed a great coach. He has to accept some of the blame but it's not entirely his fault.

by **Matt** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:52 pm

lol, I used to think that Larry Brown was a good coach. Now I think otherwise. He has failed with Knicks big time, and Detroit is better now than they were with Brown, I think Brown just got lucky by coaching an amaizing squad, that's all.

actually LB helped turn the back court of Billups and Hamilton into better players on both ends of the court.

He was an upgrade over Carlisle.

Still, he has failed with the Knicks.

by **J@3** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:00 pm

I think Brown just got lucky by coaching an amaizing squad, that's all.

Are you under the impression that Detroit was the first champion team Brown has coached? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he the only coach in NBA history to coach an NBA and NCAA championship team? Not to mention the only coach in history to lead 7 different teams to the play-offs.

by **Jugs** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:04 pm

Why is everyone blaming it on Larry? Management fault

by **nacho6543** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:37 pm

its bad enough as a knicks fan having to watch this season after having so much expectations from the off-season. its worse to read about my favorite point guard being out right trashed. what's worse than that? as i'm sitting here typing i hear all night espn radio host jason smith talk about not only how he thinks marbury is overrated, but he'd rather see gerry mcnamara run the knicks. i hope he was kidding. who's fault is this disaster? i can't say for sure, but i think who started it was the previous GM, Scott Layden, he totally fucked our cap. not saying isiah is helping the problem.

as for larry brown? yes some blame goes to him for not coaching an atleast competitive team, but its only been one season with a new team, if the same thing happens next season... then i'll withstand the criticism of brown.

marbury? everyone here has to admit, the guy does have the talent and potential to be the best point guard in the league. billups was a good player before larry brown, and after? he's right there with nash. i believe that brown can do the same for marbury.

as for attitude? well you cant say marbury isnt motivated. obviously he didnt script his return to his home town new york to go this way, but i believe if they start winning and contending for something, i dont think ppl will be so hard on "coney island's finest".
and dont forget about the well documented dysfunctional relationship between brown and iverson, if they made it work, i dont see why brown and marbury cant make it work.

all in all, this season has been depressing, the only hope we have is that brown somehow works his magic again and knicks fan will finally have something to cheer about after a loooong time, but until that day, i guess i'll just hafta endure the pain :cry:

by **axare** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:56 pm

Isiah Thomas stinks, Marbury Stinks, New York Knicks best scenario of salary cap

End of story lol

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:25 pm

dont forget about the well documented dysfunctional relationship between brown and iverson, if they made it work, i dont see why brown and marbury cant make it work.

Iverson and Brown had a go between guy in former Sixers president Pat Croce who was active in settling their disputes. Even with Croce, Iverson was almost traded to Detroit for Stackhouse, fortunately for Sixers fans it didn't happen (thanks to Matt Geiger!). When the Sixers made the Finals, Iverson saw something right in Brown's system while Brown probably loosened Iverson's leash a bit.
In NY, who does Brown and Marbury have as an arbitrator? Isiah? The only time Isiah is active is when he trades away draft picks for headcase players.

EDIT: time to go colorful!

by **Pera** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:13 am

Maybe they should transfer him to the d-league :wink:

Maybe that will teach him a lesson how to play like a PG.

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:10 am

Players who played more than two years in the NBA cannot be transferred to the D-League

by **Pera** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:21 am

Ok,my bad i didn't know that :cry:

by **John WB** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:34 am

LB's problem is that he's not flexible. He can only play one style and damned if you don't fit in.

by **Jeffx** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:50 am

air2k5 wrote:......how come Knicks are in worse position ever since he came? Isn't Larry the reason Fransis was brought over to NYC? That is a stupid move in my opinion.

Because it's a horrible roster full of anti-LB players with no basketball sense. Blame Isiah and Dolan for that. In Detroit, Brown had a team that played hard-nosed 'D', rebounded, and were smart offensively.

Did Brown give Jerome James a $30mil contract? Did he trade a #1 pick for that waste Eddy Curry?

by **Matthew** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:18 am

When it comes to larry brown, he historically has had bad starts to his tenures as coach. remember in philly? his sixers only won 20 somthing games. i dont know why people expected him to make them into a contender overnight.

by **DaTruth36** on Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:50 am

Marybury's a punk, what do you expect from him?

Marbury: I'll play my way

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