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Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:31 pm
shachaf wrote:It's just a matter of time until teams from europe will play at NBA.
Do you know about european basketball?
Have you seen Maccabi Tel Aviv( The european champs, back- to-back titels)?
Do you know Anthoney Parker and Sarunas Jasikevicius?
If there be a european verison of NBA live, will you buy it?
Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:33 pm
shachaf wrote:So you don't know nothing about european basketball?
Even after the olympics?
Oh.. Olympics was good...
Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:41 pm
shachaf wrote:It's just a matter of time until teams from europe will play at NBA.
Do you know about european basketball?
Have you seen Maccabi Tel Aviv( The european champs, back- to-back titels)?
Do you know Anthoney Parker and Sarunas Jasikevicius?
If there be a european verison of NBA live, will you buy it?
he was in the NBA before
no one wanted him anymore so he went to Europe
Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:26 pm
I could see an NBA Team in Mexico, seriously.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:34 pm
MaD_hAND1e wrote:shachaf wrote:MaD_hAND1e wrote:Don't know, don't care
If I'm supposed to know about it, it would be constantly marketed to me.
O... and btw, it's pretty sad that a guy like Anthony Parker, is one of the best in the Euroleague, considering that he used to play in the NBA and wasn't much of a star.
Anthoney Parker could start in almost every nba team if he wanted. I hope that the spurs will meet maccabi so that you can see that manou ginobili and parker are almost at the same level.
You still don't know nothing about Jasikevicius?
1997/98 76ers GP 37 ppg 1.9 FG16/35
1999/00 Orlando GP 16 ppg 3.6 FG23/43
Dude... if this guy can put up big numbers in Euroleague, Wade or T-Mac or Duncan could break Wilt's record for points scored on any given night.
And no, I still don't know, and don't want to know anything about some guy whose name I can't even pronounce and isn't in the NBA, when he does make it to the NBA, I'll learn to pronounce his name.
Parker was injured, But that's not the point. We aren't talking about how NBA superstars would manage on europe.
If parker's avrages can't help you understand what player he is
now i suggest we go over to the pictures:
The last one is a winning- turn around- bazzer bitter shot aginst CSKA moscow.
about Jasikevicius, I think you should show more respact to the player who beated the dream team in the olympics last summer, and also the best playmayker in europe...
Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:09 pm
Like I said before, the Euroleague isn't marketed enough to me or to anyone else outside Europe for that matter, so I'm not supposed to know about it. And I can tell jack from a pic...
Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:59 pm
The NBA TV chanel brodcastes one euroleauge game once a week, including the final four.
The marketing of the euroleague is awful, that's true, and it's the total opposite from NBA marketing. If you never saw an NBA game you should think that all is dunks and ally-hoops, and because of that the rating of the real basketball, The final, Spurs- Detroit, Who also play defanse, Is low.
If the euroleague had the same marketing, I don't think that there was one here who wouldn't know the name of Sarunas Jasikevicius.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:19 pm
I'd love to see what Anthony Parker could do in NBA now. It would be an excellent way to check the level between Europe and NBA. Don't forget Parker joined Europe because he didn't have any playing time in NBA
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:17 pm
Lol@posting pictures to prove a point...
This is Pero Cameron. He is the greatest player in the history of the World. This is him shooting his 500th point of that game. Argue with the picture if you don't believe me.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:48 pm
I agree with Jae....a picture says a thousands words....Pero Cameron is greatest player in the world....just don't ask him to jump over a couple of yellow pages stacked on top of each other....and don't forget the great Phil Jones, he has to rank up there in the Top 5 in the world....
as for Anthony Parker, from what I've heard his game has developed and improved quite a bit since he left the States and that he could come back and play for almost any NBA team as a good 7th or 8th man....
Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:14 pm
i have no probleme to give you a video clip.
if it won't prove you who good is parker now, i don't know what...
Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:43 pm
How about actually being able to see more than a few 5 second highlights. We'd have to watch 5 or so games to just get an idea about how good he is, you're not going to convince anyone with highlight clips or pictures. Just accept the fact that other people might not agree and move on.
Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:53 pm
LMAO @ Burger King ad on Pero's shirt
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:13 am
so, please:
http://www.tzahevet.co.il/cmdb/video/th ... parker.avi
Don't listen to the hebrew( You don't understand it)
enjoy yourself!
Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:28 am
Does that mean there's gonna be a Nba Europe Live game for PC and the other consoles to be coming out pretty soon?
Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:36 pm
I think you should show more respact to the player who beated the dream team
Calling the most recent USA team the "Dream Team" is just plain wrong.
Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:32 pm
I don't think that a team with dwyane wade, tim duncan, amare stoudmaire, lebron james and allen iverson is so bad...
Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:39 pm
It is when they only just scrape into the medals and get beaten by someone like Puerto Rico. A team of champions isn't necessarily a championship team.
Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:22 am
Jae wrote:It is when they only just scrape into the medals and get beaten by someone like Puerto Rico. A team of champions isn't necessarily a championship team.
It would be a championship team if the team practiced together, more than two weeks before the competition, but this is coming from the arrogance of the americans, who think that the european basketball
is amateur.
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:47 pm
shachaf wrote:I don't think that a team with dwyane wade, tim duncan, amare stoudmaire, lebron james and allen iverson is so bad...
It's not bad, but it's nowhere near the level of the original Dream Teams.
Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:01 pm
MaD_hAND1e wrote:Like I said before, the Euroleague isn't marketed enough to me or to anyone else outside Europe for that matter, so I'm not supposed to know about it. And I can tell jack from a pic...
I agree with you even though I ironically live in Europe,I still prefer the NBA.
Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:27 pm
This is the 2nd best SG in the history of the NBA, behind Michael Jordan: Darrick "MVP" Martin. In this scene, he is about to strip Kobe for his 10th steal of the game. He's gonna break away on the fast break for a 1080 degree slam dunk.
Here you see the second part of that play, he's driving to the hold ready to spin 3 times before he dunks it home. Not to mention that steal puts him in a pentruple-double in points, steals, assists, rebounds, blocks
This is proof that Darrick Martin is better than Anthony Parker
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:28 pm
MaD_hAND1e wrote:
shachaf wrote:
MaD_hAND1e wrote:
Don't know, don't care
If I'm supposed to know about it, it would be constantly marketed to me.
O... and btw, it's pretty sad that a guy like Anthony Parker, is one of the best in the Euroleague, considering that he used to play in the NBA and wasn't much of a star.
Anthoney Parker could start in almost every nba team if he wanted. I hope that the spurs will meet maccabi so that you can see that manou ginobili and parker are almost at the same level.
You still don't know nothing about Jasikevicius?
I am very familiar with both the NBA and European basketball. I live in the USA and have quite a few ex teammates/friends who play in Europe. I think that it is not a fair assessment to say that Parker could start for any team in the league. I don't think he could have started for any team other than maybe New Orleans and Charlotte. He is a great European basketball player, but he is nothing more than a back up in the NBA. I have seen him live in Europe, he is good over there but the game is different here. There are plenty of Americans who can't make it in the NBA as a star, who go overseas and become SuperStars. Another player that comes to mind is Marcus Brown. He is one of the top guards in Europe. He could play in the NBA, wouldn't be surprised if CSKA buys out his contract to see him in San Antonio next year (almost happened this year) but he is not going to take Tony Parkers or Ginobili's starting job. The best he would do is compete with Brent Barry for back up minutes. Every team he has tried to lock on with in the league he has been there leading or second leading scorer in the summer league and preseason, but he can make more money overseas so that is where he plays. Parker is a minimum salary player in the US that is why he will never try to get back in the NBA. You say Parker was injured his first go round, so was Dwayne Wade in game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals but he still played like one of the top guards in the WORLD. I admire your love and admiration for Euroleague players, but there is really no comparison between NBA and Euroleague. It is 2 totally different games. Court dimensions are much different. Physical play is grossly different. Speed is different. This is why great American college players are don't make it in the NBA can go overseas and dominate. They shoot well from the college/euroleague 3 pt line but not the much deeper NBA line. They are faster and stronger that most Euroleague players. This is why Anthony Parker has become so good overseas. I am sure his game has improved, but not to the point where he could produce half his Euroleague numbers in the NBA.
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:50 pm
As for Jasekevicius beating the DREAM TEAM, to call that team the dream team is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, that team should have won hands down. They were still by far the most talented team in the Olympics. The problem was most of them are young guys who can only play the new NBA style of one on one may the best athlete win kind of ball. This is why Phoenix is not in the finals and teams like San Antonio and Detroit are. SA and Detroit play the most similar style to Euro teams. It's ironic that there head coaches were the USA olympic coaches and couldn't get the guys to play together. Fact is, if the best 12 Americans played the best 12 players in the rest of the world, the Americans would win, so you put the best 12 USA players on the Olympic team and its a gold medal everytime. The problem is that Americans make so much more than European players that many of them are scared of getting hurt in the olympics. So instead we send our second team or we put a bunch of young talented guys who are not a good fit for international play/rules. Excuses aside, the US deserved to lose, they were a poorly assembled team that was inadequately prepared for International play. Put this team out there and we win every time.
PG Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson
SG Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade
SF Tracy McGrady, Lebron James
PF Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett
C Shaq, Ben Wallace
The final 2 spots could go to any of the following Amare Stoudamire, Vince Carter, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Chauncey Billups, or Mike Bibby
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:52 pm
Any one want to propose a best of the rest of the world team?
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