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Fri May 13, 2005 6:40 am

i would definetly put petrovic in the top 5 foreign players ever to play in the nba. i never pay attention to the olympics so i wont count any of that, but imo petrovic was one of the best foreign born players to ever grace the nba.

note: if we count hakeem i would list him clearly number 1. some might not count him since he became an american citizen.

Fri May 13, 2005 7:01 am

C - Arvydas Sabonis
PF - (H)Akeem Olajuwon
SF - Andrei Kirilenko(defense in the starting unit)
SG - Emanuel Ginobili
PG - Steve Nash

Drazen Petrovic
Rik Smits
Pau Gasol
Toni Kukoc
Dirk Norwitzski
Tony Parker
* I need a point guard here but other than that this is my team from top to bottom.









Drazen Petrovic ( I wondered if anyone would mention him)

It was a thrill to play against Drazen. Every time we competed, he competed with an aggressive attitude. He came at me as hard as I came at him. So, we've had some great battles in the past and unfortunately, they were short battles.

Michael Jordan

Fri May 13, 2005 7:12 am

hmmm... anyone know what Shareef Abdul Rahim's name was before he changed it?

Fri May 13, 2005 9:40 am

Interesting nobody takes Yao Ming?

Fri May 13, 2005 10:45 am

Interesting nobody takes Yao Ming?


he's on shadowgrin's list

Drazen Petrovic ( I wondered if anyone would mention him)


same with him

Fri May 13, 2005 11:20 am

c - olajuwon
pf - duncan (virgin islands, wherever the hell that is)
sf - petrovic
sg - manu
pg - nash

Fri May 13, 2005 11:54 am

C - Hakeem Olajuwon
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Peka Stojakovic
SG - Manu Ginobili
PG - Steve Nash

Yao Ming
Pau Gasol
Ben Gordon
Kirilenko
Nowitzki
Parker
Sabonis

Fri May 13, 2005 12:03 pm

MCo543 wrote:I find something troubling about putting a dead guy on IR...


:lol:

On a similar note, I was playing Season Ticket Basketball and my star player got injured for 76 games. The reason? Severe depression :shock: I should've put him on suicide watch or something, the team was 32-9 at the time so I don't know what he was bothered about.

Fri May 13, 2005 2:33 pm

:lol: Depression?? LMFAO, maybe he had family problems...

Fri May 13, 2005 2:51 pm

Andrew Gaze does not deserve to be mentioned as one of the best foreign players of All-Time. He's not even the greatest Australian basketballer, that title belongs to Luc Longley, who actually had an NBA career. Gaze is the best Australian player in the NBL, well, he was.

yey..

Fri May 13, 2005 5:07 pm

I find something troubling about putting a dead guy on IR...

lol, I was talking about the lineup you posted not his NBA career...after all I heard he was going to be the Euro MJ or something like that

No malice intended in my post. I based my lineup on who I enjoyed watching. IMO, all players in my list are stating 5 material in the NBA and is excellent internationally. I probably have seen a lot of games from the players listed with the exception of Sabonis and Petrovic. Drazen died at a young age while I haven't seen Sabonis in his prime. Sabonis got to my starting 5 because even when he joined the NBA past his prime, he was still pretty good compared to Shawn Bradley, Olowakandi, Foyle, etc.! :)

Casious Clay ( probably not spelled this way ) ---> Mohammed Ali

Cassius? ---> Muhammad Ali :)

can't believe ya'll forgot DETLEF SCHREMPF!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn yea. He had that nice shoe commercial! :D
Also forgot about Sarunas Marciulionis. Played for the Denver Nuggets, GS Warriors, Seattle Sonics, and Sacramento Kings.

Fri May 13, 2005 6:55 pm

LeBron wrote:Andrew Gaze does not deserve to be mentioned as one of the best foreign players of All-Time. He's not even the greatest Australian basketballer, that title belongs to Luc Longley, who actually had an NBA career. Gaze is the best Australian player in the NBL, well, he was.


Are you refering to my list? I stated that it was purely for the Olympics, and I think Andrew Gaze deserves to be on that list.

Fri May 13, 2005 10:11 pm

okay, here's my team....anyone whose played for US (Hakeem, Duncan, etc) doesn't count)....

    Starters:
    C- Sabonis
    PF- Dirk Nowitzki
    SF- Andrei Kirilenko
    SG- Drazen Petrovic
    PG- Steve Nash

    Bench:
    C- Dikembe Mutombo
    PF- Pau Gasol
    SF- Peja Stojakovic
    SG- Manu Ginobili
    PG- Tony Parker
    C- Yao
    SF- Toni Kukoc

    IR:
    C- Zydrunas Ilgauskas/Rik Smits
    SG- Oscar Schmidt
    PG- Sarunas Jasikevicius



probably forgot some, but ahh well....

Fri May 13, 2005 10:25 pm

i should Ho slap ALL YA'LL asses....Toni Kukoc above Schrempf? i think not, Schrempf just happened to be an All-Star

Fri May 13, 2005 10:31 pm

I think some of you are underextemating Jasikevicius as well as Macijauskas as a players... Their maybe not better than Petrovic, but I think they are at a simular level as Stojakovic from what I've seen them play.


Sauru wrote:note: if we count hakeem i would list him clearly number 1. some might not count him since he became an american citizen.
Isn't all players in the NBA USA citizens?

Fri May 13, 2005 11:27 pm

Matt wrote:i should Ho slap ALL YA'LL asses....Toni Kukoc above Schrempf? i think not, Schrempf just happened to be an All-Star

I was gonna put Schrempf in above Kukoc but I've just never liked Det and just couldn't bring myself to put him in :lol:

Sat May 14, 2005 3:42 pm

Isn't all players in the NBA USA citizens?


No, many are residents. They live here, earn money here, but retain their original citizenship.

Sat May 14, 2005 7:53 pm

maes wrote:
Isn't all players in the NBA USA citizens?


No, many are residents. They live here, earn money here, but retain their original citizenship.


wonder if they need work visas :lol:

Sat May 14, 2005 9:42 pm

^probably. they pay taxes to the city their playing for every game

Sun May 15, 2005 1:44 am

C- Arvydas Sabonis
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
SF- Peja Stojakovic
SG - Manu Ginobili
PG - Steve Nash

Bench:
C- Yao Ming
SF- Andrei Kirilenko
SG- Drazen Petrovic
C- Vlade Divac
SF- Detlef Schrempf
C- Pau Gasol
PF- Vladamir Radmanovic

IR:
PG- Tony Parker

I wouldn't count Hakeem, since I don't think he played for any International team, plus he went to an American College.

Same thing with Dikembe Mutumbo and Tim Duncan(plus he played for the US Olympic team).

Sun May 15, 2005 1:15 pm

if you don't count Dikembe for playing college then you couldn't really count Nash as he played at Santa Clara....

Sun May 15, 2005 2:26 pm

Hakeem Olajuwon became a US citizen and represented them at the 1996 Olympics; Duncan's in a similar position having been born in the US Virgin Islands. Mutombo and Nash remain citizens of the Congo and Canada respectively, thus they qualify as international players.

Mon May 16, 2005 7:37 am

I agreed with some of you guys. If Hakeem, Ewing, Mutombo etc etc never played for their country nationally or internationally, then they're not considered international players. Also, if they went to an American college and got naturalized then they're not international players.

Mon May 16, 2005 11:08 am

meaning the best foreign players (in their prime) and put them on a team.
That says foreing players...Duncan always get the "International" tag in the Spurs and NBA webs.

Mon May 16, 2005 11:28 am

beau_boy04 wrote:I agreed with some of you guys. If Hakeem, Ewing, Mutombo etc etc never played for their country nationally or internationally, then they're not considered international players. Also, if they went to an American college and got naturalized then they're not international players.


If they're naturalised and have never represented their home country, you could perhaps argue they're not international players. But guys like Mutombo are still considered international players.
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