Top 10 perimeter defenders?

by **Matt** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:31 am

I wish Indy started Sarunas @ 1...that'd be a dream for all Pistons fans.

by **air gordon** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:34 am

Matt wrote:
Delonte West

i think he's one of the worst defenders, especially after the way Billups, Wade and others repeatedly embarassed him.

Lindsey Hunter is still a good defender!!!

what difference does it make- Billups & Wade routinely embarass most of their oppostion.

even when Gary Payton is 6 feet under, Gloveguy will still be placing him on the league's current best defenders list :lame:

by **Indy** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:34 am

Matt wrote:I wish Indy started Sarunas @ 1...that'd be a dream for all Pistons fans.

Yeah, I know you guys want us to get rid of Tinsley, but lemme tell you, Sarunas is a better backup PG then any backup PG you guys will EVER get! At least we've got that on you...

by **Riot** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:39 am

Larry Hughes is overrated, in my opinion. I'd rather have Greg Buckner than him. Even though I hate the Denver Thuggets I love Greg Buckner. I think he is great. He is all that and a bag of chips.

by **air gordon** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:47 am

hughes is overrated because he shouldn't have been named to the 1st team nba all defensive team

but he's still a better defender then buckner despite your man crush on him

by **Doobie** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:08 pm

Trevor Ariza :mrgreen:

by **Riot** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:11 pm

Hughes gambles and gets into the passing lanes, similar to guys like Lebron, Wade and Iverson. But I'd rather have a guy like Greg Buckner or Trenton Hassell who can be isolated on the wing with a guy like Kobe, Tmac or Lebron and force that player into a tough shot. There is no such thing as an easy basket with those guys on it. That's kind of defender I like.

by **maes** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:24 pm

I was impressed by Pietrus & Josh Smith last year.

Maybe i was overly scarred when he defended a 3 on 1 Bulls fast break and blocked Nocioni's dunk so cleanly Nocioni was hanging on the rim wondering where the ball went.

by **gifted** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:07 pm

Its_asdf wrote:After seeing what AI did to him, I'd replace him in that spot with James Posey.

If you actually watched the game, they replayed it and showed that AI stepped on his shoe.

I agree with Riot for the most part, except i'd slot Eddie Jones in the last slot instead of Patterson.

1) Ron Artest
2) Bruce Bowen
3) Trenton Hassell
4) Tayshaun Prince
5) Shane Battier
6) Greg Buckner
7) Jacque Vaughn
8) Kobe Bryant
9) Andre Igoudala
10) Eddie Jones

by **hipn** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:45 pm

Arujo... mad defender.... lol jks.

I dunno... but a good defender is Bruce Bowen

by **GloveGuy** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:11 pm

air gordon wrote:even when Gary Payton is 6 feet under, Gloveguy will still be placing him on the league's current best defenders list

That's right. The guy's smart as hell. Plus, respect of the referee is often overlooked and Payton definitely has that.

He also shut down Reggie Miller in last year's playoffs.

by **Matt** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:09 pm

um, Reggie Miller didn't need shutting down.

what difference does it make- Billups & Wade routinely embarass most of their oppostion.

true, however theres guys out there that make them earn their points, West isn't one of those.

Yeah, I know you guys want us to get rid of Tinsley, but lemme tell you, Sarunas is a better backup PG then any backup PG you guys will EVER get! At least we've got that on you...

Too bad he can't play D

I'm fine with L Hunter at the PG spot, and Carlos Arroyo doesn't scare me that much this season.

by **Laxation** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:19 pm

i would put AI2 higher up

im not too sure where, as I dont know about the other guys, but he is an awesome defender, better than prince anyway

by **cklitsie** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:23 pm

giftedvisionz wrote:
Its_asdf wrote:After seeing what AI did to him, I'd replace him in that spot with James Posey.

If you actually watched the game, they replayed it and showed that AI stepped on his shoe.

I was going to say the same thing. Check the clip of AI 'crossing' him up again and you'll see how he forced Iverson from the 3pt-line back to almost halfcourt, making AI look like a mediocre dribbler.. then that crossover-thing happened.

by **Its_asdf** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:01 pm

If you actually watched the game, they replayed it and showed that AI stepped on his shoe.

I just wanted to add Posey in there because I'm biased and I don't know shit about Vaughn. :oops:

by **Indy** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:37 pm

Laxation wrote:i would put AI2 higher up

im not too sure where, as I dont know about the other guys, but he is an awesome defender, better than prince anyway

This idiocy coming from a Pistons fan??

There is no doubt that Prince is a better defender then Iggy AT THIS POINT.

by **Cloudy** on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:46 pm

Bowen
Artest
Bryant
Prince
Marion
Payton
Battier
Hassell
Hughes

by **Wayne** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:42 am

it's almost the same...

-Bruce Bowen
-Trenton Hassel
-Ron Artest
-Tracy Mcgrady
-Kobe Bryant
-Shawn Marion
-Tayshaun Prince
-Allen Iverson
-Eddie Jones
-Andre Iguodala

by **GloveGuy** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:50 am

um, Reggie Miller didn't need shutting down.

Check the stats. Before Game 4, when they put Payton on him, he had just dropped 33 and 28 point games on the Celtics. He didn't score more than 12 points the rest of the series.

by **3th** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:46 am

Melo

by **air gordon** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:02 am

Riot wrote:Hughes gambles and gets into the passing lanes, similar to guys like Lebron, Wade and Iverson. But I'd rather have a guy like Greg Buckner or Trenton Hassell who can be isolated on the wing with a guy like Kobe, Tmac or Lebron and force that player into a tough shot. There is no such thing as an easy basket with those guys on it. That's kind of defender I like.

hughes gambles for steals but not every single time. his quick hands/long arms make him a tough, on ball defender. btw- iverson's defensive PER is amongst the best at is position

buckner plays decent defense but it's overrated since that is his only strength. he's labeled a defensive specialist yet he's not spectacular at it. it's false advertising

your man crush on him doesn't make him a better defender

GloveGuy wrote:That's right. The guy's smart as hell. Plus, respect of the referee is often overlooked and Payton definitely has that.

lol wtf so you're agreeing with me that if Gary Payton was dead, you'd be still be naming on the league's current best defenders list :lame:

smarts, craftiness, breaks from the refs are irrelevant if you're not alive :lol:

glove- you seldom post here anymore but you sure let it be known when you do post that you are in a fantasy world when it comes to Gary Payton

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:37 am

Amazingly, Riot's list is the best so far :lol:

Have to agree with he's out of the lists posted. Even though I wouldn't exactly put it in the same order.

by **Riot** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:41 am

Greg Buckner is a great defender, that dude has some skills. And he isn't an offensive threat but he has some range and he can hit the open jumper. He's very similar to one of my favorite players, Trenton Hassell.

by **KingLeBron** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:45 am

Ron Artest
Kobe Bryant
Bruce Bowen
Andrie Kerilinko
Andre Igudala
Allen Iverson
Tashan Prince
Ruben Paterson
Garry Payton
Eddie Jones
in no order

by **Laxation** on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:50 am

Indy wrote:
Laxation wrote:i would put AI2 higher up

im not too sure where, as I dont know about the other guys, but he is an awesome defender, better than prince anyway

This idiocy coming from a Pistons fan??

There is no doubt that Prince is a better defender then Iggy AT THIS POINT.

im allowed my opinion...

just because i go for the pistons it doesnt mean i have to say all players are the best defeenders in the league

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